Through history various seers and prophets have claimed there will be some calamity or other major event (end of the world or Jesus coming back or for New Agers, the start of a new era of peace and elightenment, or perhaps open contact with aliens) on a certain date, but so far lots have come and gone with nothing special happenning. I don't see why this 2012 date should be any different

that's true 

orlando123 wrote on Aug 4^th, 2007 at 4:45am:


I'm currently reading a book called '2012' by Daniel Pinchbek. The 2012 date is specifically referring to the winter/summer solistice (depending which hemisphere you live in) the end point of the Mayan Calendar, when the earth will be in alignment with the centre of the milky way galaxy. The electro magnetic fields affect our consciousness and passing through that stage we are shifting into a fifth dimensional state of consciousness. Basically from what I've read and heard on the subject, the barriers to our true nature are gradually being removed and our true potential can be realised. The catch might be and this I believe is the reason for all the doomsday and fear based side of things, that the shift in the galactic alignment will cause natural disasters, like the Asian Tsunami of 2004.

You can choose a side though. How do you want the consciousness of the planet to be, fear or love/free choice?

Anyway that's essentially the 2012 message that I uphold. Skeptics are welcome to query and I will happily debate, as I see the reasoning behind these predictions as holding alot more water than many of the doomsday prophecies and end of the world propaganda. But just say you think you can debunk all this and think its a load of bull, aren't you missing the point? The point never really was about a set of astrological events coming together to shift the consciousness of humanity, ultimately free choice will determine any real shift in consciousness. I may be preaching a bit so sorry about that but I say choose to become part of a shift and embrace love, oneness and respect the interconnectivity don't follow the path of war and destruction.

I do not believe in ends I believe in transitions

SHIFT HAPPENS

Never say die

basically in agreement with NSD. from a psychological perspective just want to add we will always have earthquakes, storms, world changes in the Earth, these are often events the collective has brought forth and good exit points for those leaving or transitioning.

as far as the individual goes, the collective is made up of individuals. it will be whether we react or in how we respond to these changes that makes the difference.  we should be able to not just react like in fear, somebody always needs to hold the fort down. somebody always needs to keep the home fires burning. there are many working quietly behind the lines in this way, but each individual has to come to their choices where to stand.
love, alysia

I echoe Joe's sentiments here and thoughts. I like this board because I grow off of the ideas expressed, they lead me into my own world of personal reality creation.

one thing I'd like to share I learned from Alan Watts a philosopher. he said an apple tree apples, the earth peoples.

I'm not an environmentalist, more of a recycler spirit who goes around tidying up, but I'm sure there are many forces at work in our world which can destruct in order to construct to new levels, so it's all like a circle of events which is on a time table since time began.
The earth crystal in the center is an energy resonator factor and the planets are involved in this shift in consciousness as this crystal realigns with certain planets, influencing our rotations and their rotations which has to do with consciousness expanding also, as planets are the bodies of beings, I know its hard to understand this, that a planet is a being of intelligence manifested as a planet, but at the same time you could say all of us are the Earth consciousness, a being in itself.
and we are as a whole becoming more conscious of our habitat and there is rude awakenings to deal with such as 9/11. most rude. but I went obe and listened to a lecturer who made me to understand the catalyst that 9/11 was for spiritual growth and change.
it wasn't that 9/11 was written in stone to occur, its just that year after year it was building towards manifestation without enough prevention employed and thats why it became shocking and rude.

you guys should have seen the millions of "us" were listening to this fellow talk, he was sincere, he was a great being. sorry I don't have a name for him, I was just part of the audience trying to get my heart mended, and he sent healing rays to the crowd.
I was made to understand we are in the midst of big changes and a lot of these people on this board and other places all over the world as groups are to help others to make it easier to shift into a new consciousness.
it has a lot to do with fellowship instead of warring practices, and we're slowly getting there.

its important where one places one's focus, as we can manifest war just as easily as we can manifest peace, as a collective.

love, alysia