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May 13th, 2007 at 10:03am
 
My mother passed away eleven years ago. If I understand correctly, people in the afterlife can choose when and if they wish to be reincarnated. I also understand that when you die, you are reunited with your loved ones. So if my mother or other people I know that have passed on have decided to reincarnate prior to my death, does that mean that I won't see them when I enter the afterlife?
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Reply #1 - May 13th, 2007 at 10:55am
 
Dear Bird,

that is a tricky subject to tackle for your first round on this board. Perhaps i can offer an overview and others will explain more fully.
She will be there for you as long as you need her to be.
Through Bruce's explorations, our own, and what we can read of such knowledge in past cultures, the individual 'I' we know here on the earthly plane is part of a multi-layered group. There are several possibilities within that grouping:

Your mother can wait for you in her (almost) entirety, perhaps to plan together a new shared life;
If she must move on, she can leave a 'sheath' or figure of experience that represents her and is her record of this particular life with you  to greet and care for you there in the Afterlife;
For briefer encounters she can be represented by other close members of your "disc family" who have shared experiences so fully that such stand-ins are an expected part of group life, where distinctions between individuals blur.

You would not think of these situations as deceitful once you get there because once we are there, our need for separateness dissolves into a Loving acceptance of the unity of life. 
These conditions were hard for me to grasp at first and a bit startling.
She will be there for you as long as you need her to be.

Love, Bets
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2007 at 4:14pm
 
so what you're saying betson is that if his mother chooses she can leave a sort of "projection" of herself to explain to her son that she decided to reincarnate ?
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Reply #3 - May 13th, 2007 at 4:15pm
 
Thanks so much. I did start to read about this Bruce's first book, but as you said, it's a difficult concept to grasp. Your explanation actually helped me make more sense of it.
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Reply #4 - May 13th, 2007 at 4:44pm
 
Yes Kroan,

as I understand it. A projection that is an interactive, emotionally sensitive, memory-laden, self-sufficient unit of her past 'self.' 
Thank you, bird, I couldn't remember which book it was in.

bets  Smiley
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Reply #5 - May 13th, 2007 at 5:24pm
 
so if she chose to present herself as a sheath of her past self, is it only temporary? when i pass over, will i understand that she needs to move on after she is there for me during the initial stages of my crossover, or will she be available to me at any time if i just ask?

furthermore, is she available to me while i am still here on earth? i must say that i have never felt her presence, although i'm not certain if i've tried to hard enough. i went to see a psychic after she died, and i was told that my mom wanted me to know that her passing went well and that she was greeted by my father's dad and her mother. later on, i was told my grampa (who greeted her after she passed) watches out for me. I never met my grampa - he died in 1965 - a year before i was born. is it possible that he has decided not to reincarnate so he can take care of me while i'm on earth, or is it possible that for him to be "in two places". Smiley

i'm asking some loaded questions so i'll completely understand if there's not a simple answer. thanks so much!
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Reply #6 - May 13th, 2007 at 6:12pm
 
Greetings,

Smiley I do hope we get some others involved here, but again, perhaps I can get this started.

When you cross over, you will understand so much more than our human perspective allows. When you and your mother part finally, it will be by mutual agreement so it won't come as surprise to you. That aspect of her will probably fade or rest when no one from that lifetime is seeking her.

Since your mother said your grandfather is your connection now, I'm guessing she had prior committments. You and he have had some prior lives together, I expect, or else he wouldn't have been chosen for your helper now. Why distract her from her involvements when she has hinted that you have others to look to?
These assignments are group decisions, not just the people you are aware of, so his death in the 1960's is somewhat immaterial. He must care alot to keep having you in his lives! It sounds like he is waiting for you  (at least until you find you've been assigned a new helper) so he knows you well.  You can ask him anything you would ask your mother and his answers will let you know how to continue your questions. When you meet him there, you may recognize him from another time and place, not like old Gramps at all! 

You can use the imagination method Bruce suggests and save yourself the psychic's fees.  That way you get your information direct, fully laden with the emotional overtones that are meant for you, with no warpage from some medium view.  Have you read that part yet, about having a calm uninterrupted time and place?  Just address your grandfather (mentally, not necessarily out loud.) When I want to contact someone that way I usually announce a couple of times in the day before, "I intend to find  --- and speak with them tomorrow /soon."

Being your mother was a big position so you and she have probably worked up to that with various other relationships in the past, so i can see that your loss of her is a big one. But so many family members up there love you! I hope you will get to know them by contacting your grandfather soon.

Love, bets
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Reply #7 - May 13th, 2007 at 8:36pm
 
bets - thank you again for all your helpful info. i just tried to send thoughts to my grampa and will keep trying in the coming days. it's weird trying to contact someone i've never met. all i can do is visualize him through the pictures i've seen of him. if he does try to communicate with me, i can't help but wonder how i will imagine he sounds or looks.

i saw that psychic i was telling you about ten years ago. i know i'm thinking in terms of earthly time and space (linear), but it seems like so much could have changed between then and now. is my grampa still my guide? and if not, will i learn of who is through my attempts to contact him? it's all so very interesting.

thanks again!
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