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Mathematics & the Solstice (Read 7401 times)
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Reply #15 - Jun 29th, 2007 at 6:26am
 
I Kant say nuting!

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Now- haven't we known this all the time already?
  But it's still great to discuss it least we forget!

Ultimate free lunch  Smiley  Macdonalds or a banquet?!

My minds got a bit of snow freeze at the mo so i think i'll just contemplate nothing ..  0+0=0  Cheesy 

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Reply #16 - Jun 30th, 2007 at 3:49pm
 
OK Caryn,

0 + 0 = 0.

0 means "nothing".  And in this case, the other symbols simply relate it to itself in a trivial, but very valid manner.

As a result, that statement is true, therefor it has a valid and well defined logical existence.
The symbolic expression did not exist before you wrote it. I does exist now that you have written it.
So you have just created something out of nothing.

This also happens to be part of the nature of the Big Creator that we call God.

D'You want onions and pickles with your free lunch?

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Reply #17 - Jul 2nd, 2007 at 9:31am
 
Smiley Hey well honestly i'll eat anything im not fussy as long as it's tasty - always think its the company which makes a good meal .. not to mention the wine!

Here is another application of mathematics which never ceases to amaze me how wonderful Creation is - I wonder if this is what Plato was also teaching  Roll Eyes also I wonder what the name for this application of math is called .. the Golden Ratio maybe?  (sorry it is a bit long - long calculation in a short space!)

From Rudolf Steiner's : Man's Position in the Cosmic Whole, the Platonic World-Year

The vernal point must travel along the whole Zodiac and it will then return to its point of departure. The time required for this will be about 25,920 years. These 25,920 years are also designated as the so-called PLATONIC YEAR.

Thus, the platonic year is a year of great duration. It embraces the time employed by the vernal point, by the point where the sun rises in the spring, to travel through the Zodiac. The time during which the sun's rising point has once more returned to its point of departure consequently embraces 25,920 years.

Thus we may say: These 25,920 years are most important for the life of the sun, because during that period the sun's life passes through a unity, through a real unity, a complete whole. The next 25,920 years are a repetition. Thus we obtain a rhythmic repetition of this unity, consisting of 25,920 years.

After having considered this great world-year, let us now consider something which is quite small and is intimately connected with our life between birth and death.

Let us consider this, to begin with. Undoubtedly, a respiration, consisting of one inspiration and of one expiration, is most important for our life within a physical body based upon the fact that the breath is drawn in and that it is sent out again. If our respiratory process were to be interrupted, we would not be able to live, physically.

On the average, a human being breathes 18 times a minute. This may, of course, vary, for our breathing is different in our youth, and in old age, but if we take an average, we obtain as a normal figure for the respiration, 18 breaths a minute. We thus renew our life rhythmically 18 times a minute. Let us now see how often we do this in one day.

In one hour this would be equal to 18 x 60 = 1080. In 24 hours: 1080 x 24 = 25,920, that is to say, 25,920 times.

You see, the way in which our life takes its course in one day, has a most peculiar rhythm. If we take one respiration as a unity, as a life-unity, this is very significant for us, since our life is maintained by the rhythmical repetition of the respiration. One day gives us exactly the same number of respiratory rhythms, as the number of years which the sun employs in order to lead back its vernal point to its point of departure.

That is to say: if we imagine that one respiration is one year in miniature, we pass through one platonic year in miniature, so that in one day we have a reproduction, a microcosmic reproduction, of one platonic year. This is extremely important, for it shows us that our respiratory process, that is to say, something which takes place within our human being, is subjected to the same rhythm — differing only in time — as the rhythm which, on a large scale, lies at the foundation of the rhythm of the sun's course.

Now we might say: Something, therefore, breathes within us, yet it is another kind of breathing, it is something which rises and falls ... it breathes within us in the course of one day, in the same way in which something breathes within us during the 18th part of a minute.

Let us now see if that which breathes within us in the course of one day, if the rising and falling of our etheric body, which thus breathes within us, also sets forth something which resembles a circular movement, a return to a point of departure. In that case, we would have to investigate what 25,920 days really are. For 25,920 of these breaths, in which the etheric rises and falls, would have to correspond, in their rise and fall, to a reproduction of the platonic year. Just as one day corresponds to 25,920 respirations, so 25,920 days should also correspond to something in human life. How many years are 25, 920 days? Let us see.

