We've done a little Partnered Exploration on those threads in another forum here, in group situation basically, it's easier with twos or threes though.

it sounds like you may be able to give us a book someday Richman from some of the things that you say? if you are not a writer, too bad. you have some experience. (or a lot)

yes the only reason I might have an obe experience has to do with PUL, or needing to deliver a message to another, that just comes to me. and you did this too.

if you would like to do some PE we could ask for volunteers on the PE thread, or if it's just you and me, we could give it a shot sometime. we did think of pairing up one time, and we can still do that.

you might want to outline some kind of plan for me, or for a small group over on the other thread and I could join you. you might like to see what we've been doing.

Rich,

 Partnered exploration is certainly a good way to prove the validity of our There experiences. It is, in my opinion, the most challenging of  three methods - and for me the only one I haven't been successful  in checking off the list. The other two methods are 2) travelling to someone still alive and obtaining information from them or about them and 3) visiting someone deceased, gathering info, and validating it  back in the physical (aka Bruce's "Punky" experience)
 
 I have done lots of the 2nd method, running what I call psychic inspection experiments. http://www.mysticalexplorer.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

 When I'm lucky I have gotten some afterlife validation from retrievals. PE's, like the ones described in Bruce's  books require strong astral awareness by both parties. Otherwise it becomes a 1-sided deal - more like method #2, which is nothing to sneeze at in terms of validations.

-mike

Hi Mendel! nice website. Richman, welcome again, I sense an honest, open person of good will in you whos hoping to share some things he's not able to share anywhere else.

you're the type of person I wanted to bring in here, to make it safe for you and I hope you continue to stay and feel ok here. its not always a lovely place to be open and sharing  but you certainly seem to be doing quite well. and yes I pick up people's vibes from the written word resonating in the heart. I sense excitement in you, and like I said good will and a desire to learn more about retrievals and explorations. thats all I picked up but it suits me fine as one should always respect privacy of another and there are guides on this board of a nonphysical status to help all of us.
no, I'm not a work horse in spiritual realm either, it has to flow or something is wrong, so I understand when you say something is too much work one shouldn't push it.
in my way of doing stuff, i set an intention and release it. and just keep setting it over again and sooner or later something happens.
but then I've used the imagination and picked up some marvelous things that way, but it should be fun, not work.
you're right, sensitive people will not have a need to bare their souls here, but it's not hiding out exactly, its more as you say we are pioneers developing new talents, and anytime a new sense in the human is developed it undergoes the perfectioning process as we get it right.
even remote viewers, an easier thing to develop, my opinion, it is generally under 50% accuracy for the average person.

some falling into the over 50% accuracy  which is still good. I think Moneagle was in the 90% accuracy. then u wonder who are the experts? lol, are they doing 90% accuracy as well? probably not. logic is fallible in this area.

the fun aspect you speak seems a component of PUL factor we talk about here, or compassion for the suffering, or the stuck who do not necessarily think they are suffering, it is us who project that they are suffering but they may feel the need to move on from something and thats the PUL factor, and it is fun to do this work, to see their joy.

someone who is thinking about you, and you don't want a negative thought, it's easy to shield yourself from others thoughts. for instance walking into a crowded area, like a Walmart, one can pick up limitation thoughts of others which enmasse are disquieting, when people shop they are not always a warm caring bunch of thoughts when it comes to forking over money....you can automatically put up shields by seeing yourself in a bubble, nothing that is unlike PUL can get in there. its the same with PE, nothing unlike PUL is allowed in there but what you want to come in for your good and for another's good only. just thought I'd throw in the shield thing as you mentioned something about it. I've been practicing the shield thing and it's working really good.
and astral traveling and PE is FUN!

love, alysia

Greetings Richman,

You've developed your own vocabulary since you were exploring on your own, whereas most people here use the Monroe/Moen terms to describe their experiences. Forums here called 'Partnered Explorations' and 'Retrievals' seem to both overlap your 'physical-astral pairing' concept. So it's fun to see how the various ways of describing these experiences actually coincide.

Another term that overlaps your experience in a related way but is not exactly equal is 'phasing,' a means of moving out OB and into the spiritual realm of another being; then that pair can combine their energies to go further/farther, faster than usual. It's also fun, but I've never done a retrieval with another discarnate human. You're saying you can meet spirits of either living humans or helpers to do exploring with? Neat!

bets

richman said: and I don't want to attach "labels" yet to what is happening, because I know if I "make a concept" about what I am seeing, it could change what I'm seeing
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I think this is a good tip for us explorers. thanks! alysia

so Richman it seems you want to feel in charge of your excursions, and I don't see why not.

a lot of people might want to be in your shoes, so keep us informed if you will.
myself, I am not so ambitious. I will have a retrieval only on distant occassions. I will obe only once every 90 days or so, and I always try to find out what triggers it.
I can usually trace the obe to a curiosity intention.

nobody fetches me anymore, only in the beginning. now I do have someone I meet regularly just like Monroe had  Inspec.
but this person is physically alive. so, hmm. lifes a mystery

Hi richman,

The kind of tired I get is revived well for me with some citrus juice sweetened with sugar. (And regular meals.) And deep breathing.  It's rather demanding for most of us, I guess.  Using this my spiritual encounters/explorations have gradually increased to several a week.
Perhaps so many is not an advantage, as I do not take time to figure out all I should.  I think we need alot of 'figuring ou' because this realm has been kept a mystery for so long that we have much to learn.  I'm just so thankful that here is such a fine community that supports such involvement!
Happy exploring!
Bets