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GATEWAY EXPERIENCE JOURNALS II (Read 176511 times)
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Reply #345 - Dec 14th, 2011 at 7:07pm
 
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This morning I did my sleep/wake/meditate routine as usual, but this time I induced a WILD (wake induced lucid dream) rather than waiting for my state to deepen enough to shift to the nonphysical.  I do not believe I thought about this, but rather it seems the vision came to me spontaneously, of the earth from a distance.  I willed my consciousness to zoom into the earth, and I approached the United States.  Funny enough, it appeared as if it was a map I was diving into rather than the actual planet, as there were clear divisions of the states.  I may have been creating this vision from memory, and I say this because my knowledge of geography isn't very good, and the states seemed to shift, almost like trying to read while in a dream or obe.  But the closer I came to the earth's surface, the deeper my consciousness shifted into this reality, and soon enough I was fully there, flying maybe 100 feet or so over buildings and houses.

I found myself in a mall and I was with a friend.  It may have been my guide, as I had thought about guides beforehand.  We stopped outside of a room in which some type of marketing meeting was taking place for a drink product.  There was a man sitting outside of the room, a representative for the product, and an exchange went on between us in which he refused to let us have a drink although there was plenty available, and we tried to convince him that he should give us some.  I believe we ended up taking some despite his refusal. 

A strange aspect of this mall was that there were floor tiles of different shades, colors, and sizes, and the tiles of a specific color lead a trail to a specific store, and the prominence of the tile trails in regard to their size, boldness of color, and proximity to the center of the halls determined the potential success of that business' marketing and advertising strategy, as the tiles were a big part of that strategy.  I remember seeing the drink product company's tiles in the center of the mall walkway, big, bold and dark blue, and thought, wow they must have paid good money for these tiles, and they must bring in a lot of business for them.  A strange concept, I know, but it was real where I was.

After this experience, I induced another WILD, and I found myself in a large area with a huge pool in the center of the building with store and restaurants surrounding the pool.  There were people all around engaged in their activities.  I understood (I was told by my higher self) that I was to ensure the safety of this man as he dove from the ceiling of the building into the pool to rescue someone who was having trouble swimming.  I jumped down from the platform which was about 75 feet high, following the man as he dove into the pool and swam to the person needing help. 

A whole lot of other things happened which escape my memory, as I did not immediately record the experience upon awaking.  I do not recall doing any hand glances for lucidity boosters, and so I may have had wavering levels of awareness throughout the experience.  I seemed to be pure mental awareness for the most part of these journeys.

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Reply #346 - Dec 16th, 2011 at 4:27pm
 
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I am pretty sure that this spontaneous nonphysical journey(not sure if it was an obe or a lucid dream[not that there's much of a difference anyway], as I cannot recall the moment I became fully lucid) was induced by the custom made "higher self" affirmation tracks I left playing on loop throughout my sleep. 

I was flying through the beautiful late-day sky, passing through clouds, about as high up as an airplane's average elevation of flight.  I noticed a floating ball of light and went over to it.  It was about the size of a basketball, and I seemed to absorb it as I touched it.  I flew a little more, and noticed another floating ball, but this was not a ball of light, but rather a foam/rubber ball, about the size of a melon.  I had a feeling it should have been lit up, but wasn't.  It reminded me of a science project where you have to construct the solar system out of foam balls, and had the idea that it was a prop.

I flew into an upper level apartment in a building and out onto the deck.  I saw a book bag, and went through it.  There were notebooks from class.  The name on the notebooks was Mike Shmidt, and I also read the name of the school, which I cannot recall now.  They were mostly math-related subjects, but I realized that they were a different mathematics and physics than we have here in the physical, so I put the notebooks in my jacket pocket(yes, suddenly I was wearing a jacket LOL) to take back to the physical with me(I didn't think that one through LOL) so the nonphysical math and physics could be analyzed. 

Flying around some apartments, it seemed as if some of them were partially submerged under water, which was strange because the water clearly wasn't that high outside.  Rising high above the clouds, I encountered awe-inspiring structures that seemed to reach miles high into the sky.  I approached a city which was likewise majestic.  It was more beautiful than any city could possibly appear in the physical, although it didn't seem heavenly in nature, but more like a nonphysical Vegas.  As I was viewing this beautiful city from a distance, the idea came to me that if there was some way to extract photographs from a persons mind/brain in the physical, I would be able to more accurately and dynamically share my nonphysical explorations and show people just how beautiful the greater reality is.
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Reply #347 - Dec 22nd, 2011 at 2:11am
 
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Last night before bed I listened to a coast to coast interview with an et contactee (Jim Moroney), and I felt particularly open to et contact as I was falling asleep.  As I meditated, my intent directed an aspect of my consciousness to project upwards into the sky and into a spacecraft, where I found a feeling of peace and joy.  I soon lost consciousness. 

In my dream state I found myself in a huge, beautiful spacecraft that was more like an indoor futuristic city.  I recall having three separate experiences in spacecrafts.  I do not know if they were different ufos or the same one, but what it interesting is that I have a feeling that these different experiences may have been happening simultaneously.  I remember being somewhat confused while trying to keep track of what was happening and separating one experience from the other. 

