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Reply #15 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 2:00am
 
still Spooky all your talcum is uniform sizes and looks like talcum.

and even if most orbs were dust particles in the air, this would not explain a great amount of photos I have seen of hands, faces, half forms, etc, clouds of etheric matter, it also does not explain how I perceived myself as an orb bouncing along the highway without my arms and legs. I'm sorry, it was real. not a dream.
also there are some orbs which zip by a person at great speeds, these can be photographed also on video and have been. many folks have reported orbs moving outside their window also. something that moves, not floating, but having intelligence connected to it is what u find on the videos.  research some of this documented orb business if any are interested...its truly amazing and photography of this sort is a valid science to pursue, and like I said, theres always a bit of fire where u find some smoke.
ooouuu...twilight zone..we are not alone and never were and our cameras are digital now, more sensitive...years ago, we didn't have digital cameras for the most part.

also why is there no dust on my lens, in my kitchen and in my 2 bedrooms, when I live in those other rooms too, there was only orbs in my living room where I requested help with my book writing.
all my picture taking was on the same time, there should have been orbs in the other rooms as well if they were just dust.

Spooky, that reminds me of that song dust in the wind..haha!
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Reply #16 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 3:52pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Jul 10th, 2007 at 2:00am:
also why is there no dust on my lens, in my kitchen and in my 2 bedrooms, when I live in those other rooms too, there was only orbs in my living room where I requested help with my book writing.
all my picture taking was on the same time, there should have been orbs in the other rooms as well if they were just dust.

Spooky, that reminds me of that song dust in the wind..haha!
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Well, it may be strange that there wasn't any orbs in the bedroom, as that tends to be the dustiest place, at least at my home. How was the lighting in the different rooms?

Dust in the Wind, that's Kansas, right? If so, that song is great.

And sorry if I'm skeptical, but I made a promise over one year ago that I would never delude myself again, and as such I am reluctant to believe in [insert most anything here].

Edit: Oh, and you can certainly not call me Dutch, haha. Call me Richard, that's my middle name. Smiley
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Reply #17 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:03pm
 
glad to meet you Richard. I don't know who did the song, I just remember feeling like dust in the wind and how much that sucked but I thought there was some truth to it.
the light was an overhead light in the kitchen, and 100 watt and a 60 watt together possibly but dim enough that orbs could show up if they wanted. the bedroom was the same filtered sunlight as the living room, there was an orange room also, a perfect backdrop to orb activity to place itself on the wall if they wanted, no furniture in that room either. they didn't want.
it's interesting to see orbs in complete darkness also as we have seen here, I would think the lighting had something to do with it, but apparently not.

I found in Seattle, I had a few orbs attached to the house, this in full sunlight but basically indoor was where they stayed, bright sunlight does not seem conducive to see them well but if you look closely they are there.

I forgot some details to tell u guys...remember I would talk to guides when I was asking help to edit my book. editing was painful because you think always you have a masterpiece, but I would hear voices saying, no, its not good enough yet, you have to cut 150 pages,  blah, blah, yada yada..I told the spirits at one time to GET OFF MY BUTT!

hahaha! Grin  well, thats the rest of the story about the orb which landed on my butt when I told it to wait until I was in position and be over my head, and please to be large and unmistakable, so I could share the photo, etc. then they started to make me laugh, some of the things they said to me about the editing process...it wasn't a book I edited, it was my soul I edited. so my daughter snapped the photo of the orb on the butt then when I faced the wall, there was no orb in the wall shot I had asked for, then I knew, they were being funny again, always trying to get me to lighten up in this process of editing, not cry so much, etc.
I thought I was a good writer, and they essentially had to show me I was not that. so humor is very instructive and then they gave me the name laughing rain, which we had a big fight over that too. Smiley

its good not to be deluded, would just suggest that research and open minded approach is best in these studies, and a certain amount of trusting your heart, your intuition.
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Reply #18 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:59pm
 
Nope--- I didn't have my flash on when I was in or out as outside was too dark and the shot was too far away to have any benefit from the flash.  And, the inside pictures were without the flash because the room had windows on three sides and there was plenty of light.   And I didn't use baby powder, either!!!  Grin
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Reply #19 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 8:04pm
 
Spooky:

I believe the below is a good idea. I've seen a lot of spirits, and there have been a limited number of times where they have appeared as orbs, and they didn't look like the orbs that appear in photographs.

