Haha, nice one.

Good one, Juditha --and google.

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Groan! 

(I had to sign in just for that.)

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hahaha!!! Thanks for the Laugh Juditha!   

That's amusing.

Science cannot observe the spirit world, all scientists can do is observe and repeat things in the physical world to see if it's real and make useful predictions. I spent many years in science classes at school, and science was one of my favorite subjects. Am I a scientist? I guess so... and I do believe in the spirit world.

I guess there's no problem with science of itself. Tangible physical reality is a part of the much greater reality and we live in and so we need to understand and be able to draw on it to survive.

The issues arise out of  modern science insisting on reductionism (that you can only understand things by breaking them down into their component parts) and mostly disregarding holism (the fact that everything is a part of a great integrated network which must be understood too - if only because as we have increasingly found there's no such thing as a free lunch, that our scientific 'advances'  often prove to have negative consequences as they reverberate through the network) ; on third party observation (that only that  which is repeatable and external to the observer is admissible, thus rling out all inner experience), and on entertaining only the  extremely narrow view of reality which follows from this.

Maybe the worst issue of all is the ignorant (unconscious and unknowing) self interest driven blindness, greed, arrogance and hubris of  many scientists and the resulting culture and its alliance with commercial interests which tends to undertake only research that fits the paradigm, and to attack those whose work questions it.

And to wheel powerful technologies into use without allowing any meaningful public debate on what their true implications may be - nuclear power, genetic re-engineering, widespread use of electromagnetic field emitting devices, fertilisers/pesticides, synthetic chemicals/materials, food additives, fossil fuels, weaponry. The list goes on - we live in what is probably the largest mass experiment the world has ever seen.

Ken Wilber is interesting on the topic of 'joined up thinking', in say 'A Brief History of Everything' which is a very nice take on the total picture of reality and how it hangs together....

science is a wonderful thing, but unfortunately many scientists are blind... or "dumb" 

if they could just get past their biases, maybe they would believe.  but it's like racism..  people have a belief and no evidence to the contrary can change it.