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Reply #15 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 7:53am
 
I'm only young but I've had some difficult times. I'm not socially adventurous and not career saavy. I also have difficulty in relationships and friendships because of my unusual 'ways'. I like to think that life wasn't meant to be easy, its a challenge and I've incarnated to experience something unique in C1. From the chanelled information I've read and heard about, I don't think taking my own life would've helped my situation. I would just have wasted an opportunity of experience. If you believe the chaneled information, apparently a common reaction is one of regret and a deep realisation of not being able to reverse the situation.

I've recently purchased Bruce's afterlife knowledge cd's. I'm only starting on it but I would suggest to anyone contemplating suicide, 'You don't have to be in such a hurry to go there just yet, here is a way you can make visits'  Wink
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Reply #16 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 2:44pm
 
quote: 'You don't have to be in such a hurry to go there just yet, here is a way you can make visits'   Smiley
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Reply #17 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 5:46pm
 
laffingrain, your comments were right on the money as far as I am concerned.
(June 15/8:54PM)
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Reply #18 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 8:46pm
 
thanks for the comment Hawkeye Smiley
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Reply #19 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 9:07pm
 
I'm not so sure, your judged by yourself, theres so many variables through the higher planes its impossable to fully understand.

But I think from what I have experienced and thats plenty, theres not one soul here who has the answers, God knows I dont even have the answers, theres just to many variables.

But I do know there are indeed overseers, and they have the ultimate power, they through there knowledge control, the tests that are set for each of us, and its they who decide when you have passed your tests. Each incarnation is a gift! and again from what I have experienced through the higher planes the gift is not to be taken lightly.They the overseers are some tough teachers, and they want the test completed with a star attached.
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Reply #20 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 6:31am
 
spooky2 wrote on Jun 14th, 2007 at 5:19pm:
I'm the same opinion as Recoverer, but only one comment:

Quote Recoverer: "It is more of a matter of a Soul not accomplishing what it set out to do. "
It may be, in some cases that suicide is one "legal" exit point of one's life, when it's part of the plan, so to say, to have this courage to do this to get out of a situation which only provides suffering and wouldn't add anything to spiritual growth. Whether that is so, everyone must check carefully, and surely is difficult.

I had a look at what seems to me to be a previous life, where I committed suicide, and then, in meditation, met the woman who was my wife at that time, she said there is no judgement, but I had to know how sad my family was about this. This was a very sad thing to see.

So, the judgement seems to take place within everyone, when facing the own deeds. Though judgement isn't the right term, it's about to realise what has happened. Some then will judge themselves and feel guilty, some will notice it all to learn and have benefit from it. Those feeling guilty may have a tough job to do to free themselves from the self imposed guilt; but I have gotten help, so others will get too.

Spooky

Spooky you should change your name....it doesn't become you...Find a name for the site that is in keeping with your enlightenment.Names have power so empower yourself with a name that calls you forward and ever upwards.
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Reply #21 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 8:55am
 
Very good, David9,

Ditto, spooky!

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Reply #22 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 11:28am
 
Hey, wait a minute, I like the name Spooky --- I think it's cute! I always think of Casper the Friendly Ghost, the cartoon I saw as a kid.

This ghost was so cute, white and puffy, like a cloud, but much much cuter.

Okay, well, there's my attempt at intellectual achievement today.

This is much more funner.....Smiley

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Reply #23 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 8:23pm
 
Interesting suggestion and statement about names David9.
Maybe someone starts a poll about if I should do it?   Cheesy
But with a new name, someone wouldn't find me then using my old name. It's a bit like changing an e-mail address.
I came across Casper the friendly ghost (well, in cartoons) in my youth; I don't know why, but I didn't like the cartoons. Maybe Casper was too...friendly for my taste back then... Well, "Blink" for sure is a top name; blink on, Blink!
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Miss Recovery quoted:
"Not only that, some experiencers have observed the souls of those who committed suicide existing in an earthbound condition of temporarily being slaves to every consequence of their act of suicide. Such souls have been observed hounding and hovering around living family members and friends trying in vain to seek forgiveness. Some of them have been observed existing in a grayish fog and shuffling around slowly with their heads down."

There is one detail in my previous life story which I haven't told, which I was reminded of when reading the above:
When I/then commited suicide by jumping off a cliff, while falling my consciousness separated from the falling body and I/then immediately went to my family, but of course they couldn't perceive me, and I deeply regretted what I had done only some seconds before.