There is also the issue of why would a photo have to be taken in order for orbs to be seen. The orbs I've seen were seen without photographs.  If a photo was taken, chances are they wouldn't show up on a photograph.

spooky2 wrote on Jul 9th, 2007 at 11:18pm:
People, a motto of Bruce is go and find out for yourself. Take a bit talcum powder (works best) or dusty clothes (works not so good, but more variety of the orbs), spread the powder/dust near in front of the camera and take a shot with the camera's flashlight on. Looks exactly like all the other orb pictures, with varieties of size and brightness of the orbs etc. I could upload hundreds of those pictures, but you can do it for yourself.

All these picture are taken with camera flashlight on, aren't they?

The dust is not ON the lens but in the air in front of the camera.
You wouldn't notice the dust because the flashlight flashes not all the time.

If meaningful patterns would be visible, or an orb that stays at the same place (without being something on the lens) then it would be interesting, but I don't see something like that.

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Reply #20 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 10:49pm
 
I believe that some photos may have changes that are unexplained from dust in the physical world, but many, many photos have dust, invisible to the naked eye, but quite visible to the discerning camera lens.  There are websites which reproduce these nicely. 

The question is, on any given photo, what is explained by a phenomenon in the physical world, and what is not?  One can ask this question about EVP, voice recordings of spirits impressed on a background of white noise.  I have heard impressive EVP recordings where no rational explanation can be made for the voices other than a communication by spirits.  

Ultimately, no one will "prove" the dust theory or the spirit theory.  It has been my belief that those who hunt for spirits as little physical circles of light in our world are missing the point.  The dimension of thought is not bound by or encased in a physical body anymore.  So why should we search for spiritual beings in the physical plane?  Not sure of the answer, other than validation.  But Bruce and others encourage us to search out spiritual thought beings in their own sphere.

Either way, they are impressive photos, and stimulate a lot of discussion and thought.

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Reply #21 - Jul 10th, 2007 at 11:37pm
 
hi Doc, I was thinking about you. to me when I think about a person on this board pops up in my mind, then I know we are all connected, somehow out there, or in here. lol. I have tracking device installed Grin

anyhoo, thanks for bringing us all together on a higher thought that we are basically wasting time to look for physical indication of spirits, NP's.
I believe the underlying question would be concerning newbies or lurkers who have never had a brush with the spirit world, therefore they may have no grounding paradigm whatsoever that we continue after death.

I remember being 18 and in the same quandary; I want everyone if possible and to gracefully come across this question to settle, but I know you are right, chasing orbs is not going to do the trick. Smiley

I would suggest and I repeat myself, the spirit world is trying to get through to any who opens the door, and who has the courage to open the door, the persistance, or even the desire to understand we are more than physical beings, and we are all greatly loved and applauded for even stepping into the earth plane. its not easy being us.... Smiley

thanks again, my goodness, I love the way you talk.. Smiley
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Reply #22 - Jul 11th, 2007 at 5:20am
 
Without camera flashlight identcat, I'm surprised indeed.

Only these two, then I shut up! I shook some dusty clothes. I see a smileyorb on the first pic, the low orb before the window (use the scroll bar).
(btw, I wasn't on drugs!)

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Reply #23 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 8:53am
 
OK,  Cheesy

I'll have to accept that

  some dust motes have smiley faces
  Spooky wasn't on drugs, it was just late at night

but Spooky,

why is a giant red false fingernail stuck next to the door handle?!
Was a giant lady trying to get out so fast that she left it there?

Just wonderring,
Bets   Smiley




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Reply #24 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 4:21pm
 
Lol Bets, it's a plastic hook glued onto the wall. This thing sticks there for ten years or more and I've never used it.

