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Aug 5th, 2007 at 10:54pm
 
He all,

I am curious to know if anyone participated in Gateway Voyage or any other workshop in the Monroe Institute.
What are pros and cons to it?

Thanks a lot

Maks
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2007 at 10:18am
 
I did the Gateway voyage last year, and found it an exceptionally profound experience because it for the first time opened me to explicit internal communication and experience.

There is inevitably some variability in outcomes for people depending on where they are on the path, and presumably also on the arrangements for your specific course.

My personal view is that  it's the real deal....
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2007 at 9:03pm
 
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I did the Gateway voyage last year, and found it an exceptionally profound experience because it for the first time opened me to explicit internal communication and experience.

There is inevitably some variability in outcomes for people depending on where they are on the path, and presumably also on the arrangements for your specific course.

My personal view is that  it's the real deal....


Thank you vajra for your reply and help.
My confusion come from the fact that the Gateway Voyage and Lifeline programs at the Monroe Istitute are combined in Bruce's tapes. Do I miss something very important here?

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Maks
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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2007 at 1:54am
 
At TMI of course you listen to HemiSync. Although it seems not to be necessary, for some people nevertheless it might be helpful.
Another thing is staying a week with a group of similar interests in a lovely surrounding. This is something not to underestimate- it is just different than doing it on your own.
To me the Gateway Voyage (not done at the institutes' facility, but in a, as well, lovely place in Europe) was a real lifechanger. Bruce's Guidebook I read after it, so I cannot say what had happened if I had read Bruce's book first.

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Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 11:55am
 
Maks,

I participated in Gateway Voyage and I must say that is was a profound experience. The training was extraordinary in itself, but the connections and the friendships formed at TMI last a lifetime(s).

Interestingly, each individual takes from TMI a completely individualized experience, though it occurs in a context of group exercises and contacts. The pros and cons would be highly invidualized as well.

I hesitated often in thinking about going to TMI, but I received my own guidance that told me that I would go within six months. I doubted, thought about the money involved, which I was assured would arrive. It did and I attended TMI.

Blessing,
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Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 3:59pm
 
I went this past Dec/06. Never have I expeienced such a life changing and had such profound moments happin. I met the "All". The PUL was of such an intensity that I cried for hours. I'm 48 and haden't cried for years. I was told the meaning of life by the "All" and I will never be the same. Meeting my true "Lord" has changed the essence of me so much. I can only hope to replicate its significance to you by attaching some of the emotion and love I felt to this post. I would be pleased if you picked up on some of it. I most likly can not put it into words.

My love to all of you.

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Reply #6 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 4:54pm
 
The way my spiritual path is going I doubt I'll go to TMI someday. If I did go, I believe it would be nice to do so for the below reason.

[quote author=EternalEssence link=1186368861/0#4 date=1187020527]Maks,
but the connections and the friendships formed at TMI last a lifetime(s).

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Reply #7 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 4:56pm
 
Hawkeye:

More details please. Smiley

hawkeye wrote on Aug 13th, 2007 at 3:59pm:
I went this past Dec/06. Never have I expeienced such a life changing and had such profound moments happin. I met the "All". The PUL was of such an intensity that I cried for hours. I'm 48 and haden't cried for years. I was told the meaning of life by the "All" and I will never be the same. Meeting my true "Lord" has changed the essence of me so much. I can only hope to replicate its significance to you by attaching some of the emotion and love I felt to this post. I would be pleased if you picked up on some of it. I most likly can not put it into words.

My love to all of you.

Joe

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Reply #8 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 5:47pm
 
