Warning disclaimer - please do not read further if the topic and description of violence and death would, in any way offend you.


I have been moved to rage and tears about the family in Connecticut who died this week from a home break-in.  Maybe because it was a physician's family (like mine), maybe it was seeing the photos of the young preteen smiling, and her 17 or 18-year-old sister looking forward to college.  Maybe it was the happy "normal," family photo, and the injustice of it all.  Their lives were shattered during a 3 AM break-in.  The father was hit on the head repeatedly with a baseball bat.  The daughters were tied up and raped, while the mother was forced to withdraw money.  Afterwhich, it appears the mother was killed, and the house set on fire, killing the girls, still tied up.  The father was hospitalized with severe head injuries.

I think of those women who passed, what they endured and I wonder.  Your state of mind takes you into the afterlife.  Initially they must have felt fear, panic and rage.  The loss of the promise of earthly dreams, when they realized they were dead.  Can they quickly retain the same normal basic sense of awareness they had before this violence?  Does such a quick and violent event and death prevent spiritual advancement or growth in otherwise normal and sane people?

I'm not sure if a retrieval would be helpful.  I don't know how or if I would have the state of mind to be able to do one, in any case. 

The question, I suppose is, if we spend our lives living, and loving, and learning in the physical world, but some abomination like this occurs, is there a quick spiritual recovery?  My hope is that, when helped by others after passing on, that the initial psychic trauma would fade, and they would be basically the same good people they were before the event happened. 

Doc

To answer directly, Doc, the quick solution is to forgive and restore love.

I recall a woman with severe arthritis plus severe fibromyalgia (all 18 tender points etc - none of this minor aches and pains stuff like I have). She asked why she had been selected by God to have these afflictions. n regression she found that she had been a young girl, kidnapped, tied up in a barn and used as a sexual toy by a group o men, finally starving to death. Her pain was caused by recollections of her agony, anchored by intense hatred and rage.

Eventually, I asked whether she had ever dne anything of the same type to anyone else, and she abruptly recaled that previously she had been the perpetrator. In her specific case, she could feel only slight compassion for those who had harmed her,  and left without resolution - whichis her priviledge.

The basic traumatic response mechanism is (1) I hurt and it's "your" fault. (2) To blame you I have to remember the pain, and I anchor that with hatred of "you". (3) I change my personality, my muscle tone and my physical posture o incorporate these tensions. (4) My body hurts because of what it is experiencing, and that gives me pain. I think I will feel better if I can bame "you". (1) back to step one.

When you untwist people and relax long term cramps and such, this kind of thing is very often the cause - although it might be so deeply buried and surrounded by present time brush fires that it might not be visible. However, the retrieval process for a disembodied soul, or direct regression if they're still in the flesh, allows you to help release the pain of the event and forgive.

There is a myth that forgiveness is weakness. In fact, to forgive sets us free from the after effects of the event - it's a specific for post traumatic stress syndrome. The perpetrators etc are thus shut out and their influence barred from having further effects.

I fully understand your sense of horror at the event. Juditha's alien spook who brought the asmell of vomit is to the point. However, as a healing professional your salvation is to keep in mind that you represent the solution, not the problem, and that anything you do, no matter how little, will ease pain.  This doesn't change history, but it salvages the present, even after death. And the other thing I teach, when I'm doing the training for psychoanalysts in my clinic, is to allow your office door to close when you go home. That includes such cases. Then, when it's time, put on the healing hat and deal with them. Otherwise your compassion will drive you bonkers with the wretchedness of the human situation.

Incidently, I'm about a psychic as a large rock, so I do retrievals poorly. Instead I do regression work, it's all the same. Techniques are the same too. The only real difference is that I've never had a spirit pay for my time.

PUL
dave

Doc:

I believe things are worked out so spirits with special needs are met. For example, while helping with retrievels, my energetic level is adjusted in different ways so that a stuck spirit first sees an energetic level that reflects its state of mind, and then it sees my connection to the light.

My feeling is that spirits who don't want to change, are the spirits who have difficulty crossing over. You can't help someone if they don't want to be helped. The people who got killed probably wanted to be helped.  Plus, it is also possible they experienced what some NDE people experience, and crossed over right away.

I saw that one of the daughter's who got raped was really young.  It hard to imagine that friendly spirits aren't taking care of her.

What I responded to was your own statement that you had been moved to rage and tears.  Evidently missed the point. Sorry. For us as professional healers, our job requires us to keep in mind that this is God acting upon God at the level of individuals, and that equanimity can be restored. That handles the rage and tears (or most of it - I still have a pretty strong opinion as well when I am working with people molested as infants etc).

