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hawkeye Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 886 canada Gender:	Re: Gateway Reply #15 - Aug 16^th, 2007 at 3:49pm The short version....experiencing PUL, met (my) the All, was told the meaning of life, yes... life changing. I didn't even mention the OBE's. No death, ever. To truly know, life changing! Everthing has a soul or beingness (energy). Every tree, rock, blade of grass, wave of the ocean. I have no doupt at all. Joe
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Reply #16 - Aug 16^th, 2007 at 4:21pm

Thanks. And did you make any major life changes in a practical way as a result? Or was it more a matter of inner changes - feeling more loved/loving and free, and confident about the existance of God and the soul and an afterlife and so on? Or do you prefer not to talk about specifics about your life on a public board?

Either way I take it you'd definitely recommend doing it ? LOL!

Did you consider any of the follow-up courses? Do you think doing a residential course is a lot different from working with books and CDs and things?

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Reply #17 - Aug 16^th, 2007 at 6:54pm

123, I would go to a mountian top and yell it out. I don't go on about it as I am at work and time is short. Work come first then here. Also I am illiterate and it takes me some time to look up the spelling of some of the words I need to put down. Don't want to look stupid to all the brains that are here on this page. My most significant change was quiting smoking pot. After some 30 years of smoking every day, I quit just like that. The way I look on others is so different also. I can see more of who people are and why they do things both positive and negative. I understand the working of evil and of sacrifice more clearly and the reasions, spiritually, for them and the lessions they bring. It did change my belief about my God. But even more so about me and my All. Bruce would call it my Disk. As for other courses, I have compleated Guidelines also. Good, but Gateway was a tough act to follow. I will be going to Lifeline this fall. It is by far the most important to me. Its about retrievals and the such of which I must compleat doing for myself over the next few years. As for going to the residential course instead of the at home. I say go. The tapes ore different and far more intence of a deal. You get them for hours a day and that makes such a difference. Plus the people you meet may well change your life. I could go on and on about it. You have to get past the money part and decide what you want out of this lifetime. I don't have money. But when I made the decision to go, the money came to me. I know I was to go, just when I did. I also had the home tapes also and l had listened to them before going. Still, going to TMI made all the difference. If I was Bill Gates and not Joe -------- I would send everone here one this page to TMI and my own cost. Thats how important it really is.
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Reply #18 - Aug 16^th, 2007 at 7:22pm

you know 123, when I read what I wrote, it seams like I haven't said just how big of a deal it was and how important it was. I don't know if I ever could explain how changing it was and still is. I believe even Bruce would tell how important it is if given the chance. I know it changed his life also. I can tell by how he speaks of TMI in his books. Not that he hasen't progressed further, but I am sure it was most pivotal.
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orlando123 Senior Member Offline Posts: 258 France	Re: Gateway Reply #19 - Aug 16^th, 2007 at 8:09pm Thank you very much Joe. I think there's a good chance I will try going to the one in Spain one day, even though it's pretty expensive. I live in the South of France, so it is more practical then going to the US
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black_panther Full Member Offline Posts: 121 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Gateway Reply #20 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:36am Hi Joe I've been reading your posts on your experiences at TMI with great interest. Have sent you a PM about this. Irene
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Reply #21 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 8:41pm

Maks---
Before going to the Monroe Institute, I ordered the Gateway Experience CD's. I was able to obtain a series of 7 (though now I think only 6 are available. )

