You made me chuckle, Spooky.  I have the same difficulty:  which way is clockwise and from what perspective do we see this motion?  Nice to know that I'm not the only one that can't tell clockwise from counterclockwise.  (Interesting thought, 'counterclockwise' is sort of Germanic the way we tack three different words together.)

Rob

spooky2 wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 7:18pm:


  I've wondered about this also.   All i can say though, is that in healing work i've done, sometimes i feel the need to charge and expand energy, and i will do this by rotating my right hand clockwise (from my perspective) while holding open my left hand.   

  But part of me wonders if any of such things are truly necessary, let alone all the complex symbols, movements, etc. that are used in Reiki for example. 

   I suppose if one speeds up their rate of vibration and consciousness, and also balance themselves enough, they wouldn't need any outer props like this, but meanwhile such props can be useful aids till we get to that point in our spiritual development.

  I would like to get some more clarification on the issue of Earth polarity and directions.  There is some info in TMI and Cayce stuff which goes a bit into this, but again because of the lack of specific explaining of perspective, can be a bit confusing. 

  For example, Cayce was told by his guides to lay down in different directions for different kinds of psychic readings.   If he were to give a reading on physical health, he would face North or South (don't remember exactly).   But since Cayce laid down, what exactly was meant by "facing".  Cause if one sits up and faces say North, when they lay down their head is pointing towards South, and vice versa.

  A reading on Atlantis, he should face East.   A broad, spiritual, more univeral type reading would be either South or North, again can't remember which exactly, but its opposite the physical reading.  I'm not sure if West was ever mentioned, i don't recollect. 

  Monroe mentions in his first book, something about aligning to the North South polarity, i believe he had head to the North?   Anybody remember what exactly he talked about?

betson wrote on May 9^th, 2007 at 1:17pm:


  Update:  I didn't really get to meditate much on this question, though i did remember during a brief meditation to ask about this.  I was kind of tired that day, and ended up falling alseep though. 

  I do have some thoughts on it though, but i'm not sure how "inspired" they are if at all. 

Basically it seems simple to me.  We have 5 main "bodies" which actually seem like bodies in a sense.  They have some kind of locality, a reference point for a mind and consciousness which is heavily immersed in space/time concepts.   

There aren't "bodies" connected to Chakra's 6 and 7 because these are consciousness states of moving completely beyond limited, finite, space/time concepts.   These are the beginnings of really starting to feel and experience, existing everywhere and in everything, though not quite completely yet eg. not full Source attunement or "enlightenment" (my reference point of same is from the example of the man Yeshua).

  A "body" implies some kind of limitation or locality, or in physics terms it implies being a particle as opposed to or compared to a wave of potentiality.   In most of the main energy dimensions connected to the Earth, we experience a more particle like state of being, we see, experience, and convince ourselves that we are a "set" thing. 

  Chakras 6 and 7 start to phase more into the wave like state of being.  These states of being are by their very nature, rather hard to describe in our language, except in terms of broad feeling type connotations.

  So, in a sense, after the 5th dimension we start phasing in and operating from our 5th "body" more and more, the spiritual body, but which is fast becoming bodiless or wave like in nature and more so essences with the sense of great expansion and inclusiveness.  So the spiritual body covers some "levels" of 5th dimensional awareness (the faster vibratory rates of sub dimensions within same), but more so shading into 6th, 7th, and perhaps completely beyond dimensional state of being.   And so spiritual "body" is really kind of a misnomer, but in our language and reference point, its almost necessary to use from a comparitive and relative standpoint.

  Dunno, does this make sense?  In any case, its good to look for answers within as well.  Happy going within.

 

Hi all

AhSo, I have to agree with you about the Chakras, as a few times I've tapped into the higher ones, and it subtly feels like my 'body' is actually all the way up to the sky, and I intuitively feel and sense it going out and being connected to the universe in a mysterious kind of way.

Like I'm a drop of water, aware of the ocean I'm in. My physical body is like the trunk of the tree, and the higher chakras the leaves that are drinking in the cosmic energy of space and time.

It would be way cool to be like that all the time. You feel sooooooooooo balanced, and I guess w(holy). Also I suspect it just gets better and better, and I've only had a peek into the DeepGood. It's comforting too that I can experience such things, as I'm no Mother Teresa, just a kindly person trying to do their best, who is energy aware, and schooled in mediation. It's more a state of Grace I feel, in that I haven't 'earned' it, just cleared myself enough to receive Kali's gift.  

Cheers
Cris

  Kool translation Cris.  Probably as good as one can explain and describe such experiences and feelings. 

actually Justin, it's your face. you're more relaxed in this photo than the other one I remember. nah, I wouldn't change her name, Kenya's a great name. we shouldn't get too complicated with labels and names. take care, alysia