I have 212 PM's in my inbox. I keep them as memories of my friends. over the 6 years I've participated happily on this forum I have only received 3 or 4 inflamatory PM's and those I most often delete or sometimes I try to sooth the wild beast.

today I got one of those veiled attacks on my integrity in my PM. I don't see why the poster doesn't continue the public disagreement instead of using my PM as if somehow he can make greater headway by doing it privately.

we should agree we may disagree on things from time to time, wish the poster well on their path and drop it. I feel under attack and not able to use the peer moderator in my PM. box.
however, I will use the ban feature in my PM for this particular strong headed person.

it is my opinion to PM someone with your complaints about what they believe here is an invasion of privacy to step behind the scenes in devious manner and it constitutes harrassment, no matter how they put forth the idea that you are wrong and they are right by purporting to be psychic of all things to say. it is well known and I agree that just because you are psychic that u can abuse your talent with the coloration of your own perceptions and belief systems.

in other words dear poster, if you can't think of something positive to say, why bother?

its too bad really, he thinks my opinion and influence here is detrimental to his own purposes here. I sincerely doubt that inference.

perhaps we can live together here. perhaps not. I would certainly like to generate a positive direction and the demonstration of respectful attitudes among our diverse viewpoints, and if you got something mean to say, say it on the board.
my opinion. stay cool. it's only life.

I have been on lots of forums over the years and most of the time I have ONLY received PM's from people who were interested in discussing stuff in NICE way , wanted to know where I got a tool or what program I was useing, and didn't want to ask NEWBIE question for fear of appearing stupid on MAIN board.

I , too, would be concerned if someone was useing PM as a means of Attacking me if they didn't like my viewpoint on MAIN BOARD.  And I like your approach of bringing it out into the OPEN without mentioning NAMES. 

The person PM'ing you would know immediatly you are referring to him/her and to Stop PM'ing you and if he/she didn't stop, you could respond in this thread to alert Head MOD of "rude/improper"conduct.

I can see that OOB boards could lend itself to "imbalanced" behavior due to the fact that the practices we are doing should be done by people in a Healthy -Well-Balanced mindset. The Health warnings on Hemi-Sync and other tech tools , make it very clear if you are on Meds or have a Mental History of Mood disorder or other Issues ... don't try these exercises.

ANGER or FEAR should be a WARNING sign to STOP doing whatever you are doing and take a step back and address the "real" issue that is causing the 'anger or fear" ... NOT PROJECT it out ...and say OTHER people are causing these FEELINGS. 

Possible reason for posting this topic would be to see if other "shy" people in this room are getting the same type PM for someone in this room.  And to see if it is a "collective" problem.  When you say "I see ABSOLUTELY NO REASON" for posting this ... except a "negative" reason ... seems to imply the "only reason" is to HURT the PM'er.  Could be other reasons, and the person who posted it could have "constructive" reasons. 

And she didn't identity the person.

I agree with Blink.  There is no reason not to post this thread.  It does not mention one person (even if he is mentioned as a male).  It addresses an issue, and may come up again. 

For myself, I prefer just not to reply in a situation like that or send a message saying, it was not my cup of tea.  It is interesting to me, because I too, recently PM'd someone about an issue I thought was better not aired in public to avoid sensationalism.  My PM was received, but not replied to from one of our regulars.  Ah well........

Communication is what it is; sometimes you get your wires crossed, some things are appropriate, some are not.  I roll with it, and don't let it get me down.

Much anger has been released of late regarding Jesus, and possible false channelings or blasphemous statements about his crucifixtion.  No matter your personal religious views, I think it is possible to carry on a conversation without offending another or taking offense.  JC seems to be a touchy subject lately, and anger manifest on his sake does not seem appropriate with what I know of the gospels.


Matthew

richman wrote on Apr 30^th, 2007 at 11:07am:


its human nature to consider we are always right and the other is wrong, therefore we are the one who is being constructive might be the assumption. you are right this person does not really wish to be injurious to me. it will be cleared up shortly I feel on a higher level.
I will learn something about myself I'm sure and I crash well and bounce back well.

part of the reason for posting this thread is to recognize two former members who had valuable contributions here and decided it was not safe to post here as they could not be open to share their explorations. I have been here 6 years and so I can see an overview of energies on the board sometimes dispassionately, sometimes I am too personally involved and so I begin to form my goodbye letters.
which is what I started to do yesterday then changed my mind, no, I'm not going to quit here because I've gotten far too much value from participating to be a quitter.
I will learn how to be strong and not vulnerable, but I have the right to trust you people because of love and to awaken to my folly of trusting. I do believe in group dynamics. I still feel we are family. I trust my guidance I can speak my mind and that as Doc says, we can express ourselves here without all the guilt trips on each other, but sometimes I think we should not discuss religions at all because wars do start up over that the world over.
so what are we learning as a group consciousness?

