@ Rondele,
Your words give me a lot to think about. We agree on several things, on another count it`s a bit confusing right now in some way. This is where I usually "step back" focus and relax.

Rondele I respect your thoughts on the matter, however one must step back from the entire material and diffus the messages being sent by Moen and co.. okay. Admonitions are "warnings". I find it okay that he warns.

I am in assumption that Bruce is not out here telling people to do playful sèances, as he also warns of that which is carelessly done and he`s probably just as less telling people to contact the deceased for the purpose of sh*t`s and grins   either. I believe (without ever have met him) his purpose is to help eliminate the biased misconception of many in relevance to what the afterlife is all about to begin with, so to help people overcome the centuries over centuries, generational passdown worth of "gossip, manipulated info and ego driven identification with the subject". For his insight I am thankful, as it adds another piece to the puzzle.

There are many medials but very few educated afterlife qualified mediums. Its a learning process. If one can learn to kick the ego, has been given the insight then theres a good chance. Thats where Peter H. Kirchner comes in as well. The non-biased research is very important aspect when ones learning. Experiencers are also needed for others to learn, because those that experience are the pioniers. To me it makes sense, theres leaders, followers and people whom get out of the way. I am trying to find out which one of these I am.

The "Moment in History" for to advance to the next step of evolution and consciousness must be very near, after all, look at what we have learned when merely looking at the past 2000 years of history. Geez, I just took a moment to reflect the different aspects of freedom the poeple of all of this world really have experienced only in the last 62 years. I dont know what country you originate from, but my grandfather had none of the above, as the freedom wasn`t here in germany during his time and alot of people can`t handle being suddenly dropped from governmental dependancy into personal freedom of choice.  

My point is: Humans have to slowly be awakend and explained of what they really are, for the evolution to even be able to take place.  We have one thing working against us: OUR FREAKIN BRAIN! It always trys to interfere with the "little voice inside of us" ergo: our spirit! We have been taught to listen to our "logical brain" instead of our "spiritual being", why: because mankind could put the logical brain in his hands and look at it, disect it, try to rebuild it however mankind is too freaking dumb...ooops, take that back (wanna be nice)... too unconsciously aware to catch a soul! Or do we catch them everyday, and just not notice, because of the barriers our BRAIN sets us.  

EXAMPLE. Our brain tells us: Don`t fall in love and trust another wo(man) like that again, because our brain made the protective connection that the wo(man) nearly killed us in the last relationship, so automatically the "fear" of a new comes about - instinctively" - However our spirit wants us to experience love; rejoice in that experience more and more. And as you can witness a thousand times a day: The spirit always wins that arguement, as we always fall in love over and over again throughout our lives, sometimes with someone new and then sometimes with our long lived "old" partner.

Its all about experiencing Rondele. Swedenborg is also right. Be careful, he says. As one person drives a car 100 miles using sober responsibility, another may drive his car 100 miles drunk! Both feel at the time of driving that they are good drivers. Its the experience of consequence of ones own choice, that makes the difference if one has learned the lesson. Click on the added website and learn all about why you may be having this conversation with me. There are no co-incidences.

I can already tell, you`re my buddy   thank you for being that too! Even if you weren`t I`d love ya anyway ! I think we got off of the initial thread, and we should apologise to the thread starter for that.
Nanner

My feeling is that from the moment we're born we have a natural connection to the beings of love and light who are close to us.  Even if one hasn't tried to make contact with one's friends from the spirit World, one can find clues that one has done so without realizing it. Perhaps one has been sent intuition level messages throughout one's life, or messages through dreams.

After I made conscious contact with my friends from the spirit World, I realized they were there all along.  I don't know when the presence of Christ came into the picture. My feeling is that if he exists in a Gospel of John sense, and/or has something in common with the planning intelligence Bruce made contact with, his presence has always been there. It was just waiting for me to say hello.

Whether one should make contact should be determined on a case by case basis. I believe it would be too stringent to do like some people stated Emanuel Swedenbory suggests, and to conclude that unless you are him, you shouldn't make contact.  To take such an approach is to have no faith in the light.  If one sincerely prays to make contact with divine beings for positive reasons, one should be able to have faith that one can make contact with divine beings.

I was very careful about it. Everything tells me that I am in contact with light beings. My contact with them has helped me immensly.  Occasionally an unfriendly spirit will show up. They are usually easy to recognize. IF I WOULD'VE MADE THE CHOICE TO "NOT" MAKE CONTACT WITH LIGHT BEINGS DUE TO FEAR, I WOULD'VE ALLOWED DARK SPIRITS TO INTIMIDATE ME INTO NOT DOING MY PART TO HELP WITH THE DIVINE CAUSE.  I ALSO WOULD'VE MADE A DECISION THAT STUNTED MY SPIRITUAL GROWTH BIG TIME. I believe it is a big mistake to give them so much power.  They probably love it when we do so. They probably say: "Hee, hee, hee.  That guy has more confidence in us than he does in the light."

Last night's dream: a neat diagram-like "forum" presence...it was us....was scanning through. All is well; feeling of "almost" perfection, all is in place.

love, blink