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sylvia browne is proven a fraud
Jul 23rd, 2007 at 3:32am
 
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i do believe in psychics, but she is taking advantage of people to make big money.  she always struck me as a phony totally making things up, and now it's proven.  to sit there and lie to grieving people is really disgusting.
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Reply #1 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 7:41am
 
I'II tell you one thing that stands out to me, she seems to not have any compassion. The real problem when your tapping into someone is you have to sink your energy into theres. This is the only way you can fully connect with another, and from this sinking into there energy you then are able to link up to there life line. Its difficult work very taxing and not for me.

I personally wouldn't want to judge her, we all make mistakes and you and I are not privy to the contractual agreements made through the higher planes, all is how it is so the soul can learn. I wish sometimes things could be made easier but we are such hard headed fools when it comes to learning our lessons.

I hope you don't want to judge all psychic by what Sylvia has brought through, for there are ones who have true gifts, they come in all shapes and form. And many of them work for the greatest good of humanity.
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 8:45am
 
That's a big problem for me, that so many "psychics" are frauds. But I choose to believe that there are genuine psychics out there nonetheless. A psychic I know once told me that I would live to be old, and that I would NOT be struck with alzheimer's. I guess that in itself is just about the awesomest message one can get, haha. Too bad I'm such a skeptic.

Anyhoo, aside from ordering Bruce's CD's and books, I'd like to try his method of finding out details about dead people via mediums and confirm them. I suppose the only thing stopping me is money...and a slight fear that I won't get any answers.
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 12:12pm
 
well the book the afterlife experiments seems to prove that at least some psychics are quite amazing.  the problem is, how do you know which ones are real?
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 12:54pm
 
There will always be those who attempt to cheat and steal your money or your mind. I think there are many fakes out there but there are also the proven. Take Joseph McMoneagle for instance. Even the goverment has certifies his abilities.
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 3:19pm
 
Hi a true medium on a private sitting will always say to you"Dont tell me anything ,let me tell you"as when i and deanna had a private sitting with Stephen who is a medium,this is what he said to us as soon as we walked in and he was spot on,he told us so many things from communicating with our dad,that only we could have known and stephen could not have known without hearing it from dad.

Sylvia should not have said that sean that young man who had been kidnapped had died,as she could no way have been told this by spirit as spirit never lie,i admit i have doubts whenever i tune with spirit ,but that is down to my confidence which i dont have much of in myself,but everything i receive is written word for word as spirit give it to me,which is what i was taught in circle ,which was "Dont change or put it how you would like it and always give excactly what you receive,even if it does not sound right to you,it will mean something to who you are giving it to from spirit.

I dont beleive in chargeing money for sittings or readings as i feel that physcic is a gift from God given freely and not to be payed for but thats my own personal way of how i see it.

I dont know if sylvia is a complete fraud but i do know this ,that if she does lie and she has,it goes against everything ive been taught at the spiritualist church.

Love and God bless  Love juditha
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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 4:01pm
 
My wife likes Sylvia, I have no opinion. But if it brings people to think in a more spiritual manner, there's great benefit in what she is doing.  As for being a "fraud", if you were to recognize the ultimate truth, you'd discover that this entire world is nothing but a dream anyhow, and that our opinion of what is going on is only an opinion - and not the ultimate truth in any manner. So when we wake in the morning we start off as actors in a dream and ascribe "ultimate reality" to the dream - which is a far more insidious perversion.

Looked at in this manner, it might be more useful to notice that what we hear from Juditha is in global agreement with ideas of a much higher level than street conversation, which doesn't mean that people who interact on a lower level are to be despised. Just notice that Sylvia fits well into her own circle of supporters on her own level. One man's flower is another man's weed. And in my part of California, near the artichoke fields of Monterey, one man's superb dinner is another man's thistle. Take your choice.

Or is it more fun to be a spiritual snob today?   Wink

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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 7:29pm
 
dave - watch those videos and you will see there is nothing remotely spiritual about what sylvia does - unless lying for money is spiritual...  it has nothing to do with being a snob.  i'm just telling the truth.  is it being a snob to call hitler a murderer? no, it's just telling the truth.  i trust that people like bruce moen are telling the truth as they see it, and if they're lying just to sell books, they're no better than a flat-out thief.  and make no mistake - there is a lot of money to be made in this psychic "business."  luxurious cruises, tv shows and book deals...   being a true psychic is a sacred trust

also just like one bad cop or soldier makes all of them look bad, she is making all real psychics look bad
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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2007 at 12:58am
 
Honestly, I'm not too sure that she isn't telling it the way she sees it. Or is that far too scathing?

I recall a well known therapist and teacher whose primary motivation seems to summed up by singing about money and how she likes to get more of it. Just because the rest of us see it differently and wonder how banal and crass such people might be, that's no reason to doubt that they're doing what they personally feel is appropriate. In fact, it might be a kindness in many cases to give people the benefit of the doubt and criticize them as liars - but maybe what they say is how they see it.

Boy! I'm sure glad that I'm not one of those ... or should I spend a few minutes looking in a mirror?  Tongue

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Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2007 at 1:59am
 
John Edward is personally my favorite psychic. Many people think he's a fraud, but if you read his book One Last Time you'll quickly see that isn't true. He believes in what he does, anyway.
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