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Oct 30th, 2007 at 10:07am
 
I have been on a quest as of late to read and view as much as I can on this subject.

I firmly believe we are being totally LIED to about out Universe.

This thread is about what 'proof' we can all share to the reality of what is really going on.

Here are some links that will get it started.  I will admit that these testimonies will shock some of you.
It has totally changed my outlook on what is really going on....anymore!

LINK: http://www.projectcamelot.org/bill_holden.html
This is a man's named Bill Holden.  Very likeable.  I get a positive feeling from him.
The kind of person I would feel totally at home sharing a cup of coffee with and having a chat...

LINK: http://www.projectcamelot.org/jim_sparks.html
This man's name is Jim Sparks.  He has been abducted hundreds of times. Fantastic story to tell all of us.

LINK: http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch.html
This man's name is Dan Burisch. This is a total 'eye-opening' experience for all of us.
Here is his Biography: http://www.projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_summary.html
The top set of videos is from July 2007.  The bottom set of videos is from July 2006.
I suggest using the Windows Media link.  For some 'reason' Google has deleted some of this websites videos.  Hmmm...I wonder why?
They are not illegal in any way shape or form.
This is Dan's blog: http://www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=mongrel&action=displa...

Just amazing things here.  Spirituality is at the very core of it all.    

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Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2007 at 12:51pm
 
thanks Dood, may I say I continue to enjoy your image  Smiley
thanks for posting. I lived in Roswell NM a few years, just for fun, here's a picture of a road..down the road about 30 miles is the crash site of 1947. it's a military town then and now, coincidental? Immediately there was a rush by military officials to discredit and mislead the public what had actually crashed there.
we have museums and a metal was found which was a type of metal that bends itself back into shape when bended, something we do not manufacture, at the time, not sure if we do now.
these pieces of metal were of course tracked down by the gov and taken away to be studied and because they didn't want the people to know the truth.
Authors, original participants, a number of the children witness to the fathers agitated state on that momentous occassion later wrote books and still live in the town.
Fascinating it was to learn what I could while I was there.

It is connected to spirituality definetely.

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Reply #2 - Nov 5th, 2007 at 7:34pm
 
Thank you for the reply and the compliment.  I do like that Avatar.  It 'sez it best'....for me anyways. Cheesy

Here is a link about the 'metals': http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=34c_1180662845

Thankfully some people still have a few of these samples....

Here are some UFO videos...

Spaceshuttle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA

Phoenix, AZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FhKcV38SoM

I firmly believe 'we' have had contact and these ETs have been working with our governments over the years.  Our governments do not want disclosure.
I do not think they will have a choice.  My 'guess' is that there will be full public disclosure in the next few years. Disclosure on the ET's part...not our governments.

I also believe that our DNA has be altered over the centuries...even 'ages'.  Probably since around 50,000 BCE.  
I also believe 'we' have been 'back engineering' technology since the 1940s.  Look how we advanced since the late 1940s in just about everything.
We are not that 'smart'.  We had 'help'.  

We also have had 'peeks' into our futures.  Meaning the Looking Glass Device...
Link: http://www.projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html
And more info here: http://www.astrosciences.info/Aquarius.htm

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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2007 at 2:35am
 
Hi Dood, did u read a few books on alien abduction where the woman had alien sperm injected..the baby does not go full term, but she is abducted again and the fetus is taken unto the ship, put in tech uterus to go to term and it's half and half hybrid.

then later the mother is taken on board because it's half human it needs mother love, something they need (this particular race) to learn how its done.
was kind of a sad experience she didn't want to leave the baby naturally. but this is one way of mixing our dna with theirs.
sorry to shock anybody. these are my beliefs that this happens, however, I have also made to understand before incarnation abductees enter into an agreement for this with them; because there is free will, then they forget they entered the agreement on soul level.

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Reply #4 - Nov 18th, 2007 at 8:16am
 
Well, I have become a full believer in what you are speaking about Alysia.

