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Reply #15 - Jun 14th, 2007 at 11:13pm
 
Hi Bird, we all have our own pace. a friend of mine stays lodged in the higher dimensions most of the time he says. when he grounds himself, he says beer does it, or maybe he just uses beer like a trigger to get grounded into C1. he also doesn't drive much, lets his wife do it as you absolutely must be grounded for driving, needing all your senses.

for me I do gardening, housecleaning, cooking, whatever tasks at hand and that is grounding for me. what used to unground me the most was seeing a precognition dream come true because it can make u feel like you're not in control when and if those things start up for you, but then you can get grounded again when you figure out how you participated in your future event by the thoughts, feelings and belief systems you carried around. then there is past life, or simultaneous other selves who are also yourself, these must be brief glimpses and not thought about constantly or it would definetely cause a crash of the identity sort.
its good to think on being balanced in all things, mental emotional spiritually, logically, all of our many facets should all have equal time.

spiritually, gratitude is a fuel which grounds efficiently as life on Earth can be enjoyable and is meant to be so. Instinctually and intuitively, you probably know when to back off and when to explore new ideas without getting too much off the deep end.

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Reply #16 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 9:14am
 
Hi Alysia  Smiley

It's the "simultaneous other selves" that is really mind blowing! That's a hard concept to grasp, especially how it manifests itself in the afterlife. I think I understand the very basic premise of it, but I knowing there's so much more. You had mentioned in your other reply to me about us being used to having bodies in our physical life, the perception that we all have different personalities, thoughts, feelings, etc., and that this is not the case in the afterlife. There was a post by a new person about his fear that he would lose his identity in the afterlife, but the general consensus was that this isn't the case.

So I guess it's hard to wrap my head around being "one" with others without a body, without my own private thoughts and feelings, yet still being "me". In earthly reasoning, it seems like a contradiction! Ok my head hurts.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #17 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 1:39pm
 
Hi Bird-
With respect to Alysia's remarks about needing one's total concentration, and the question about intrusion of the spiritual world, not very long ago I got stopped and did a stint in Traffic School as the direct result of lapsing into meditation while zooming down the freeways where they clocked me at 80-90 + mph.  Alysia is right - it is a very poor idea. I was lucky to have a friendly policeman there to help me out in my moment of need - if anyone every needed a traffic ticket. Sad

However, I have noticed that so long as I am willing to allow input from extraneous sources, the entire universe seems willing to talk to me, send me bizarre messages, and a few that make good sense as well. The only trick seems to be to turn off my ego and all the inner babble and be receptive. Just because something is strange today doesn't mean that it doesn't attach to something that makes good sense - my junk sorts itself out, usually,  and most often in a way that reflects my participation in the universal activity we usually associate with the Oneness.

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Reply #18 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 7:13pm
 
I had a small accident a few months ago in my car too as a result of trying to bring the meditative state into normal life. Not recommended.  Roll Eyes There anyway are states where the judging mind is off line so to speak, but your awareness is fully focused in this reality....
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bird wrote on Jun 15th, 2007 at 9:14am:
Hi Alysia  Smiley

It's the "simultaneous other selves" that is really mind blowing! That's a hard concept to grasp, especially how it manifests itself in the afterlife. I think I understand the very basic premise of it, but I knowing there's so much more. You had mentioned in your other reply to me about us being used to having bodies in our physical life, the perception that we all have different personalities, thoughts, feelings, etc., and that this is not the case in the afterlife. There was a post by a new person about his fear that he would lose his identity in the afterlife, but the general consensus was that this isn't the case.

So I guess it's hard to wrap my head around being "one" with others without a body, without my own private thoughts and feelings, yet still being "me". In earthly reasoning, it seems like a contradiction! Ok my head hurts.   Roll Eyes

Robin

we always keep our individuality on the other side, the whole premise on the other side is you get to keep whatever you earned. like we build character here, on the other side it just continues, the experiences, only without a physical dense body, but hey, I hear we can change our hair color! oooweee! think I'm kidding? I've read a whole lot of books and we are a pretty creative bunch over there.
merging with your group or disc though is a choice, but still the individual, from what I have learned, all that is fine and decent in that individual is what surives, the faults get slowly rectified and with assistance from loving folks.
the thing about the oneness, is that telepathy operates, where an instantaneous thought exchange happens..you have the other persons sending and you receive, and its so instantaneous that you begin to think wonder who is sending what, who is receiving what because its like a mind meld situation in communicating, but still i dont lose anything with the communication, rather theres much to absorb from both parties in interaction.

we always get the question, the fear of losing our self upon death. Gordon writes a good book describing some retrievals you might want to pick up for additional glimpses into our other home. the book is called Eternity, and how to enjoy it.  in this book he says many of those he retrieved he watched them come to their own funeral and stare at the corpse trying to figure it all out. just seemed funny to me, as it shows how hard it is for us even in this enlightened century so called, to let loose of the flesh, we get so ATTACHED that the flesh is who we are.

its just a vehicle for experience. don't sweat the small stuff. but do take care of the body while you're getting experience.
the other lives get assimiliated into your knowledge banks, it tends to blend in. our minds are expansive things.

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Reply #20 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 12:30am
 
oh Dave if I go into an altered state while driving I'm the opposite of you, I do 40mph and it seems I'm really flying! Smiley its not safe to go too slow either. the problem will arise of missing the turn off too. maybe I should install a hand in my car that slaps me every few minutes... Cheesy
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Reply #21 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 2:23pm
 
Fast or slow, there seems to be a better time to go into trance, lest the state become unexpectedly permanent. Smiley
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Reply #22 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 10:39pm
 
dave_a_mbs wrote on Jun 16th, 2007 at 2:23pm:
Fast or slow, there seems to be a better time to go into trance, lest the state become unexpectedly permanent. Smiley

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