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Jul 30th, 2007 at 4:18pm
 
Why the date of 2012 that everone mentions here. Is it that Aztec calendar thing? Is is a start of the changes excepted by many as soon to be happening, or the end of the world as others have said. Any thoughts?
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Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 5:37pm
 
Calendars don't create events. Events create calendars.

There is an asteroid due to pass close to the Earth in 2013, but so far,
calculations say it will not hit, it will miss.
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Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 6:11pm
 
Joe --- see attached article re: Myan calendar for 2012

     
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
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Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 6:17pm
 
see attached article of Egyptian Calendar 2012

http://www.hermes3.net/2012.htm
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Reply #4 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 6:27pm
 
On this article, go to the NASA article about the solar flairs and 2007 to 2012

http://www.truthaboutax.com/site/1515517/page/655391
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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 7:31pm
 
Hi Identicat-
The Mayan thing is truly interesting. I had been to Palenque and poked about, but was unaware of the operation of the Mayan calendar.

Theories about pole shift abound - mine is that the ocean currents create a moving conductor in an electrostatic field due to solar wind, hence a magnetic field sensitive to the positions of ice etc, and climate variations. This seems a bit simpler than moving continents and the planet's core around. The core, while potentially magnetic, is far hotter than the Curie temperature at which the magnetic effects vanish. Thus, it may conduct, but is an unlikely source of magnetic field. However, since most of us experience magnets made of cool, rigid iron, we tend to think of the Earths core that way. It isn't.

I read Cayce's predictions, and since he was generally right about things, I kinda hoped that I'd be here to watch everything turn over from global warming. But with the threat of the Apophis asteroid, maybe returning to hit us, in whole or part, it looks like the whole universe is tuning up for a major shake and bake.
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 5:35am
 
I still like to think it is about a shift in consciousness, an evolutionary progression in our DNA. I'm reading a book by Daniel Pinchbek called '2012' which focuses on shamanism, the Mayan Calendar and human consciousness.

"There are many hints, both in quantum theory and elsewhere, that humanity is precariously balanced between greater self-potential and environmental disaster."

I think that our collective choices affect the path to where we are headed - enlightenment or disaster.
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Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 12:09pm
 
Hi Cat, I looked at the sites you provided and the first two were very good. As for the third....He seems like a bit of a fear monger. Thanks for the info. We will just have to wait and see in 2012. (PS Good luck at the new job)
Thank you Kyo also for the info.
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 9:10am
 
I purposely buy some books by just standing in from of the wacky section in bookshops and buying what my eye is drawn to  - before I can make any conscious sense of the title.

Somehow I've ended up with a series of books on 2012, including just this week Daniel Pinchbeck's 2012 as mentioned above. I've no personal sense that there's a disaster coming, but that wouldn't mean much. I like the open way he discusses his own research and experience without preaching.

I have a definite sense that there's some sort of opening taking place. Even Pinchbeck's own story describes perhaps both a personal path, and perhaps also his witnessing the beginnings of a broader opening.

His story resonates so much with my own (much more personal one) in many ways. I'm not a writer, have not experimented with interesting substances to any degree, but his path from yearning but no path to pretty much a certainty that reality is so much greater than is regarded as normal and that something is going down is so familiar. As is the list of writers he tends to draw on.

He quotes Robert Anton Wilson's 'the doors of Chapel Perilous swinging open'. (the 'oh sh1t feeling that hovers in the background when you start to realise that actually almost nothing is the way you were brought up and conditioned to think it is) That's pretty much the way it feels to me right now, whether it's the result of personal path or something more general.....

PS you have a PM Cat.
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 2:55pm
 
Hi everyone  The asteroid which is on its way is not great news as my little grandchildren will not be that old when it either hits or misses us,i hope it does miss for there sake,they need to live there life to the full.

I did not realise how much the glaciers are gaining across land and also just how much the icecaps are melting,the way things are going my little grandchildren,will be shown quite a different map of the world at school.

I now understand more now what the year 2012 actually means,the changes which may occur,only everyone thought that there was something going to happen on the milleniam but it did'nt,so theres always the possibility that 2012 will be the same.

Factorys and nuclear plants and cars,planes are all contributing to global warming,but there must be something to help change this,only that is not going to be easy,i think the best way to do it is bring the horse and carriages back,when i was a little girl Winter was winter,Summer was summer,Autumn was autumn and Spring was spring,but now all there is ,is a mixture of all four seasons into one all through the year,this planet is in a right mess and its all manmade.

I grew up in the 1960's and the world was fresher,more countryside,you could leave your back door open when you went out,everyone helped each other and most of all the air was cleaner and the wheather was what it was supposed to be,perhaps the year 2012 is meant to sort it all out.

The planet is a beautiful place in some respects and not in others but its the only one we got,so we all got to do our bit towards preventing global warming,bring back the horses and the bicycles,that would be a good start,who knows it could work,just a suggestion.