The most prominent experience was nothing short of amazing.  I was in the ship as myself in my current state of consciousness, and I was visiting a past version of myself as a child who was also in the ship with some of my close family members.  I explained to my past self and my past family who I was and what my purpose was, and ahhh I wish I could remember what I was saying to them!  I feel I gave them some kind of instruction.  It was an awesome experience!
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Reply #348 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 12:55am
 
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This morning I decided to have an OBE.  I began to shift frequency and my legs rose up in the air.  However, they didn't seem to rise by themselves.  Rather, it felt as if someone lifted them up.  I felt hands on my nonphysical feet, and they began gently pulling and tugging, maybe half a foot back and forth.  I had the idea that whoever was doing this was helping me to detach from my body, and that this was the same being that has pulled me from my body in the past. 

I shifted deeper and began to fall.  I fell for about 10 - 15 seconds and found myself in another world.  It was somewhat dark, and the landscape seemed industrial and almost futuristic.  I looked at my hands, and they were shadowy and slightly out of focus.  My perception wasn't crystal clear, and I almost shifted back to the physical, but I focused and regained control.

I flew up and found myself looking into a large mirror that was near the top of the outside of a building.  To my surprise, there were two beings in the reflection right behind me, looking over my shoulder.  The one immediately behind me seemed to be a human, and the being behind him, looking over the human's shoulder, appeared to be a larger being of a non-human nature.  I had the idea that they were somehow part of me, or connected to me in some way.  I turned around, and they were gone.  I soon found myself back in my body.

I am mystified as to the nature of the beings that I saw in that mirror and their relation to me.  I couldn't get a read on their energy signature, as my perception was abnormally low this experience.
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Reply #349 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 4:46am
 
Out Of Body Dude,

Here is a riddle:

If you dreamt of having a fully conscious out of body experience, how would you know whether it was real or a dream?
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Reply #350 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 10:52am
 
In other words, you are asking what the difference is between a lucid dream and an OBE.  In my experience, not much is different between the two states.

Are you doubting whether my OBEs are genuine?   Shocked
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Reply #351 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:44pm
 
I Am Dude wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 10:52am:
In other words, you are asking what the difference is between a lucid dream and an OBE.  In my experience, not much is different between the two states.

Are you doubting whether my OBEs are genuine?   Shocked

No, I am certainly not doubting you. I am sure you do go out of body. 

I am putting forward an obvious question that will come to the mind of any open minded questioning person dealing with this subject, whether they are sceptical or not, and whether they have had out of body experience or not.

Some might not ask you the question, but most will think it. 

It is the first analytical question that arises within the subject, and naturally requires answering.

It requires a clear and definite answer; one which will satisfy a healthy intelligent inquiring mind regardless of their leaning on the subject, and whether they be practitioner or skeptic.

We progress through a subject and take up its knowledge, only to the extent that we can answer the subject's questions. At the periphery of the subject of out-of-body-experience, this question is the first we come across. When the first question is solved, the second arises, and so on through the many many questions between periphery and core.       

I'm not asking about lucid dreams. I'm asking about normal dreams; normal dreams of going out of body.

We can dream of anything, including out of body travels.

We are particularly inclined to dream about things of importance to us and to which we put in our efforts and preparations. 

So if one makes preparations and efforts towards consciously going out of body, and due to such preparations and efforts then dreams of consciously going out of body, how can one know it is a dream? 

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Reply #352 - Jan 15th, 2012 at 12:49am
 
I have had out of body experiences from a normal dream quite a few times. 

But your question is illogical due to the nature of the out of body experience and its relationship to dreams. 

The main difference between a dream and an OBE/lucid dream is the level of one's self awareness and lucidity.  So to have a dream in which one is self aware necessarily brings that dream into the realm of lucid dreaming/obe. 

When I projected from the dreams, I instantly became lucid, conscious of the fact that I was having a real experience in a nonphysical dimension.  It was no longer just a dream.  Although I was not aware at the time that I was projecting "inside" of a dream, it was a real projection nonetheless. 

Having had many OBEs from the dream state, I can confidently say that there is little difference between an obe from a waking state, an obe from the dream state, a lucid dream, or an obe from a lucid dream. 

Just to clarify, I use the term OBE loosely.  Some of my OBEs are astral projections, some may occur in the Real Time, some are mental projections.  I clump these experiences into a broader category for simplicity.

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Reply #353 - Jan 15th, 2012 at 1:32am
 
OOBDude, are you saying that what you feel is and what you call conscious awareness feels the same to you no matter how you have what you call an OBE?  If so, I agree because of what I know of my own experiences.

The reason I'm wording it that way is because we really cannot know what another person experiences no matter how well they try to describe it.  All we can be certain of is how we measure our own experience and of course compare to only our own experience.  To compare our judgement of our own level of awareness to someone else's is inherently absurd. 