I miss the other players who left. One left because she came here to with the family concept as well and she was called away to generate her family elsewhere as things move here then we get into a hovering pattern of static for awhile, but we always seem to rebound to priorities of helpfulness to one another and study of the materials at hand.  we can attract those here who have "knowings."  but only if we let them come by welcoming them and listening without getting bent out of shape because a different religious viewpoint is presented radically different than your own.

the other "family" member who left was being pm-ed to death by a couple of negative entities whose names I will not mention because it's not up to me to be pointing a finger and projecting guilt and it was her choice to leave as well her husband reccommended that her explorations were causing too much of a stir and he wanted her to focus on other things because he loved her and didn't want her to be attacked for what she believed in.

so then, I too get negative things in my pm, and at first they seem to be kind, they seem to want to "help" me, by gently persuading me of my errors.

and then at once I want to respond lovingly with good intentions as usual. but the thing is you cannot express a love feeling in a post...how silly of me to think another would pick up that I do love them too. these are mere words on a puter screen.
I must be dreaming. we do not know each other, is the love I feel for each of you not in your heart also?

I must wake up when I am not loved back. so too is everyone's journey here, I am not so different from anyone, to feel love towards humanity, I am sure we are love at our basis, and that love is the priority and we somehow learn together to express it, and if it takes talking about a volatile subject as religion so we can get to the bottom of things, then that's what it takes.

I am keeping positive during this shift. we shift and crash don't we?

why don't we all take each other's hands instead of projecting guilt and blame?

and I've heard it from the top brass amazing grace is descending unto a main player here soon. I am glad as we all could use a little grace now and then.

love, alysia

Cricket wrote on Apr 30^th, 2007 at 8:48am:


thanks for the other viewpoint Cricket. sounds like it might be working good for this other board to do that. I don't know, I haven't participated in that many boards to see how they do things.

it might also depend on how much time one has to respond to pm's. for me maybe it's best not to become involved that way if someone wants to just argue on and on about something. I don't think we can change another person to our viewpoint by going on and on, so I hope your board is ok with taking it behind the scenes and if it works good, I say continue with it.

these posters I'm thinking of I have tried my best with and it wasn't good enough, so it gets draining and I think life is too short to be arguing about everything when we need a good mediator sometimes.
peer moderator might work if all sees the value in contributing, or at the least can see their opinions would be valuable to the administrator rather than to float on by thinking oh gee, thats sad but none of my business, Bruce said he doesn't want anyone to suffer in silence. human nature likes to fight sometimes don't they?

so there you are. seems like the more sparks that fly, the happier people get. hmmm!
well OK!  woooweeeeeeeee!!! an aha moment. gonna love you guys whatever you say!!!

this is all politics in a way..never thought I was political person, some of us are.
I'm hostess over on the other board, picked that title myself, because I don't like politics.

ok, I'll go crawl back into my hole now   
   

Enforcing the use of a civil dialogue is not the same as "the thought police," for those of you out there who are wondering about it.  There is no call for derogatory remarks such as:

"You are the poster girl for close-minded New Agers and it is a waste of time to engage you critically.  Yeah, go ahead and report me via Peer Moderator to the Language Police.  I don't give a dam-n.  "

How can I debate seriously someone who speaks about the spiritual search for PUL when he or she  would let the insults fly like that?  I'm sorry, Don, but you can not talk about what a genuine seeker you are and then release this hateful rhetoric.  Do you really think, that just because this is a forum, that your snide remarks don't invoke negative responses, grief and karma?  Think again.

In the recent past, I defended you to others, saying that you wanted to raise the consciousness of people on the board with "tough love."  I can no longer say that given these disparaging remarks.  Regardless of Alyssia's slip in speaking of your condition, you do not demonstrate forgiveness or understanding, two key aspects of the teachings of Jesus (which you are well aware). 

I believe you are part of this forum's family, with insights and ideas worth pursuing, but not at the cost of the dignity of another. 

I think you owe Alyssia and the board an apology for these derogatory remarks.  If I were the Peer moderator, I would treat you the same way I saw done on the astraldynamics.com website, where the editor strikes your venom and then leaves any cogent discussion intact, followed by a note from the editor saying that insulting remarks were removed as per the rules of the forum.

You can call me sanctimonious in response, or any adjective you see fit, but deep down, you know that I am right.   


Matthew

Berserk!

With a name like that , what are people gonna think! YOU PICKED that NAME!  Why?

If you feel hurt , and you lash out , is that really gonna make you feel better, LONG term.  It would be nice if you reflected on this stuff and thought about someone meeting you today for the first time.  If you have SICK emotions , say "man, I've been having these SICK emotions for awhile, and in my heart I don't want to be perceived as a MEAN BERSERK person.  On the other hand, we all get "whacked" out at times and when we become aware of that, we go back to Spiritual Practices that Center US and the main Goal.  The Goal of Jesus really is to pray and Receive LOVE and then send out that LOVE to others.  And I practice this BREATH , by BREATH by BREATH.  I wasn't trained to do that.  I was taught as a kid if someone hurts me, hurt them back.  But of course , that didn't make me happy!

Really would like to see you shift and have a GREAT day.  It's just a Breath away. 

It will stop when you say you had enough of the EGO stuff (tension,negativity,anger,fear) and Let the LOVE in and let it flow out. Talking about it gets boring fast, doing it doesn't!