Greetings,

Several hours ago I had a strange experience that isn't really 'after'-life, but might be preparation for it.  ( Isn't everything?) Perhaps I should wait and try to digest it better, but then I might forget something, so here it is---

I was reading and may have dozed off. But I heard Guidance ask if I was ready and we took off with an upward sensation. When we slowed and stopped, someone said "Hello, bets, do you have your ----" (?). Guidance answered for me yes, and immediately a process began. I asked if I was in a hospital and Guidance said not quite that. Everywhere I felt a gentle flow outward and then after that a layer by layer flow inward. I asked if they were fixing my etheric body and the 'technician' said it was called the astral body. The process seemed to involve a grid rather than layers, and the grid was being injected with a gas or liquid.

Once I moved my C-1 feet and was warned not to move. I had to put them back exactly as they had been because I seemed to be losing energy through them in the changed position. I asked if this process would cure headaches, etc but they said no, the process did not directly alter the physical, the position of the linear grid would not be altered, just its substance.

An unusual aspect of this for me was that the voices were voices now, not just mental telepathy, and they were friendly sounding! Most of my life they were sarcastic, more recently they've been demanding, but now they were cordial. I like that change ! No images yet, just light still. I would have guessed twenty minutes had passed but the clock said over two hours.

Moving in C1 now feels smoother and maybe my sense of humor has improved. Other than those changes I'm not sure what this has done but I appreciate it. 
It doesn't really 'fit' with other experiences I've had, but I guess these things happen.

Bets

Thanks, Alysia,   

The benefits are still showing up!
Yes, I've heard of psychic surgery but I thought I'd have to cruise over to the Phillipines to get it!
Interesting coincidence with the timing of shelbert's and my adjustments.  Do you suppose there's an astrological window of opprtunity that our guides use to time our trips?  I'll have to find out if shelbert lives near the US east coast.

bets

Hi bets,

I was reading your post and WOW! Pretty amazing stuff! The answer to your question about where I live is US but not on the East Coast. I live in the Midwest. This is really exciting though for me. I am finding alot of new things about myself and life. Interesting stuff I am learning just from reading this board and doing some search on the internet. I really want to get Bruce's books too. I am hoping they will help me go forward more. Thanks so much for your posts! 

betson wrote on May 22^nd, 2007 at 10:16am:


hey! we don't have to go to the Phillipines! lol. I was wondering the same thing about the astrological window time thing so we're thinking the same. I noticed about 6 people, here and the other board had similar experiences around the same time as you, including moi!

I also think we must have been inviting help before we get it. even if sometimes we unconsciously invite assistance. in my case I usually get stressed about something before I set an intention to get help.
I get ichy feet then something happens. well, that explains nothing! lol. there does seem to be a pattern of free will action to growth patterns though. dis-satisfaction or excitable curiosity usually plunges me into some area where I've never gone before.

love, alysia

Thanks Alysia for the info about the books. I will check that out! 

Hi Bets-
A few years ago a friend sent me a newspaper article about "Diviner's Mint" (Salvia Divinorum). Being suitably curious, I obtained a sprout, and soon had a sort of weedy vine trying to climb up and take over my living room wall. It's not especially unique. I plucked a couple leaves that had dried on the vine, stuffed them into my pipe and applied heat. Maybe not such a good idea!

The first thing I noticed was that it seemed that everything had grown teeth, carpet, walls, floor etc and was interested in shredding me. I was in a different kind of space.

Then the part that connects to your remarks, I noticed a very large square grid, perhaps two foot squares that seemed to be passing down over me. The sizes of the grid squares decreased, and by the time that they got to be very small, I felt as if I was being ripped apart by thousands of tiny needle points. 

The entire room had taken on a sense of electrical fields, and above me and curving over me was a "sheet" of energy through which I could not pass - it moved along with me, like a layer of time that was stuck on the moment of experience. As I moved hands etc over the carpet and furniture I could distinctly see it rise, as if attracted by static - but my wife (uncertain whether I was having a cardiac infarct or a brain fart) said that she could see nothing - and as the scene faded (about 3 or 4 minutes) so did the perception of the rising and wiggling fibers.

Most of these elements seem to be more or less repeatable with later experiments. The ripping sensation was suppressed by meditation on being calm, solid, stable and immobile. "I am OK, I have done no wrong." The experience of the square grid has been reported by a number of other people, with roughly similar opinions. It seems to be thoroughly unpleasant at best. (And some people use this stuff for fun? Insane. - I do not recommend this to anyone.)

As for using Salvia Divinorum for anything else, I feel that it might have some value in trial by ordeal. That's probably the divinatory method. An unstable personality (like mine) certainly felt it to be an ordeal to be sifted or strained, whichever it was, while all those little pins and needles ripped away at me. Had I felt guilty about stealing Juan Valdez' pig, or whatever, I would not have been able to take a stable and painless posture. Interested people can find more in the Lycaeum or Erowid posts.

dave

Thank you for your responses.
I have to think about them awhile.

Bets

Regarding grids, I've shared this before. I'm not certain how it relates.

One time I saw a book in front of me. The pages were turning. Even though the words were clear, they were hard to read. I chose to focus on one word in particular. The book turned into a grid. I started vibrating, astral projected out of the top of my head, and traveled through this green World that had all kinds of structures I didn't understand. This projection was unusual in that I saw what was behind me, rather than in front of me, as if I sitting at the back of a bus. I've seen this green World on one or two other occasions, without the out of body effects. It has been almost two years since I've seen it.

I read a near death experience where a lady saw that all of our higher selves are connected together as a grid. Mellon Thomas Benedict wrote that he saw a higher self matrix surrounding the planet when he had a NDE.

Perhaps we're all connected with some sort of energetic grid.