That was a wonderful experience, Bear. Thank you for sharing it.

When I had a minor operation one time I had the feeling that I was in a white light the entire time, although I was unconscious.  I remember the feeling of "drifting away" and it was familiar because I have had more than one operation in my lifetime. But AFTER that drifting away I was held in a white light.  Over to the side I could see an area that appeared red in color to me.  It was on my right.

This was the side of me in which the physician was working, and the side in which I began hearing the conversation between him and the others in the room as I began to come back to consciousness.

But the white light was very very bright.  I just remember a feeling of being held in it. When I was being wheeled out of the room I was experiencing the "bliss" that you feel from the drugs they give you so that you feel no pain.

I remember smiling at my physician as I was wheeled out of the room. Looking right into his eyes and smiling with all my heart.

Later, on a follow-up, he asked me what I experienced during the procedure. i did not consider it very important at the time and just told him about the voices I heard for a while talking about vacation, etc.  He said, oh, that was just you coming back to consciousness.  We were standing around waiting for you.

Anyway, I don't know why I felt like telling that story right now.  I loved this near death experience.  It was described beautifully.

Thanks again, and it is what I believe and experience almost daily.

Love is at our center and is who we are.  In my meditation today I was given that exact idea that she talked about....that no one is given more than they can handle at the time. it is deliberate. All of our disagreements in life come from our forgetting.

They come from our forgetting that we are all in a state of, at the very least, mild confusion much of the time. Thus, forgiveness is the best practice a person can do.  And forgiveness is simply letting it go, letting it go back to Source, which holds and loves all things.

love, blink

Thanks very much for this very revealing NDE.

This fits in with a theme I am dealing with right now.
I think that the failure of any existing paradigm to explain
things, has to do with the failure to completely separate heaven
from Earth.

The messages coming back from the other side have themes of
perfection and pure love. That is, a soul that is pure? And a plan
that is perfect? What nonsense that sounds like, when we look at
this Earth as it is, and we look at humans and their behavior.
This Earth seems to have no plan, no morality except what we
devise, no justice, and love is an option, as is hate. Evil has
free will to do as it is able to do.

Yet when we get up there, we are going to see how "perfect" this
all is? This is quite a mouthful to swallow, and I am having a LOT
of trouble with it. Yet this "nonsense" about perfect love keeps on
coming down from "up there".

So, the people who are exposed to these heavenly descriptions, try
to apply them to Earth, and that can look ridiculous. Natural
disasters show the indifference of nature to the welfare of man or
beast. Your true inner nature is pure love? Come on! Why is there
such a large army of criminals with no conscience? Why is predation
a fundamental operation in nature, with a major portion of the
worlds creatures being predators?

This difference between heavenly values and Earth realities is so
huge, that it defies the possibility of a paradigm that includes
both heaven and Earth as being part of the same system. And a
perfect system? Impossible! And a parental, loving figurehead in
charge of the whole thing? Ridiculous!

And now we see from this NDE that the Knowledge of this higher
realm is to be completely erased from our awareness when we come
down to this Earth. How preposterous this all is!  And no wonder
belief systems developed from penetration into the higher realms
look so silly down here on Earth.

Yet, I admit that if we do apply the better values from above, to
life down here, it does improve the quality of life. But the
predators, the incurable diseases, the horrible creatures like the
parasites and germs and viruses and blights are still here for us
to deal with. I dont see, at present, how you can say that life
down here was invented by perfect love on a perfect plan. This just
does not work. What I see is mystics and religious persons
manipulating their own minds and the minds of others with
delusions, to include these two extremely different worlds as part
of a whole, when the basic principle of operation is entirely
different.

The difference between heavenly values and Earth realities produces
a strange mixed up conglomeration of ways of thinking, full of
contradictions.

Any paradigm that is to explain things will need to set up entirely
different rules and ways of thinking to deal with and explain the
two different worlds.

Well, you may be happy with that explanation, DaBears, but it makes
no sense to me at all. It makes the earth exoerience look like a very
silly exercise.  If our soul already has perfect love, you are ging to
turn all that off when you come down here to live some silly drama,
with 3/4 of your marbles missing? I dont buy it.

That sounds as silly as something Seth or Elias might say.

We still have miles to go to get anything that makes any sense.

Yes, no one knows the God honest truth and we all have many lessons to learn.. I know for a fact though we are here to learn to love.. All NDE's would agree, with me on that one..

peace

Boris wrote on May 5^th, 2007 at 5:11pm:

We have all forgotten that we were the one original being. So we live out our lives in the illusion of separateness. Our aim is for all of us to come together again, to merge back into the original being and become the One we truly are beneath the surface. The way to do this was love. Love is simply the name of the natural force which, like gravity, tends to pull everything back together. As human beings, the way we experience this force is through love. As fragmented creatures, our job is to love each other and become one again. (Joseph Kerrick)

In God's eyes we are perfect.. Our souls were created perfectly.. Once you die and go into the light of God you will see everything in this life was perfectly designed for a purpose.. And know that we are all connected and feel no need to judge a soul.. You may not realise it now, but once you enter the light of God, you were know everything and become everything..


No need to critisize my philosophy... I don't critisize yours my friend..

peace

Boris wrote on May 5^th, 2007 at 7:35pm:

Okay good to see were somewhat on the same page now.. Yes, this life is definately a huge puzzle.. It's very hard to try and put it all together for sure..

Just curious but what Religion are you a part of??

peace