[quote author=pk link=1182409482/0#0 date=1182409482]Greetings all

its been a while....I have been busy with my own journey though. I had an experience this morning which I need some help with. I woke up early morning and decided to go back to sleep. As far as I can remember I then fell asleep.

I started 'dreaming' that I was lying in bed. I started to feel someone/something gently tugging at me leg. I couldnt see him/her/it but it proceeded to gently pull me more and more from the leg and I felt my second body being pulled out. The feeling was almost like a fish nibbling at a fishing line. Eventually I was freed from my body only to return to it rather abruptly.
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this is interesting Peter, thanks for posting it. the astral or light body form is a material body however it is a finer material not seen by the physical retina.
it is attached to the physical by magnetic pull. it contains life force; it could be seen to feel a little like slipping off a tight glove that fits exactly so. I would suggest from first glance that you have a helper initiating you of your capacity to leave your body. it could also be seen as your higher mind, or higher self initiating you, and appearing as an outside force.
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I felt it again, this tugging at my leg and it loosened me once more from my body. As I left my body I slowly sank to the floor. I then rose up to the top of the bed and tried to see my physical body. It was not there...I was confused as to why it was not there. I then woke up.
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the attention of the mind if focused on the physical body will at once want to jump back into it, so it was shielded from your view, is my opinion.
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strange things:

- I was in a bunk bed in the 'dream'. I do not own one, nor have I ever owned one. The room appeared to be at least slightly different to my actual room.
  It was guiding me out ever so gently, it seemed it was trying not to scare me.
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these things can induce fright. it is natural, human nature to fear "first times" or the unknown I should say. u seem to have a very good instructor whoever it is.
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- where was my pysical body??? does the absence of it imply that this was not an out of body experience?
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no certainly not.
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I am renting my place and wonder if in the past there was a bunk bed in the room. I doubt it though because I sleep in the master bedroom. Mybe some residul astral forms I dont know.
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u might be on the right track regarding residual astral forms, it could be focus 15, a no time astral zone. the bunk beds for sure though are thought forms which could mean future or past remnants, or you could have gravitated to the field of another whom is a part of your disc and that could be their room. thats a rather advanced obe though, so I can't say for sure, but nothing is solid out there, its all in a state of flux.
keep us posted please! alysia

thats true Spooky the attention of the mind is so important what will be perceived out there. its quite possible Peter found his situation "unbelievable." so no perception of a physical body would be seen. real time zone RTZ is coined by Robert Bruce? I like that definition of an expanded physical realm.

Hi Peter, your personal descriptions are good.  I appreciate individual perspective and terminology when it comes to describing such things as OBEs because it helps us to identify with each other.  Your "fish tugging on a line" not only is a good description of what you're talking about but it also brings back memories of me fishing with my dad as a kid.  I know exactly what type of tugging sensation you mean.

Your OBE environment doesn't have to match physical reality, so just because you find inconsistencies in comparing your OBE environment to what you know of the physical doesn't mean that you are not having a true OBE.  

Any OBE experience is a non-physical experience.  And, like the others have said, you find yourself in a state of being where your perception is highly influenced by thought and expectation.  I would add that it is also influenced by our interpretation of information.  So, there could be different combinations of the roles these elements play in any given OBE.  OBEs really are so individualized in this way which makes them so unique and interesting, to me anyway.  

I would suggest that you remember to identify any of your experiences with how you feel during them, not so much with what you are actually experiencing.  Focus on feeling your conscious awareness.  Once you get a clearer handle on your own self, your being, your consciousness, you will find that your experiences become clearer, having less influence by thought, expectation, and interpretation.  Know what I mean?  This is my opinion.