Here is a link of a man I recently learn about: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htm

He is dead now...or better put, passed on.  He passed on in 1996 and the story is he was 'helped' in that regard against his will.

The YouTube video at the beginning is pretty shocking. He tells you pretty early on to not only put on your specticals and study but, also put on your 'Skepticals'.  Then he says for US to do our homework and not take what he says as face value.
He is not a great speaker and he states that at some point in the video too. The video quality is old (1995) and it gets out of sync audio wise but you can hear him well.  It is the people at the end of it asking questions that you cannot hear.

I find him hard NOT to believe after watching that.
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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 11:24pm
 
thanks, i've been listening to jim sparks.  i already believed in aliens 100% but now i'm learning more.
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Reply #6 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 11:27pm
 
Old Dood wrote on Nov 18th, 2007 at 8:16am:
The YouTube video at the beginning is pretty shocking..


13 attempts on his life in 1 year?  oh.  my.  god.  life is so scary.
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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2007 at 1:01pm
 
http://www.enterprisemission.com/datashead.htm

Very interesting on the Apollo 17 Mission....

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Reply #8 - Dec 8th, 2007 at 10:57am
 
A very interesting Forum: http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi

It is called the Open Minds Forum.
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Reply #9 - Dec 15th, 2007 at 9:42pm
 
A Video Short named: Have you seen a UFO?

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Jyot6NsfA

"Mission control, Please be informed, there is a Santa Clause..."
NASA Astronaut James Lovell flying with Frank Borman and William
Anders, emerging from the dark side of the moon during their historic
first circumlunar mission, Apollo-8, in December of 1968.
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Reply #10 - Dec 29th, 2007 at 11:52pm
 
Recent Video from David Wilcock. 'Jumproom to Mars' (12-7-07)
Link: http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock.html

Very intriguinging video.
I like this website. They never say thay have all the answers.
I sincerly believe they are truly searching for truth.

Here is a link to a man that is named in the video.
Henry Deacon: http://www.projectcamelot.org/liverm...ysicist_4.html

I also believe we are on the cusp of disclosure.
Too many people are coming forward. Too many credible people are coming forward.
A lot in the last 10 years.

My personal favorite is Bob Dean: http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean.html
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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2008 at 12:40pm
 
National Press Club on November 12, 2007.

LINK: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2836950493012369855&hl=en-AU

About damn time too.
Many of us are tired of being deceived and lied too all these years....
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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2008 at 2:45pm
 
hey old Dood. I'm a little upset with the way Roswell was turned into a big old carnival with blow up aliens on every corner. lol. its funny but disturbing. theres this huge 100' blow up green alien in front of this car dealership. the whole town is like that, even the lamposts has this alien face peering down at you.

it makes people think in terms of life out there is a big joke. oh well, the parades are fun when the do their wheelies.. Smiley
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Reply #13 - Jan 3rd, 2008 at 9:04am
 
LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1st, 2008 at 2:45pm:
hey old Dood. I'm a little upset with the way Roswell was turned into a big old carnival with blow up aliens on every corner. lol. its funny but disturbing. theres this huge 100' blow up green alien in front of this car dealership. the whole town is like that, even the lamposts has this alien face peering down at you.

it makes people think in terms of life out there is a big joke. oh well, the parades are fun when the do their wheelies.. Smiley


Well, Yes & no I would guess.  Those old western towns needed to get some kind of income.
At least they keep it 'alive'.

Did you know there were TWO crashes and not just one?  The other crash of 1948-1949.
Link: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case879.htm
Do a search and you will find more info on this crash.
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Reply #14 - Jan 3rd, 2008 at 5:37pm
 
no I didn't know there was 2 crashes. yesterday I almost bought  a book called "the day after the roswell crash."

its all about how the coverup was pulled off so immaculantly.
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Reply #15 - Jan 4th, 2008 at 3:30pm
 
Speaking of Moving threads when I started this one I didn't even see the Off-topic area.
This thread should not be here and should be moved to the off topic forum.