You know Recoverer, it was so cool. During an outside free flo exercise that we were instructed to connect with nature. I went over the back hill behind TMI and immediately felt pulled towards a mid sized dead Oak tree. I started touching the tree and connecting spiritually with it. Sending love to it. At a point, sometime into the experience ( it could have been a second or an hour later as time had no relevance or meaning, F15?) I heard through NVC that I was "prepared to hear". There I was crouched against this Oak hearing what was for me. The tree was twisted and dead as far as my earthly being could tell. The presence communicating to me through the tree told me that it was far from what I thought of as dead. It was, and there was no death nor life. I asked about the vine that had been wrapped around it and had choked its life(?) out of it. It was explained that that had been the purpose of its existence. To die for this vine. It further went on and told me the story of life on earth and how everthing here is here to exist for another. That we must all be prepared to give the all of ourselfs to an another without expectaton of return. The story of different living things and what was to be given up was told in different scenarios. One being the wild cat and goat story from a zoo. where the cages are beside each other and every day the two of them play the game of cat and game knowing full well that the end result will never be of the cat catching the goat. I regress. There was a small vine that had started to grow up this oak again and I started to brush it away. Immediatly I was given a spritual "swift kick in the rear." Told that I had not learned the lession and to listen again. It told me that it(the oak) must have this new vine finish it off so that  its giving up of its live to the vine , it could compleat its reasion for this existence and would be able to move on. I was showen the love of this gift and felt it within every inch of my being. I was showen different scenarios of this giving. To this day I don't know how long I was beside that tree. It could have been a lifetime or a matter of seconds. The last thing I was told was to go back. Go in for our meal and to enjoy the love of what was being provided to me. (Now if you have been to TMI, you will know that the meals are some what structured and tend to repeat themselfs. The same thing every trip. Good meals, everthing you need, but I personally feel that for the price of the week the food could be better) It was pizza night. After leaving the tree and making my way back up the hill cring like I have never cried before, I got to the building. People were looking at me and I am sure I was quite the sight. All covered in dirt and leafs. Tears running down my face and having this uncontrolled sobs comming from me. One of my new close friends asked me if all was OK and I broke down again with the feeling of this PUL that had been extended to me from this "All" that spoke to me and have shared it with me. Again and again I tried to go into the dining room to eat but every time I went in, I lost it again. Finaly I got myself together and went in and sat at a silent table. The few that were left in the room took a look or two at me but allowed me to sit by myself without distraction. I got myself some pizza and salad and sat down to eat. The food was like nothing I had ever experienced before. Each mouthfull exploding in my mouth with energy and love. It took minutes to chew and swallow each bite along with long drinks of water to get them down. Me there still cring like a baby having the experience of a lifetime. Sharing this love with this energy from the food being given to me. Understanding its gift of life ond of love for me. Knowing that I am to give of myself in much the same way. Knowing that without giving of myself I will repeat again and again untill I get it right. And knowing that this may well be one of my last chances to learn this lession. Very profound. Very life changing. The love felt, and that I know I must share and give to all of you, has changed me beyond anything else. I know this may have dragged, but it is so hard to put into words. This love and this feeling. Knowing that I must be of servise to my selfs and to "All". 

My love to All of you!

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Reply #9 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 6:24pm
 
Thank you for sharing Hawkeye:

I know what's it like to cry when feeling divine love.  After such an experience, just thinking about it gets the tears going.  

I also know what it is like to eat food when in an expanded state.

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Reply #10 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 6:34pm
 
I sit here, in my little Post Office, in wonder of the love, here, shared between all of us and those whom come here to have this love shared with them. What a wonderious (sp) place to have found.
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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2007 at 8:14pm
 
Wonderful experience Hawkeye. 

Each mouthfull exploding in my mouth with energy and love. Sounds like PUL personified (wrong word) as food.

It took minutes to chew and swallow each bite along with long drinks of water to get them down.  Sounds like cardboard.

Experiences like yours are difficult to describe.  You did a great job and I understand your meaning.  I'm just teasing about the cardboard.  However, I can't help it.  When I was in high school we had to write a short horror story starting out:  "It was pizza night and ..."

I enjoy reading about your Gateway experiences.  Thanks for sharing them.

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Reply #12 - Aug 16th, 2007 at 12:14pm
 
You know Rob, when I say life changing, its like an understatement. I, personally, will never be the same. What I wrote was but a snippet of the experience itself. I highly recommend "Gateway"@ TMI.
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Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2007 at 12:33pm
 
The below makes sense. Once you know there is something beyond this World that is truly precious, how can it not make a difference?

hawkeye wrote on Aug 16th, 2007 at 12:14pm:
You know Rob, when I say life changing, its like an understatement. I, personally, will never be the same. What I wrote was but a snippet of the experience itself. I highly recommend "Gateway"@ TMI.
Joe

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Reply #14 - Aug 16th, 2007 at 1:32pm
 
Wow, I was wondering about what this was like and the course seems to get a pretty good write up here.

Hawkeye, you talked a lot about one of your experiences, and said it was very life changing. Can you say more about in what way the course changed your life, both in outlook/mental attitude and beliefs and in anything specific you changed about your life afterwards?

Did you learn anything specific to the afterlife or was the feeling of love and connectedness the main element?

Do you now think literally that everything has some specific purpose (maybe even soul?) - like the tree? (every plant... every rock...??) Or do you think your vision was meant to be understood in a more metaphorical way?
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