Since this is an afterlife knowledge forum, hopefully it is a place where people are free to write about something they have discovered. Especially when they have discovered that a source of information asserts to come from a being such as Christ, when it doesn't.

Alysia,  I don't believe it is appropriate for you to start a thread like this simply because a person speaks honestly about how they feel about something you aren't willing to question. If such a protocol was followed, nobody would be free to question things with honesty. Why is it okay for you to repeatedly refer people to ACIM, but other people can't speak against it when they have found differently than you?

Sometimes people do more harm by not being critical and accepting pretty much anything, than those who choose to use discernment.

We've already been over this ground Recoverer. Go ahead break a leg if you want to speak against any channelled material but one day you may discover it is yourself who does the damage to others.
I stand where I always stand. The Course is the Christ consciousness speaking through Helen's pen. IMHO. and in my heart. I share my heart. It is my path. and say what you want against it, but I would like you to preface your words with "in my opinion."

this way we can respect each other's beliefs. As a matter of fact I would be dead right now and not be here happily telling my truth if it were not A course in Miracles.

I believe in miracles because I am one. thank you for the read.

C'mon guys.  Some of us are at risk of descending into squabbling opposing factions, each intent on forcing their view on each other. Or if they can't manage that on somehow undermining the other.

I don't have a problem with what Alysia posted, it seems to me like she was just drawing our attention to the above and to how the board is supposed to work. And to its guidelines.

There has been a hardening of tone in recent weeks. I've posted on this already but to elaborate.

I'm a very new member but I value the board and would be very disappointed to see it damaged. It  seems to me that it was never intended to be tradition specific - the intention was surely for it to foster respectful, open and constructive discussion of 'non-ordinary' experience from all.

It seems to me too that if we can't as a bunch of supposedly 'spiritual' people find it in ourselves to behave in accordance with this ethos and spirit that we have some serious soul searching to do. That if we can't get our act together we most certainly have no right to post/preach to others from any perspective whatsoever.

It's not for me to make any such call, but surely it's not acceptable for us to post in rude and dismissive but unsubstantiated terms on the views of others. It is 100% OK to do our best to explain why we may not agree with certain views.

It's not OK to use the board as a platform to proselytise from with a closed mind while refusing for whatever reason to justify your position or engage in constructive debate - if that's what we want then we should buzz off and set up our own board. It is 100% OK to explain perspectives personally held or taught by other traditions  - even if these do not agree with the views of others. But if you post be prepared to debate.

It's not OK to operate as a part of a faction supporting a particular view and seeking to put down the opposition. It is 100% ok for a concensus to naturally and based on reason and intuition develop to  favour of one view or another - provided there is no 'putting down' of the minority view, or seeking to make the majority view some sort of accepted dogma.

A Buddhist thought: 'the highest truth is rarely found in the common view'  - or words to that effect.

Blind beliefs have little place on this forum. Meaning that if you find your values being questioned  (provided reasonably as above) unpleasant or upsetting and can't see your way to engaging in such debate then it's probably best to withdraw.

It's finally probably best to remember that the board seems to be about sharing and discussing experience rather than theology or intellectual debate. That if it comes to it one option might ultimately be to shut down all threads that are not based on this.

Finally to say some things about my own postings. I can sometimes be a little direct on topics, and if I've upset anybody please accept my apologies. Feel free to PM me if I'm heading in that direction and you wish to warn me off. Feel free too to say so and why if you feel I've been posting too much that's theoretical or tradition teaching based and not experiential enough.

For what it's worth I'll if needed simply stop posting stuff that causes agitation even if it seems reasonable to me as there's no benefit for anybody in driving people into defensive positions - it only closes us  down - makes us cling more firmly to beliefs. But I'd also ask that people try to remain open - there's lots that can sound wrong if it's viewed from a particular perspective, but which in the bigger makes perfect sense. I tried to flesh the logic behind this idea out in my reply no. 11. in the thread 'Article about ACIM'.

I should perhaps say that I've no connection with those running the site, and apart from Bruce have no idea even of who they are.

Anyway. That's my say. Over to the gallery......

ian

thanks Ian for your ability to leaven the whole. its quite an appreciated trait.

I have been on a few 'Spiritual/Enlightened' forums in the last year. I am pretty new here on this one.

One thing I have noticed (and maybe it is because I am new at this and maybe I am a bit more objective and maybe I am just too cool for school....err...forget the last part.)

It makes me think that there is a spiritual clash (lack of a better term) going on through out the world at this place and time.  I 'think' things are coming to a head.  

Here is a video that helps me explain what I am talking about(it is short too): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxWZc1cRLnA&mode=related&search=

Adyashanti "A Biological Necessity" is the name of it. Really hits home with me anyways.  I 'like' this man and see no agenda coming from him other then love for all mankind.  I do not say that lightly about anyone.

This forum so far to me anyways is one of (if not thee) best one I have been on...
I too would like to see it grow.  I tell myself everyday now to 'check' my ego.  It is a hard task.  Ego's are hungry all the time. They always want to be fed.  I try to 'see' myself as others see me and most of the time I do not like what I see. I am hot tempered and quick to go into action. To sit down and write out my thoughts actually helps me think more clearly.  

However, I seriously think that the 'pot' called the planet Earth is stirring like it hasn't in a long time.  Things are set in motion now and people are reacting to it. Some good, some not so good.  

I hope I am making sense....it is still early.

Eckhardt T is one of my favourites, another modern guy that realised spontaneous enlightenment. He puts stuff in very understandable common sense terms.

Just about to start into his new book 'A New Earth' which seems to be about the new consciousness...

Eckhardt is a German, and was a serious academic Alysia, so i suppose it's inevitable that his style can be a little 'methodical'...