I agree with what I asked you above, in my own OBEs whether I have them from the waking state, sleeping/dreaming state, or lucid dream.  The point is that I know what my own level of conscious awareness is compared to any of my other experiences.  I agree with you that the shift in consciousness due to such experiences is real based on what you know of your own consciousness, whether it's within a dream or not, simply for the fact that we cannot step outside of our own awareness, ever.  All we can ever really be aware of is always within the framework of our own awareness.  As for dreaming a fake awareness of our own conscious awareness?  You may as well walk around all day long asking yourself if you are really awake or just making it all up.   

For what it's worth, I see this challenge that Crossbow is asserting as an interesting conversation but not actually something anybody should spend much time worrying about. 

By the way, I've always admired your tenacity to your own development and expanded knowledge of your own consciousness. 

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Reply #354 - Jan 15th, 2012 at 2:07am
 
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Yes, nonphysical conscious awareness is nonphysical conscious awareness, regardless of the category of experience it falls into.  When one is in that state and has the connection with the higher mind, there is no mistaking it for anything else.  I like how you put it, "dreaming a fake awareness of one's own conscious awareness," as that is what crossbow seems to be saying.  Rather silly if you ask me!  By the way, thank you for your kind words, I hope that my spiritual work has inspired you to develop along your own spiritual path.

Crossbow, perhaps you have some personal experiences which relate to your idea?
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Reply #355 - Jan 15th, 2012 at 10:56am
 
OutOfBodyDude, fair enough; that is your answer.

My question is not intended to be unfriendly or hostile in any way, nor to cast doubt upon the validity of your experiences, nor to cause you to feel affronted, although I expected you might and I accept that sometimes happens. I thought it might be difficult to answer, but I put it forward to encourage thought in a particular direction, to draw attention to a distinction between one thing and another that is helpful to perceive, and to clarify that distinction, and believe it or not, to assist.


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Reply #356 - Jan 15th, 2012 at 12:46pm
 
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I don't perceive your question as being unfriendly, hostile, or doubtful.  It is not difficult to answer, but rather, impossible to answer, for the question is contradictory.  I am wondering if you see this.  If you have a dream, and in that dream you are having an out of body experience, well, the very nature of one's consciousness during an out of body experience necessarily elevates the normal dream consciousness to a level of lucidity and self awareness.  The idea of having an OBE from a dream is interesting, this is true, and like I said, I've experienced it many times, so I am coming from a place of knowing in my response.  But one thing I have found through having all types of different experiences and trying to classify them in one category or another, is that this differentiating between seemingly different methods of nonphysical conscious exploration is usually unnecessary.
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Reply #357 - Jan 17th, 2012 at 10:22pm
 
Very well, OutOfBodyDude.

I hope you continue to make good progress. I'm sure you will.
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Reply #358 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 2:09am
 
Thank you   Smiley

So, what is your belief on the subject you brought up?  If I recall, you have done your fair share of exploring nonphysical realities as well.  I am curious as to what you have found.
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Reply #359 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:53pm
 
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Yesterday I had a powerful dream which evolved into an out of body experience.  The dream was about Deepak Chopra.  He was attending some kind of event with a large crowd of people, and the audience was to choose numbers, like a lottery.  The numbers were chosen at random, and the one who chose the winning numbers received a large amount of money.  The numbers were chosen, and Deepak was the winner.  The audience was less than enthused, as they all realized that Deepak had more than enough money and didn't need the prize, but Sr. Chopra himself was ecstatic.  He jumped up, celebrating, and yelled to the audience, "This ticket is yours!"  Immediately the crowd burst into cheers and applause at the kind act.  He was to host an event where every member of the audience would attend and receive a check for the amount split evenly amongst the audience.

I then found myself watching a program on TV in which Deepak was standing face to face with his wife, moving in unison in a slow, meditative type of dance, but they were not touching each other.  They were both in a blissful meditative state, immersed fully in the moment and in their love for one another as aspects of the creator.  He was verbally directing his wife's and the viewer's attention on the chakras, going from the crown down to the root.  As he did this, I felt intense energy in the respective chakras in my energy body as they became active, even though I was viewing this in the third person, without having any type of body present.  It seemed like my energy body was in another dimension, and I had split awareness. 

I soon found myself out of my body, in my room, which appeared to be a hybrid of my current room and an old room I once lived in.  I found myself moving quickly through a long corridor.  I was facing up and moving backwards, so I was viewing the ceiling and walls around me as I moved.  I believe I was being carried, because I had no intention of going anywhere.  I was just along for the ride. 
A part of me resisted, as I did not know who was taking me or where we were going. 

I found myself back in my room, and soon again I was being taken in the same fashion by whatever beings they were.  I did not see anyone, but I felt that some beings were involved.  I was trying to deal with the possibility that they were ETs of some kind, although I don't believe that should bother me at this point.  This is where the inner resistance came from, and the reason why the experience soon ended. 

The experience served as a reminder to keep my focus on love and to trust in my higher self to lead me to the experiences that are suited for my highest development and highest good.  Interesting symbolism in the Deepak Chopra dream as well.
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