Also..here is a Letter in part and a link to the rest of it....
It is from an 'Insider' that worked for the DoD (Dept of Defense).
Very interesting....AND I believe what this person is saying too.

My Experience with the CARET Program and Extra-terrestrial Technology
Isaac, June 2007

This letter is part of a package I've assembled for Coast to Coast AM to distribute to its audience. It is a companion to numerous document and photo scans and should not be separated from them.

You can call me Isaac, an alias I've chosen as a simple measure of protection while I release what would be called tremendously sensitive information even by todays standards. “Sensitive” is not necessarily synonymous with “dangerous”, though, which is why my conscience is clear as I offer this material up for the public. My government has its reasons for its continual secrecy, and I sympathize with many of them, but the truth is that I'm getting old and I'm not interested in meeting my maker one day with any more baggage than necessary! Furthermore, I put a little more faith in humanity than my former bosses do, and I think that a release of at least some of this info could help a lot more than it could hurt, especially in today's world.

I should be clear before I begin, as a final note: I am not interested in making myself vulnerable to the consequences of betraying the trust of my superiors and will not divulge any personal information that could determine my identity. However my intent is not to deceive, so information that I think is too risky to share will be simply left out rather than obfuscated in some way (aside from my alias, which I freely admit is not my real name). I would estimate that with the information contained in this letter, I could be narrowed down to one of maybe 30-50 people at best, so I feel reasonably secure.

Some Explanation for the Recent Sightings

For many years I've occasionally considered the release of at least some of the material I possess, but the recent wave of photos and sightings has prompted me to cut to the chase and do so now.

I should first be clear that I'm not directly familiar with any of the crafts seen in the photos in their entirety. I've never seen them in a hangar or worked on them myself or seen aliens zipping around in them. However, I have worked with and seen many of the parts visible in these crafts, some of which can be seen in the Q3-85 Inventory Review scan found at the top of this page. More importantly though, I'm very familiar with the “language” on their undersides seen clearly in photos by Chad and Rajman, and in another form in the Big Basin photos.

One question I can answer for sure is why they're suddenly here. These crafts have probably existed in their current form for decades, and I can say for sure that the technology behind them has existed for decades before that. The “language”, in fact, (I'll explain shortly why I keep putting that in quotes) was the subject of my work in years past. I'll cover that as well.

The reason they're suddenly visible, however, is another matter entirely. These crafts, assuming they're anything like the hardware I worked with in the 80's (assuming they're better, in fact), are equipped with technology that enables invisibility. That ability can be controlled both on board the craft, and remotely. However, what's important in this case is that this invisibility can also be disrupted by other technology. Think of it like radar jamming. I would bet my life savings (since I know this has happened before) that these craft are becoming visible and then returning to invisibility arbitrarily, probably unintentionally, and undoubtedly for only short periods, due to the activity of a kind of disrupting technology being set off elsewhere, but nearby. I'm especially sure of this in the case of the Big Basin sightings, were the witnesses themselves reported seeing the craft just appear and disappear. This is especially likely because of the way the witness described one of the appearances being only a momentary flicker, which is consistent with the unintentional, intermittent triggering of such a device.

It's no surprise that these sightings are all taking place in California, and especially the Saratoga/South Bay area. Not far from Saratoga is Mountain View/Sunnyvale, home to Moffett Field and the NASA Ames Research center. Again, I'd be willing to bet just about anything that the device capable of hijacking the cloaking of these nearby craft was inadvertently triggered, probably during some kind of experiment, at the exact moment they were being seen. Miles away, in Big Basin, the witnesses were in the right place at the right time and saw the results of this disruption with their own eyes. God knows what else was suddenly appearing in the skies at that moment, and who else may have seen it. I've had some direct contact with this device, or at least a device capable of the same thing, and this kind of mistake is not unprecedented. I am personally aware of at least one other incident in which this kind of technology was accidentally set off, resulting in the sudden visibility of normally invisible things. The only difference is that these days, cameras are a lot more common!