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Reply #25 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 5:03pm
 
identcat wrote on Jul 10th, 2007 at 5:59pm:
Nope--- I didn't have my flash on when I was in or out as outside was too dark and the shot was too far away to have any benefit from the flash.  And, the inside pictures were without the flash because the room had windows on three sides and there was plenty of light.   And I didn't use baby powder, either!!!  Grin


No flash and still orbs? That's more interesting. Are these pictures of yours anywhere on the forums, or can we see them?
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Reply #26 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:44pm
 
Thanks Juditha for helping in posting the pics. As you can see in some of then, we were all sitting around and were not kicking up dust to make a "Orb" pic. These and many more were shot without using powders, extra lights , or any other means to deceive. In fact when Wouter Velthuis took these pictures, not me, there were a number of people who were watching including myself. The picture I really wanted to have showen you , I can't find at this moment. It was also one of Wouter's and is most amaxing. I will see if I can get ahold of him so everone can see it. Perhaps Carol Ann has it.(?) Doc had the most profound comment in my view regarding the stimulation of thoughts and ideas via discussion. (not verbatim) I am happy to have had the opportunity to shair with you. As for the comments saying that the orbs are not a reflection of the spiritual, well that nagativity can be seen in many ways. I see it more as an inability or just not ready to except this reality. One day, everone will know.
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Reply #27 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:54pm
 
Hawkeye:

Going by the photo, there were at least seven people in the room. Did any of these people report seeing an orb before a photo was taken? The orbs I've seen without the assistance of a photo, didn't look like they could be the result of a photographic effect. Certainly I was ready to accept their reality when I saw them. A person isn't being negative because he or she tries to be honest about something.  To suggest such a thing is to suggest that a person doesn't have the right to exercise his or her discrimination.


hawkeye wrote on Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:44pm:
Thanks Juditha for helping in posting the pics. As you can see in some of then, we were all sitting around and were not kicking up dust to make a "Orb" pic. These and many more were shot without using powders, extra lights , or any other means to deceive. In fact when Wouter Velthuis took these pictures, not me, there were a number of people who were watching including myself. The picture I really wanted to have showen you , I can't find at this moment. It was also one of Wouter's and is most amaxing. I will see if I can get ahold of him so everone can see it. Perhaps Carol Ann has it.(?) Doc had the most profound comment in my view regarding the stimulation of thoughts and ideas via discussion. (not verbatim) I am happy to have had the opportunity to shair with you. As for the comments saying that the orbs are not a reflection of the spiritual, well that nagativity can be seen in many ways. I see it more as an inability or just not ready to except this reality. One day, everone will know.  

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Reply #28 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 1:17pm
 
Your so right Recoverer, my apologies if I offended any one. What I ment by negative was more in line with being more un-excepted reality. (is that a word?) Everone has the right to exercise the discrimination in all of their beliefs. I would never intend to force my realities upon any being. All I can do is put them out there and see what happins. I know there are a number of others who believe strongly that these orbs are something, rather than nothing. I personally have never made distinction of what I believe them to be. I really don't know. One thing I do know... curiosity drives me to ask.
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Reply #29 - Jul 13th, 2007 at 1:31pm
 
Hawkeye:

Thank you for such a positive response.  I figure my scepticism turns people off at times.

Regardless of what the truth of the photo orb matter is (despite how it seems, I haven't come to a final conclusion), I believe that we all have spirit friends we are connected to. I look forward to someday finding out how many things I have been right about, and how many things I have been wrong about.


hawkeye wrote on Jul 13th, 2007 at 1:17pm:
Your so right Recoverer, my apologies if I offended any one. What I ment by negative was more in line with being more un-excepted reality. (is that a word?) Everone has the right to exercise the discrimination in all of their beliefs. I would never intend to force my realities upon any being. All I can do is put them out there and see what happins. I know there are a number of others who believe strongly that these orbs are something, rather than nothing. I personally have never made distinction of what I believe them to be. I really don't know. One thing I do know... curiosity drives me to ask.

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