Let us take the year with an average of 365¼ days, let us make a division and then we shall obtain as a result of the division 25,920 ÷ 365.25 = about 71

About 71 years, which is the average duration of human. Life. Of course, the human being has his freedom and frequently he may grow much older.  Thus you have the duration of human life equal to 25,920 days, 25,920 of such great breaths! Once more, we obtain a cycle which reproduces microcosmically in a wonderful way the macrocosmic happenings. Thus we may say: If we live one day, we reproduce the platonic world-year with our 25,920 respirations; if we live 71 years, we again reproduce the platonic year with 25,920 great breaths, with the rising and falling pertaining to our waking up and our falling asleep.

In respect to the earth, the duration of our life may now be considered as one day of a living being, that draws its breath during the course of one day and of one night, not during the 18th part of a minute. For such a Being, 70 years would be equal to one day; in 70 years it would live through one of its days. And the changes of day and night, in the ordinary sense are the respiration of that Being.

Let us now try to see if it is possible to speak of a similar breathing process when we place ourselves within the whole platonic year of the sun. In that case, we would have 25,920 years. Let us now consider these 25,920 years as ONE year and investigate its relationship to one day.

If we wish to consider the whole platonic year as one year and if we then wish to discover what would constitute one of its days, we would have to divide it by 365¼, and this would give us one day. If the whole represents one year and if we then divide it by 365¼, we obtain ONE day. Let us see what result we reach when we divide 25,920 years by 365¼. We obtain 71 years, which is the duration of a human life.

In other words: the duration of a human life is equal to one day within the whole platonic year. In relation with the length of a human life, a whole platonic year may therefore be considered in such a way that we ourselves, as physical beings that pass through the length of our human life, are breathed out by that which is active within a whole platonic year, and in that case, 71 years, considered as ONE DAY, would correspond to one breath of that Being who passes through the platonic year.


Im sure you have come across this mathematics - interesting don't you think!

Great day erm or great platonic year!
C.

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Reply #18 - Jul 2nd, 2007 at 3:23pm
 
Based on that, I'll be dead in 14 months. Wait a couple years and I'll give you my opinion - if I still can.

Since you started with nothing, {0}, and then evolved a valid statement, {0+0=0}, notice that that statement is related to the initial zero. {0 <relates to> "0+0=0"} Now we have two things generated in the universe you started. We can relate them together some more - pick your ways, Platonic is as good as any - and populate the universe with a potentially infinite array of similar valid statements.

Every statement relates to every other one in some kind of way, so if you have enough of them you can build the logical equivalent of atoms and molecules which relate to one another just as do the tables and chairs of everyday experience.

There's a theory called the "many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics" that views this type of thing as the underlying activity through which we select the worldlines that we follow through the space of potential states, as our awareness realizes the potentialities and thus turns them into experiences. The rate of propagation of the expanding collection of relationships is physically at the speed of light, of course. And its numeric rate of expansion is about 10^44 (that's ten with 44 zeros following) new concepts per second. Pretty fast.

So look out! You've started a new universe, and it's going to transport you to places yet undreamed of! Marvelous!

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Reply #19 - Jul 2nd, 2007 at 5:04pm
 
Ooops - I got side tracked. - Something that you stirred up in my mind.

If you take an image of all the Really Big Stone Pyramids in Egypt, along the Nile, and lay that outline against the sky, it matches up with the position of the stars in Orion (the three main pyramids at Giza = Orion's belt etc) as well as a lot of other major stars at a time about 15000 years back - due to the same precession of the equinoxes. A similar layout of the equinocturnal sky is visible on the ceiling in the Temple at Dendara. This period correlates well with weather patterns such as those that would erode the stones bordering the Sphinx by rain water.  Other correlates with this period include the Arizona Meteor Crater, dated at 10000-20000 years ago. There's a lot of discussion about whether Kufu et al. really built the pyramids, or whether they came from somewhere else - a previous civilization.
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Reply #20 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 6:35am
 
whoops I see i didn't log out! 


I was also thinking about the Great Pyramid mathematical structure - there is some wonderful math there. My understanding is the Pyramid was built by Noah's Son after the Flood of Atlantis.  He received a vision of the layout of the Pyramids while still on Atlantis.  It's said the Pyramid took hundreds of years to build - it must be the platonic year being as one day for the vision to continue. 

Aye well, I'll say my universe as been there along although 'tis not belong to me 'tis my home and belongs to my Father Smiley

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Reply #21 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 7:07am
 
Hi augoeidien  I think your pictures are beautiful and i love the rainbow,i always think that rainbows are from heaven.

Love and God bless    Love Juditha
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Reply #22 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 8:45am
 
Thanks Juditha, I think your picture is beautiful too  Smiley

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