orlando123 wrote on Oct 10^th, 2007 at 6:54pm:


I agree with you 100%!  I think he was tuning something very masculine in that moment.


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If you get stuck in a very narrow tunnel vision and don't acknowledge the other aspects of life that make you happy, you might do something that leaves you in a place you'd rather not be.  It's very easy for a transgendered person to "obsess" on gender and lose sight of the big picture.

Aeyna wrote on Oct 10^th, 2007 at 8:10pm:


  Maybe its more that this person was expressing ego, which is neither just a 'man' or 'woman' issue? 

    Maybe both women and men with ego are competitive (or rather 'ego' is competitive in general), but tend to express it differently, and with men and their overall and average tendency to greater 'yang' polarized and thus projective energy, its simply just more obvious and noticeable?   

  On my journey through life, i've noticed a common pattern particularly with those who are overall imbalanced more to the Yin expression essentially thinking that 'ego' wise, that their shit doesn't stink as much, so to speak.    This is because yin energy or expression, tends to be much more subtle, and inward directed, and not so obvious as the more Yang polarized energy/expression is. 

   This does not necessarily mean women vs. men btw, i've seen this both with women, and with men who are more imbalanced to the yin within self on the mental and emotional levels.  Yes, on average, women do tend to be more imbalanced to the Yin polarization, just as more men do tend to be imbalanced towards the Yang polarization. 

  Going into more detail, relating to the paragraph above this and the last one, this can be illustrated well in the Zodiac signs of Cancer and Leo.    Cancer is a feminine sign, ruled by the very yin polarized Moon.   Leo is a masculine sign supposedly ruled by the more yang Sun (i believe its really ruled by Mercury and Mars together, and that the Sun is neither Yang, nor Yin, but represents an almost perfect balance, but that's a whole nother discussion). 

  Anyways, both Cancer and Leo are rather self centered and selfish (thus essentially "egotistical") in many ways, and yet Cancer isn't really known for this, and Leo is supposedly this personified or to the nth degree.   Why the big difference in perception?   Because Cancer's energies are so inward turned, passive, reflecting, absorbing, and subtle in nature, and Leo's are very projective, expressive, active, and much more directly obvious.    Is one expression really better than the other, if both are at their core self centered and ego centered (speaking of the signs, and not of individuals born under these indications)?   

  Not to me, we just have a polarization and extreme comparison between ultra feminine (Cancer), and ultra masculine (Leo).   Lot's of times, i've noticed that strong and imbalanced feminine energy being expressed from the false self, is EXTREMELY manipulative and unconscious/reactive/irrational in nature (and thus doesn't tend to be too honest or direct with self or others).  And we all know the downside to strong, imbalanced masculine energy being expressed from the false self, since this is often commented on in our society lately, particularly by women and a percentage of gay men (and understandably so).    Anyways, point is, ego is ego, no matter how it comes across on the surface. 
   We're all human, we're all souls, and if we consciously, completely, and always transcended the ego, we would consciously and always completely transcend the physical itself...

betson wrote on Oct 11^th, 2007 at 9:53am:


  Many welcomes Bets.  Personally i find that topic and history fascinating.   I agree, there is not much public attention or understanding, even in the "new age" world, on stuff like this.   There are though, some intentional communities here and there, who are seeking to foster similar conditions as did the Essenes in that space/time cycle.  I've noticed that some of these tend to either be too 'fluid' in nature, and lack structure, or the other extreme, they tend to be too structured and lack enough fluidity.   Yet another Yin-Yang balance issue, which i seem to be speaking obsessively on lately.
 
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Here, here!  You don't know how much i (lol or my ego) appreciates someone else also recognizing and saying this!

  And yet it's so essentially simple, life comes from and perpetuates life, and death comes from and perpetuates death.....

   The Essenes knew this well, and knew it pertained to the physical, the mental, and spiritual, and while none of them lived it perfectly like Yeshua eventually did, they did perceive the necessary balance which must take place for that complete redeeming of the physical to take place.   They also fostered brining in such a one who would eventually perfectly live as they themselves only perceived and dreamed of...

  We ever live in a reciprocal reality, whether speaking physicality or nonphysically. 

  Cayce's source once said that the Essenes practiced a form of spiritual eugenics, not even remotely resembling the materially based one that Hitler and many Nazi's bought into.   But that they fully understood the energy reaction/law of like attracts and begets like, or also called "energy resonation", and that it pertained to all levels of being.

  My guidance has been rather insistent on certain even physical disciplines and dietary changes, and i know that when i finally master these more physical and dietary aspects of life (as well as more consistency in meditation), that MUCH will be opened up for me, and it will be easier to spiritually act from my center within the physical at all times.   But, alas i can be lazy and have tendencies to procrastination.   Strangely, there is almost a sense of urgency with this, with them, not that they are controlling, but rather that they know that deep within i know better and thus feel i should be living up to my ideals, and in the future not just for my sake and happiness.

Recoverer, Sorry for any confusion. I did not want to seem like I was in any way tring to glorify what the bombers did. Or do I believe that there will be any virgins waiting for them in their heaven. My thought are more along the lines of their created spiritual end and to the sexual aspect thinking that revolves around this virgin thing that they expect. I believe that you create you own heaven or hell. I will manifest what I believe in and what I am ready to experience and understand on a personal level of enlightenment. Only I can deside what I will experience. An example is that as I don't believe in organised religion, I wont be spending time in the belief system territorty that has that covered. Nor will I get stuck there and need to be assisted along from there. I think that these bombers will go to their belief system territory and experience just what they believe. They may as a part of this
Joe

  Yeah, i know what you mean Aeyna, it was kind of ironically amusing.  No need to apologize, i wasn't offended in the least bit, i've just been on both a balance and expressive kick lately.  Lately, i'm starting to feel more and more androgynous and don't particularly strongly identify with masculine or feminine, though i can't seem to shake the physical, hormone, lust attraction to the female body though i think life would be much simpler without it!

  Very beautiful name by the way, i like its vibratory pattern and sound.  You kind of remind me of another person from here, with whom i talked to on occasion.  I haven't seen them around for awhile and kind of miss their voice here.

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Oh, but it's so much fun surrender to body/physical, don't you find?  It's one of the more enjoyable paths to the spiritual, I've found. 


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Thank you. It resonates with me as well.   I hope I stay awhile.  I really enjoy the energy here.

Orlando, are you also a male in your 20's?  Lol, dunno about you, but in my case, that might have something to do with the lust tendencies.   

  I know when i conserve my sexual energies not through repression but through deep consistent meditation and concentration on the real in everyday life, i have more energy and clarity in general, and my energy field seems a lot more expansive and powerful.

  Similar to, but also different, from when i eat less but eat more healthy live foods and what not.

Hi Justin, hope u don't mind I call u Justin?  u put the Virgin Mary into a better perspective for me, so thanks, makes sense that Mary would have been prepared both physically and spiritually to bring forth JC, that would include even her family members participating in this event.

nice thread this turned out to be, was it Joe started it? thanks whoever did.

Justin, about the lust, the hormones, the attraction a male has for the curves of the woman, its all necessary to perpetuate the race, or who would bother? 
you and your wife are one now, speaking from a woman's perspective, she feels fulfilled if you even notice her walking by, maybe wink at her..she'll like that!

I feel like your marriage is top of the line somehow. I feel very happy about it.

love, alysia