Spooky (yet)
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Reply #24 - Jun 20th, 2007 at 12:26am
 
its the worst feeling to talk to someone and they don't answer back because they don't recognize you. its like wasting your breath and time and feeling like a big nobody, which you are, but just to them.
I had the same feeling Spooky when I had my NDE, only I hadn't committed suicide then, I just wanted to know what it was like to be dead and not know it. it sucks! Smiley but it helped to become a better retriever for me.

recently I did a retrieval on a suicidee. a guy shot himself who lived alone with a dog. a friend of mine said there were noises in her house; she had been taking care of his dog as well. he was her landlord. as it turned out he was hanging about and worried about the care of his dog in a confused state that he was still alive but no one could see him, so he resorted to making noise where he could. doors and lights, that sort of thing.
I went out to see what I could do and called for his mother to come get him. she did and she was upset! it was a little funny to see him talk to her and she to him. he became as a child and she led him off telling him just wait until I get you home young man! one thing I noticed how happy he was that she had found him. it must be lonely out there.

my friend took his dog in and became attached to it.
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Reply #25 - Jul 1st, 2007 at 2:18pm
 
hey im very sorry if i bring up any topics that have already been discussed but i would like to let you know about my experience of suicide and if ou could help me to understand a few things.

first i would like to tell you all about it.

on december the 14th 2006 i recieved a call at work that a close friend of mine had commited suicide the previous day. he was just 18. he had shot himself in the head. at first a sense of disbelief took over. i didnt want to believe it. i told myself it was a joke. however it had been another friend who had told me that i would trust with my life.

all my friends met. we had no understanding of why he would have killed himself. apparently he was in a car crash earlier in the day. the thing is i dont believe this would be the reason. he was such a loved person. he was aguitarist in aband that were getting places. he was a great guy that got on with everyone. i cant believe that just this would thow all his judgement out the window. i was told from someone that they guy in the other car went over to get details and callum was already crying. now i dont know why but i cant help but feel like he was before the accident. i dont think that was the cause. anyway. he arrived home and went to the garage and sent his fairwells. texts to close friends. a long conversation with his girlfriend. a short note of apology to his parents.

police report that at around 4pm on december 13th 2006 he shot himself in the head with a shotgun.

obviously all friends and family were devestated.

this is where it gets interesting.

we all started getting dreams. we were sitting in the pub when one person recited a dream. in shock someone replied i had the same dream as did someone else. in the weeks to come many of us had dreams about callum that felt so real. it was as if he wanted to tell us things he hadn't the chance to before he left us.

alot of peoples dreams were very personal. alot containing converstaions with him that were very personal.

one friend told me that it felt so real. as if he was just there talking to him. callum looked perfectly fine. no injuries, his head all in tact. but the thing was they both were talking about his death. before my riend told me wht callum had said about what happens when you die i'd never heard such a discription. it's one of those things that your mind cannot imagine.

he told my friend that he left his physical body and felt a warmth. he then described it being like he 'evaporated' in to the atmosphere. i dont know much more than this as it became increasingly difficult for my friend to talk about.

does anyone know of any reports like that? its the first time id heard it. and for many people having the same dream?

whilst talking i said i justed wanted to know he was ok. a friend chirped up and said hes fine. i asked how she knew. she said he'd told her.

another time my friends, bandmates of callums, were in a car after seeing callums parents. they were talking about him and matt said he just wished he had a sign that he could hear them and communicate with him. as soon as this was said the car swerved, hit a verge and nearly flipped.

its all strange to me. i have no experience of this kind of thing before.

honestly, it scares me a little.

can anyone shed some light on the situation and let me know about the happenings?

please email me. mattrobinsonrock@hotmail.com

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Reply #26 - Jul 1st, 2007 at 5:46pm
 
these sorts of experiences are on the rise right now Matt. I'm glad you posted.
more and more we'll be hearing about them.
the veil between the two worlds is getting thinner is my opinion.
actually I do believe Callum does his best to let everyone know he's ok. it would be like his job right now. I know you miss him and wish he hadn't of done it but some questions in life don't get answered right away, at least he got through and you all have your verifications to compare.
if you want, you may start having further conversations with him in dream state or waking reality. I don't know. maybe thats what you want to do. I'd be curious about his reasoning too. love, alysia
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Reply #27 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 5:05pm
 
thanks for your thoughts on this.

i'd like to add that many people have had alot more experiences of this than me. i worry that i may be forming a kind of barrier between myself and callum as i am afraid of what i might be told wehter consciously or not. i sometimes wonder of my mind is not ready for these kinds of revelations.
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Reply #28 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 5:25pm
 
[quote author=spooky2 link=1181848997/15#23 date=1182298998]Interesting suggestion and statement about names David9.
Maybe someone starts a poll about if I should do it?   Cheesy
But with a new name, someone wouldn't find me then using my old name. It's a bit like changing an e-mail address.
I came across Casper the friendly ghost (well, in cartoons) in my youth; I don't know why, but I didn't like the cartoons. Maybe Casper was too...friendly for my taste back then... Well, "Blink" for sure is a top name; blink on, Blink!
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You are so right, Spooky! I can't get that ghost out of my mind now....It's been how long since that post?

Yes, Casper was annoying and I can't remember exactly why either....maybe he was a little....sanctimonious or something like that.

Perhaps he went around telling people what to do....

He's been haunting me ever since I dredged him back up into my "reality" and so I have to say to everyone be careful what you bring up as we finish up this retrograde cycle!

love, blink Smiley
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Reply #29 - Jul 3rd, 2007 at 11:05pm
 
well little boys are obnoxious, so is Casper. I remember how he couldn't find any friends Cry seemed to be a running theme, seems also very metaphysical that casper was one of the stuck souls of the astral, lots of children live in astral unless retrieved.
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