Love and God bless   Love juditha

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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 8:13pm
 
Quote Juditha: "Winter was winter,Summer was summer,Autumn was autumn and Spring was spring,but now all there is ,is a mixture of all four seasons into one all through the year"
  Same here in Germany.
Quote Juditha: "bring back the horses and the bicycles"
Instead, what they do here in Germany is not thinking about this, but build more streets. I guess when there's no green anymore to build streets, then they would build second store streets. Maybe this behaviour might change 2012, when they come to the insight that we must live somewhere when we're not sitting in a car.

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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2007 at 11:48pm
 
spooky said  Smiley we must live somewhere when we're not sitting in a car.
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u must come to california and tell the people this truth!  Smiley
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Reply #13 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 7:53am
 
hawkeye wrote on Jul 30th, 2007 at 4:18pm:
Why the date of 2012 that everone mentions here. Is it that Aztec calendar thing? Is is a start of the changes excepted by many as soon to be happening, or the end of the world as others have said. Any thoughts?


Hi Hawkeye,

I don't claim to have insight into this particular date, but it seems to me that it is almost a catalyst just because of the intrigue it is generating.

We are accelerating in a process of change, and I think these changes are going to include physical and mental breakthroughs for us as humans.

It really seems to me that we are being assisted in this from the other side.

A friend of mine whom I spontaneously called a few months ago, a very old friend from 20-25 years ago, has just started meditating with a group. I attended once with her a couple of months ago.

She now tells me that they are rapidly moving into collaborative work with a clairvoyant. This clairvoyant is moving souls with them---from her descriptions these sound like earthbound souls.

They are taking many of them directly from the battlefields in the Middle East. They are "retrieving" a lot of angry souls. They don't appear to use Bruce's language, although she called them "stuck" souls, and, from her description they are moving folks who are right in the room with them. I say this to distinguish their activities from the type of retrieval work that Bruce teaches. It just seems to be a variation, in my mind. At least, this is what I am hearing. Of course I am going to go see what is happening!

She said they are retrieving "groups" of souls together. This was when I just about flipped out. They are getting "groups" and not just individuals. This is accelerating!

Apparently, they are beginning to train others to do this. The leaders have been told that more is coming, that there will soon be many people doing this job, and that there are higher levels coming in soon for them.

I was shocked when she told me this. I had gone to one meditation session and it seemed like a very focused group, with different people learning different levels of breathing and visualization. The basic practice was a good one, and powerful.

It was at a well-to-do ex-banker's home, and his own artwork was everywhere. He had been called to start a meditation group....by Jesus.

That's how the story goes. Why should I question it?

Well, that's all I know. I just know that signs will be all around you, and will you notice them? Obviously, you will. You will be drawn into it, and you won't be able to stop this train from coming!

It's all good.
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Song lyrics all sound different to me these days than they used to. Here are a few I've been enjoying lately:

Madonna lyrics from Ray of Light

NOTHING REALLY MATTERS

When I was very young
Nothing really mattered to me
But making myself happy
I was the only one

Now that I am grown
Everything's changed
I'll never be the same
Because of you

Chorus:

Nothing really matters
Love is all we need
Everything I give you
All comes back to me

Looking at my life
It's very clear to me
I lived so selfishly
I was the only one

I realize
That nobody wins
Something is ending
And something begins

(chorus, repeat)

Nothing takes the past away
Like the future
Nothing makes the darkness go
Like the light

You're shelter from the storm
Give me comfort in your arms

RAY OF LIGHT

Zephyr in the sky at night I wonder
Do my tears of mourning sink beneath the sun
She's got herself a universe gone quickly
For the call of thunder threatens everyone

Chorus:

And I feel like I just got home
And I feel
And I feel like I just got home
And I feel

Faster than the speeding light she's flying
Trying to remember where it all began
She's got herself a little piece of heaven
Waiting for the time when Earth shall be as one

(chorus)

Quicker than a ray of light
Quicker than a ray of light
Quicker than a ray of light

(verse)

And I feel
Quicker than a ray of light
Then gone for
Someone else shall be there
Through the endless years

She's got herself a universe
She's got herself a universe
She's got herself a universe

And I feel
And I feel
And I feel like I just got home
And I feel

Quicker than a ray of light she's flying
Quicker than a ray of light I'm flying
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In Nothing Really Matters she says "nothing takes the past away like the future" and it makes me wonder? Is this how we will all collectively change our karma...

by retrieving own Selves as a species? Will the hand that takes me to heaven be my own?


love, blink Smiley
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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2007 at 2:41pm
 
wow Blink, I look for signs like this too, of groups starting up. yes, I'd say its the same thing retrievers do; retrieving is no big mystery to me, its simply a heart path and can occur on the physically incarnate as well as nonphsical beings.
when love speaks, you follow. or they follow, or love is answered.

these others are angry. they lost their lives. anyone would be angry, retrieving them to love is the only thing to do during a shift we are undergoing.
so easy to get caught up in the hype though. I'm glad you posted this. we can be hopeful then that surely the universe is unfolding as it should.

if an ex banker can be called upon for service, then any one of us could be called upon to do our part.  Smiley an acceleration. when the world gets clear of all the negs in the grid belt moved on, no longer suffering in anger and hurt, who effect those of us here in flesh, we can prepare the way for the children to heal the earth who are waiting for this clearing.
I'm in charge of daycare on the other side I think  Smiley the kids are amazing!!!
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