The technology itself isn't ours, or at least it wasn't in the 80's. Much like the technology in these crafts themselves, the device capable of remotely hijacking a vehicle's clacking comes from a non-human source too. Why we were given this technology has never been clear to me, but it's responsible for a lot. Our having access to this kind of device, along with our occasionally haphazard experimentation on them, has lead to everything from cloaking malfunctions like this to full-blown crashes. I can assure you that most (and in my opinion all) incidents of UFO crashes or that kind of thing had more to do with our meddling with extremely powerful technology at an inopportune time than it did mechanical failure on their part. Trust me, those things don't fail unless something even more powerful than them makes them fail (intentionally or not). Think of it like a stray bullet. You can be hit by one at any time, without warning, and even the shooter didn't intent to hit you. I can assure you heads are rolling over this as well. If anyone notices a brilliant but sloppy physicist patrolling the streets of Baghdad in the next couple weeks, I'd be willing to guess how he got there. (I kid, of course, as I certainly hope that hasn't actually happened in this case)

I'd now like to explain how it is that I know this.

The CARET Program

My story begins the same as it did for many of my co workers, with graduate and post-graduate work at university in electrical engineering. And I had always been interested in computer science, which was a very new field at the time, and my interest piqued with my first exposure to a Tixo during grad school. In the years following school I took a scenic route through the tech industry and worked for the kinds of companies you would expect, until I was offered a job at the Department of Defense and things took a very different turn.

My time at the DoD was mostly uneventful but I was there for quite a while. I apparently proved myself to be reasonably intelligent and loyal. By 1984 these qualities along with my technical background made me a likely candidate for a new program they were recruiting for called “CARET”.

Before I explain what CARET was I should back up a little. By 1984, Silicon Valley had been a juggernaut of technology for decades. In the less than 40 years since the appearance of Shockley’s transistor this part of the world had already produced a multi billion dollar computer industry and made technological strides that were unprecedented in other fields, from hypertext and online collaboration in '68 to the Alto in '73.

Private industry in Silicon Valley was responsible for some of the most incredible technological leaps in history and this fact did not go unnoticed by the US government and military. I don’t claim to have any special knowledge about Roswell or any of the other alleged early UFO events, but I do know that whatever the exact origin, the military was hard at work trying to understand and use the extra-terrestrial artifacts it had in its possession. While there had been a great deal of progress overall, things were not moving as quickly as some would have liked. So, in 1984, the CARET program was created with the aim of harnessing the abilities of private industry in silicon valley and applying it to the ongoing task of understanding extra-terrestrial technology.

One of the best examples of the power of the tech sector was Xerox PARC, a research center in Palo Alto, CA. XPARC was responsible for some of the major milestones in the history of computing. While I never had the privilege of working there myself I did know many of the people who did and I can say that they were among the brightest engineers I ever knew.

XPARC served as one of the models for the CARET program’s first incarnation, a facility called the Palo Alto CARET Laboratory (PACL, lovingly pronounced “packle” during my time there). This was where I worked, along with numerous other civilians, under the auspices of military brass who were eager to find out how the tech sector made so much progress so quickly. My time at the DoD was a major factor behind why I was chosen, and in fact about 30+ others who were hired around the same time had also been at the Department about as long, but this was not the case for everyone. A couple of my co-workers were plucked right from places like IBM and, at least two of them came from XPARC itself. My DoD experience did make me more eligable for positions of management, however, which is how I have so much of this material in my possession to begin with.

So in other words, civilians like myself who had at--at most--some decent experience working for the DoD but no actual military training or involvement, were suddenly finding ourselves in the same room as highly classified extra-terrestrial technology. Of course they spent about 2 months briefing us all before we saw or did anything, and did their best to convince us that if we ever leaked a single detail about what we were being told, they’d do everything short of digging up our ancestors and putting a few slugs in them too just for good measure. It seemed like there was an armed guard in every corner of every room. I’d worked under some pretty hefty NDAs in my time but this was so far out of my depth I didn’t think I was going to last 2 weeks in an environment like that. But amazingly things got off to a good start. They wanted us, plain and simple, and our industry had shown itself to be so good at what it did that they were just about ready to give us carte blanche.

