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http://adcguides.com/afterlife12.htm If, you actually go to greaterreality.com ... Those two sites are listing all the after-death communications that say there is no hell.."
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Those behind these websites make irresponsible generalizations without first doing their homework. (1) Catholics did not invent the doctrine of Hell. The Judaism of late antiquity taught a well developed doctrine of Hell as macabre as any Medieval Catholic speculation. For example, just read 1 Enoch from 200 BC. The Hells of Chinese Buddhism are as ghastly as any of the Medieval Catholic speculations. (2) The claim that ADCs do not generally stress Hell overlooks the obvious question of whether the wicked hellbound would be willing or able to manifest to us in a positive way. ADCs designate a wide umbrella of manifestations. The ADCs of Ouija board communications routinely identity Hell as their place of origin. Many case of possession are demonic. But some of these malevolent ADCs have discarnate humans as their source. And just where do you imagine these entities to reside?
[B & U:] "I'd trust after-death communications, over near-deaths any day..."
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More absurd is your claim that ADCs are more trustworthy than NDEs. That's like saying nonfictional books are more reliable than TV news. Each case must be examined on its own merits. Most ADCs are of no evidential value to investigators. Many NDEs are accompanied by impressive verfications. e. g.
(1) accurate NDE descriptions of medical equipment, doctors, nurses, and even loved ones in
hospital waiting rooms. These descriptions often include what was said and done.
(2) People born blind often see colors for the first time in their NDE visits to otherworldly
vistas.
(3) NDEs often disclose paranormal information about the future.
(4) The figures encountered during NDEs are often unpredictable from the patient's religious
or philosophical upbringing: e. g. atheists, Jews, and Muslims encountering Jesus;
encountering unexpected deceased relatives rather than hallucinating living relatives.
Your claim overlooks the independent verifications of the Hells encountered during NDEs from astral projection and OBEs. Swedenborg's descriptions of his ADCs from Hell are macabre and graphic. Swedenborg has more impressive verifications than almost any other ADCs. Other astral explorers with widely different worldviews confirm that existence of hellish planes: e. g. Robert Bruce, Bruce Moen, and Robert Monroe. There is widespread consensus from a variety of astral methods for the existence of Hells based on the principle of like attracts like. The Bible was the first source to articulate this principle. And I remind you that 2nd century Catholicism provides the earliest literary evidence for the doctrine of retrievals. These retrievals rescue the hellbound!
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