www.hemi-sync.com

Ten years ago, I couln't afford to go to Virginia, so I ordered the series, one at a time until I completed all seven sets. Satisfied, I finally received an e-mail and/or letter from The Monroe Institute stating that Laurie Monroe would be holding a weekend retreat in Connecticut, would I be interested? The cost was around $650. I prayed that I would have the "extra" money for that weekend. My husband saw the letter, and said, "If you want to go, I have extra money in the escrow account". He didn't even finish his sentence when I had the check in the mail! We were 24 people who met at a handicap camp in the dead of winter, with a terrible blizzard outside and by Sunday afternoon, my tears wouldn't stop pouring out. The overwhelming bonds of oneness that was experienced is beyond words. You become ONE with ALL: same thoughts, same wave, same breath. I dreaded going home to "reality". The feeling of profound oneness stayed with me for six months. Slowly, my mind drifted back to this "time zone" and I continued to listen to the CD's and read more about the Hemi'sync experiences of Bruce Moen and Rosie McKnight. It wasn't until 8 years later that I could afford to go to the TMI Gateway program and just this past year, I met Joe (Hawkeye) at Guidelines. The love is overwhelming. The comradship and feeling of "one family" has been the most comfortable pleasures that I have ever had to experience. The guest speakers "float" in and we all "float out behind them" when they leave. God (this is my belief) made the finances possible for me to attend all three retreats. I would do it again in a flash, and will, when the finances allow me to go back. Joe was beaming, everyday. He walked with such a bright aura, that no one need a flashlight in the evenings when near him. And to have the chance to share what messages, images, feelings and thought one has about the Greater Realm, Higher Intelligent beings, souls and spirits who need our help, souls and spirits who are helping us---- to discuss all this and much more without harassment and chastisement-- to ge back only Pure Unconditional Love--- so profound-- so endearing. One of the most stressed "rules" of TMI, is to make sure you get grounded before going back to your families. It's difficult to do. It's necessary. How can you decipher into words another "THERE" when you are here? Is The Monroe Institute worth it???? Every cent. I have much more patients with my family, much more compassion for their needs, much, much more strength mentally and spiritually to attend to my families' ups and downs. It has made me a better human being and has given me some rememberance of who I really am. Love and Light to All--- Carol Ann

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identcat Senior Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 454 New Hampshire Gender:	Re: Gateway Reply #22 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 4:24pm Maks--- Here is a blog that you can cut and paste to a search engine and read up on some TMI experiences: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-GqXmmoMlc6PV2HUHTpQdIE6DRAVJqllkj0iQSElA;_ylt=Aro... it is in Yahoo 360 degrees as BOB BEYOND BOundries BLOG
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orlando123 Senior Member Offline Posts: 258 France	Re: Gateway Reply #23 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 4:33pm It sounds lovely. I am glad you for both it was such an inspiring experience.
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Reply #24 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 5:34pm

I am sure that the Gateway in Spain is the same as at TMI. The trainers are all TMI approved and trained. Not sure of your age 123, nor the cost of Gateway in Spain, but when you look at what you may have time (?) wise left for this lifetime and consider that your only talking pennies per day. The cost will mean nothing once you have gone. What is knowing who you really are worth? Or that you never will die worth? The meaning of life? How (perhaps) to go OOB at will or just to have one OBE? To meet others of your own disc family and know that you know each other without ever having met this lifetime? To retreave someone, perhaps a family member? How can I price be put on any of it.
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orlando123 Senior Member Offline Posts: 258 France	Re: Gateway Reply #25 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 5:52pm I'm 35. Yes, it would be wonderful to have all those things. I am impressed that it gets such a good press on this thread, it's obviously worth a go. Will look again at the site and what dates are available next year perhaps.
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Reply #26 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 6:33pm

Joe and Cat - since you both have mentioned Guidelines, I wonder if you could give a brief description of that and how it impacted you. Something made me feel I needed to take this program before moving on to Lifeline, which I really want to take. Also, a couple friends said they thought it would be helpful. Any thoughts?

Maks and Orlando I'd say Gateway is definitely worth it, provided you're open to experiencing and recalling non-physical experiences. I went this summer and it was great. If I had gone a year ago, when I first wanted to, I might have had a lot more difficulty. Working with Bruce's exercises helped me open up my right brain a bit. Without that my left brain might have given me a bunch of trouble. Time and events made it work out the right way for me.