Of course, nothing with the military is ever that simple, and as is often the case they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. What I mean by this is that despite their interest in picking our brains and learning whatever they could from our way of doing things, they still wanted to do it their way often enough to frustrate us.

At this point I'm going to gloss over the emotional side of this experience, because this letter isn't intended to be a memoir, but I will say that there's almost no way to describe the impact this kind of revelation has on your mind. There are very few moments in life in which your entire world view is turned forever upside down, but this was one of them. I still remember that turning point during the briefing when I realized what he'd just told us, and that I hadn't heard him wrong, and that it wasn't some kind of joke. In retrospect the whole thing feels like it was in slow motion, from that slight pause he took just before the term “extra-terrestrial” came out for the first time, to the way the room itself seemed to go off kilter as we collectively tried to grasp what was being said. My reflex kept jumping back and forth between trying to look at the speaker, to understand him better, and looking at everyone else around me, to make sure I wasn't the only one that was hearing this. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, it's a lot like a child learning his parents are divorcing. I never experienced that myself, but a very close friend of mine did when were boys, and he confided in me a great deal about what the experience felt like. A lot of what he said would aptly describe what I was feeling in that room. Here was a trusted authority figure telling you something that you just don't feel ready for, and putting a burden on your mind that you don't necessarily want to carry. The moment that first word comes out, all you can think about it is what it was like only seconds ago, and knowing that life is never going to be as simple as it was then. After all that time at the DoD, I thought I at least had some idea of what was going on in the world, but I'd never heard so much as a peep about this. Maybe one day I'll write more on this aspect, because it's the kind of thing I really would like to get off my chest, but for now I'll digress.


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Reply #16 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 9:25am
 
Behold a Pale Horse.

This is a video from 2-23-91.
William Cooper's story.
Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-729985813912005672&q=%22rothschilds%22
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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 3:54pm
 
Dood, this reminds me of the nurse who was "relocated" probably given a new identity also, from Roswell, because she saw the alien they brought to Roswell mortuary; this nurse was trying to keep people out of the room, but it was difficult because there was a whole lot of excitement going on that night.

sometime I'll link you to my story where I met and bought the house of the illegitimate daughter of one of our past presidents. she said she went obe and spoke with her father, whom she had never met in person, but whom had provided for her secretly some care. and the unbelievable part of this story is  father told her he was an alien sent to run things down here. and I might add his record is pretty good, despite the out of wedlock baby. btw, she's the spitting image of him.
which makes her half alien. I find it interesting is all, and I'm open minded and if we read Monroe, he visited his "home" planet, he purports to be from another solar system himself.

Big universe out there huh?  Smiley
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Reply #18 - Jan 8th, 2008 at 4:52pm
 
Very interesting Alysia...
I have no problem believing that beings 'originaly' came from some other planet and then came here to help us along.
I have read that Lincoln was such a being however, I have NO proof of that.
On the Afterlife101 website it is stated there that beings from time to time incarnate here on Earth to help us along.

That video I posted is over 4.5 hours long.  It is old and not in good shape but, the info on it is staggering.
Even if 10% is correct then it is still amazing.  I believe it to be at least 80% correct from what I have researched.

No shock to me anyways to find out that William Cooper is dead.  Died in a controversial shooting with Sherriff Deputies in 2001.
He was accused of Tax Evasion & Bank Fraud.  I do not know if they are real charges or not.
Funny how people that try to warn us become dead or accused of things.

If you read Project Camelot's website (Front Page) they make a statement to this.
That they are not going to kill themselves and all that jazz just in case they end up dead.
Read it here: http://www.projectcamelot.org/
They are not stoopid! Cheesy
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