Those who are involved in what seem to us as senseless acts are always there because of something necessary that we simply have no access to. They can, if they are willing, realize those conditions and release them, along with gaining the rest of the truth about how reality works, at the moment of death. But it seems so much easier to cling to rage and hatred that they often do not release their prior entanglements. That's job security for me, and for others in the healing arts.

In a pragmatic sense, I get the impresson that until someone is willing to accept being victimized, and then is willing to accept forgiveness for their tormentor, it is possible for destructiveness can go back and forth for many generations. I cited a case in which the woman was in denial of her responsibility for becoming a victim. This is very common.

If I had the option of being the victims or the victees, I'd rather be the victims, because I couldn't stand being responsible for what those two men did, nor would I want to have to go through the spiritual work they have to go through.

The victims on the other hand, they might need some psychological healing, but you can never hurt the spirits they are.

Hi Matthew There are so many bad things in this world and if only it could all stop and everyone could love one another,what a wonderful world it would be then.

I read this book once written by Doris stokes ,who was a very loving and genuine medium and she said that when anyone suffers a violent death, they are in a spirit hospital in the spirit world and are visited by there loved ones,who have passed before them and also they are put in soothing chambers were beautiful music and much peace is around them and also spirit helpers who talk to them and try and help them come to terms of there violent death and also being made to realise they are in the spirit world,they are given much love and help as when sometimes someone passes because of violent death,they need that bit more love and help.And they are gradually made well again and then they join there loved ones.

Love and God bless      Love juditha

I have been near to hell or one of its implmentations.

I motioned away from it but was nudged back to look by another intention who knew I should observe it for my own good, and rightly so.

It is behond bearable and I am not sure of its length for the party involved.

It is soild and iron, i guess maybe this is the starting point or the source, it is to much to face, to go back to.


When you walk around and do your tasks it is like being at the end of a diving board. You naturally stand at the back the start, really we are very far out with lots of chance to do bad against our record or mert/karma.

But the other side is the plus side, love and good for us and others, it with easy outweighs this calulation or implmentation.

You are lucky to be far out, it is given to you in trust that you understand, from what i can work out you did (we) understand and kind of pledge at the start, some people can remember that, I kind of can, the moment when I showed my being and was forced into being.

I was very very ill when I was younger and I dreamed of this part of me, my have never been thtat ill in my life.

Its all too much for me really.. being honest here, I need a break to settle myself and start again each day needs a month to reflect on.

I am nothing and that is the way I will be be for one thousand more life times but at least in this life time I will not kill any body and will take ....

I will try, it accounts for nothing but I agree to agree and if some body can see sense and then do the action required willingly with intention.,That it is for joy and right.

Then there maybe a chance. that a master can lead us.

As I write this I am thinking about the differnce between the normal us and the enlighten beings or even close to it, it is such a difference, a difference in terms of weight as I am a ton and a buddha is a feather.


There is only awareness and good finally, ultimatly those in charge deserve their position there is no evil only the truth.

There are tools and methods to remind those who need reminding and fixing, fixing is too strong a word but were the water goes it goes.

Im just getting my head down and doing it (life) at the end Ill be where ill be ,it wont be perfect but to be perfect means to be perfect Ill leave that to others who have been more honest than I.

I dont have any thing more to say, thankfully there will always be the path always.

bud

Matthew,

Of course, as you know, the postmortem plight of the famiily would be affected by their spiritual development and belief systems.  I would simply observe that hauntings and poltergeist activity often seem to manifest the presence of discarnate spirits who were victims of a crime or a violent sudden death.  These manifestations raise the question of whether the victims are "stuck" in some way between "worlds."  Perhaps the shock of the trauma creates an unhealthy obsession with the scene of the crime and a long-lingering phase during which the discarnate soul has trouble processing and accepting that they are indeed dead.

You will recall Leonard's dramatic experience of being chauffeured around by his recently deceased son Jeff in the latter's pick-up truck.  Jeff, his wife, and his two children had just been killed in a small plane crash.  The next day, a still grieving Leonard was confronted by Jeff's late wife Karen on a path in the woods behind his country home.  The question inevitably arises as to why such spectactular verifcations are so rere.  A sudden violent exit may create a trauma that temporarily cements our thought processes to an earthbound mentality and thus delays our progress, while at the same time retaining an intense attunement to the earth plane that enhances the possiblities of ADC communication.

OBE adepts like Bob Monroe and Robert Bruce independently report visits to a Healing Center in what seems like Paradise.  Sudden and unexpected violent exits from the earth plane might create a special urgency for an extensive postmortem convalescence program.  I suspect that this program is very temporary.

Don