Only one person in my group said he didn't get much out of it. He was a mechanical engineer and came along to accompany his wife. Said he slept through most of it. However, one experience he did describe was right on the money in terms of the questions he was asking. Heck, that's why I think Bruce is so great. He overcame his engineer's doubt and convinced me (reading his books in sequence) well before he convinced himself.

Trust the feelings and guidance you get.

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Reply #27 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 6:53pm

Rob, Guidelines was far less meaningfull to me than Gateway. Gateway being such a hard act to follow in my case. I wasen't getting a lot for the first three days then I went to the isolation booth with Skip at the wheel so to speak. In reality I was doing the driving and Skip the co-pilot. It took some time for me to get to where I need to go but Skip was good enough to allow me the Time(?) needed as I went through the different focus levels. I felt I needed to be longer in 12 than anywhere. After spending some time in 12 I continued on my most personal journey. Onward to 27-b and to one of my Guides (myself) to learn more of just what makes me tick this time around and who and why I am. Upon my return back to C-1, Skip let me know that he had never seen the amount of movement on one part of the graph that he had seen with me. What it meant, I don't really know. When I go back I will have to ask more questions. I also understood that there was people there at RMR, that I was to meet at this time. Others of, or related to, experiences that I am to have or have had, throughout Time(?).That I needed to meet them once again or to forge relationships with now as they will be needed very soon. I also felt it necessary to do Guildline before Lifeline, although I don't know why. Perhaps when I go to Lifeline, I will understand better. All in all it was very good. Where I would go again to Gateway again and again, I most likely not repeat Guidelines at this time. I also know its all about going to Lifeline for me.
Joe

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Reply #28 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 10:01pm

AS for myself-- I hadn't planned on attending Guidelines. A couple I met at Gateway had planned to attend Guidelines this past April and asked if I could meet them there. After I made my plans and had my airplane tickets, the couple postponed and are attending in September (??). I was very hurt that they changed their plans. So, when I went to Guidelines, I wanted to know why I was to attend without my Gateway pals?? From the moment I was picked up at the airport until that evening when everyone arrived, the persons' first names somehow related to me via a family member or a work companion. It was amazing. All 24 persons had a name I could relate another person in my life to. I was definately ment to be at this particular retreat week.
As the week progressed, I didn't expect anything out of the ordinary---for me---- as I just accept the "talent" that God (my belief) has given me as part of my natural humaness. I was absolutely delighted when I was introduced to my ISH (Inner Self Helper) whom I know was a part of me, I just didn't always connect. I wrote a wonderful letter to both my grandson and granddaughter to be read upon my death. I introduced them to my ISH. I also left them a copy of my CD story about my life as a medium and guide. I also enjoyed going into the sound proof "box" with Skip Atwater as my pilot. During my meditation, I went very deep down into relaxation ---the zoomed and peaked upward and stayed there througout my travel. I saw the blackness of space, and OUR planet coming toward me in pieces. I was told that this is what will happen if humans don't turn around and become more compassionate and loving toward our planet and the beings on it. I was taken to a grid where in one little corner I was told that ALL is connected to the grid, and what is felt in one part is felt by ALL. I was then told that by the year 2010 we would have more answers from higher intellegent beings and that they would finally become involved. It was a good session.
As for the quite time that we are given, when there is no talking at all for about 3 hours--- I didn't get any profond feelings or messages this time nor at Gateway. I had just "quiet time" and I listened to the sounds of nature around me.
Tom H shared some Shamanic lesson with us (and that was very exciting) and I shared a regression exercise and a psychometry exercise to those who wished to attend. Tom H has a blog on Yahoo called Bob Beyond Boundries in which we all meet in the spirit the 3rd Saturday of each month then share our experiences on the blog. And, as stated, Joe was an earth angel who glowed all the time he was at Guidelines.
Each individual has his/her own lessons that are learned and shared. I was ment to attend Guidelines during the week I atteneded and I received PUL and inner knowledge about myself and my struggle with planatery "hate". There is hope for us and it is coming at last!!! Love and Light--- cat

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