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I agree this is humorous. that cartoon is so old. u know, once in awhile he found someone who could "see" him. that was cool.

the_seeker wrote on Jul 15^th, 2007 at 7:40pm:


Hi Seeker,

I agree with much of what you have said. I believe I am "qualified" to speak to your last question.

First of all, find me a person who is "pro" abortion. I don't believe you will.

I don't believe there are circumstances in which killing is right...ever. It is not the "highest" good, in my opinion. Great spiritual teachers emphasize mercy, in all situations.

However, that being said, those who "appear" to be "pro" abortion are often simply ignorant or afraid. And there are circumstances in which there appears to be no better alternative. Suicide is the same, no matter what the "cause," in my opinion.

When I say "ignorant" I do not mean it as an insult. Ignorance, from what I am presently studying, is simply part of the human condition. When we realize that all people do the best they can, from where they are, and when we are able to keep this thought in our minds, we find that tolerance is the only answer.

It strengthens our characters to learn tolerance, and it is only possible to learn this by interacting in circumstances that we find difficult. Otherwise, we simply do not understand.

I speak from personal experience when I say that tolerance is a very subtle thing. I am not sure the lesson is ever completely learned, and life becomes unbearable when we do not open our hearts to others. The heart will keep crying out for this tolerance...

No one can give it to us. We must reach inside ourselves to find it.

love, blink

Hi seeker. suicide is just a delay in the curriculum the higher self set up for a life. things look different on the other side..we often can't see our way out of a tough problem on this side where it becomes starkly evident what another possible choice would have been.
sometimes I agree it may be the higher self's decision to withdraw and little if any guilt or suffering may be encountered. we left alive, we don't have all the facts, not even family members may have all the facts; we just know about the grieving part.
I am pro death, rather than pro suffering and pro choice I mean it's the woman's choice, and her choice should never be coerced upon her as long as she has lengthy counsel and equally lengthy soul searching . I know for a fact if abortion were illegal butchers would spring up again and even more deaths would occur in that case. my own mother went under the knife of a butcher and had an NDE. No counsel was available in those days and u can be none would be offered if the option was withheld by law. I do not see a soul inhabiting a fetus in the earlliest stages. (opinion) its presumptious for society to say whats good for the goose is good for the gander. next they'll be giving lobotomies to criminals and cutting off the hands of the thief or saying that a gun can walk up and kill someone on its own therefore ban guns. personally I think dum dum bullets should be employed until we advance past the need for weapons..we are living in the most primitive of times, my opinion.

it appears my hubby had chosen a slow suicide when I caught up to him later. it had nothing to do with how much he loved me and the kids. he was obliged by guides to come and straighten it out with me; there's some kind of rules set up they have to make amends to those who are suffering for them.


it can be seen to be selfish to grieve but until you've lost someone you love, you cannot say to one who mourns you are being selfish; it only makes them feel worse because they already suspect it's their own fault the person up and left.
thats why Mike had to show me it wasn't my fault he left, thats like karma he created.

the future will be different but right now we for the most part believe that life is worth living, I do too, but I couldn't convince a wonderful man that it was and so he split. some people are freezing their bodies even, I think that's going a little too far!
All decisions are ultimately left to the individual, and to experience the consequences of their own decisions. choice is all we have which is free will. not the moral majority rule. its between you and god and its nobodys business but your own..and gods.