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The Ungodly lie promoted by Chrisitanity! (Read 16424 times)
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Re: The Ungodly lie promoted by Chrisitanity!
Reply #45 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 1:56pm
 
B-dawg wrote on Apr 20th, 2007 at 1:17pm:
DaBears,

You don't even know what "spirituality" means. You don't have a clue about biblical teaching, but you persist in spreading your anti-Christian venom on this site.   Being historically illiterate, you feel compelled to malign a whole religion with your ugly stereotypes.  You would never get away with this unless Moen and your pathetic New Age chronies didn't secretly give your bigotry a wink and a nod.  Therefore, I will stop my research on NDEs and soon cut short my other threads to make constructive use of you and your ilk as my whipping boy.  I've tried to be polite, but when a site lacks house-broken members, it will drip verbal diarrhea.  You bozos only learn through humiliation.   What a joke Moen's guidelines are!  

Don
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DB, welcome to the "threatened by Don" club.
You see, to date Jerkwater (aka Don/Berserk) has threatened to
"humiliate" and use as his "whipping boy":
-Spitfire
-Ra (I think that was his handle)
-Myself
-and now YOU, among others.
Reminds me a bit of Yosemite Sam, ol' Don
does. His arrogance is equalled only by his
ineffectuality..!

B-man

P.S. To Don, "spirituality" means groveling and genuflecting
before power, e.g. "O Mighty One, pleeeaassse don't hurt me,
I'll do anything you say!" *in a high, squeaky voice.*
Understand that fact, and you've understood Don! ('Nuff
said there...)

Grin  Cool
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Reply #46 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 3:12pm
 
[Alysia:] "As far as Howard Storm choosing to send himself into hell..I think that's sick and masochistic. I wouldn't touch that book with a ten foot pole."
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An ignorant and foolish statement!  First, when Howard had his NDE, he was an atheist and believed in neither God nor an afterlife.   Second, when his greeting party beckoned him to follow, he merely followed out of frustration.  He didn't realize he was out of body and had tried desperately to catch the attention of his wife, the nurses, and the doctors.  The discarnate greeters were the only beings who beckoned him and they seemed to do so in a friendly manner.  Only when they lured him away from the hospital into a dark fog did Howard gradually recognize their malevolent intent.  By then it seemed too late.  Howard was lost and had no clue as to how to return to the hospital.  The ensuing prolonged torment and excruciating torture left his spirit only barely aware that he still existed.  Finally, humbled, he soon realized that he must listen to the inner voice that beckoned him to pray for the first time in his life.  Christ rushed to the rescue in response to his prayer, taught him several chapters full of beautiful spiritual insights,  and transformed his life.  Howard became a pastor and  then quit to start an organization to feed and clothe the poor in Latin America.

Don
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Reply #47 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 4:08pm
 
[quote author=recoverer link=1176934246/30#41 date=1177088374]Actually Alysia, Howard Storm's book is a wonderful book. It presents a positive way to be a Christian. He shows a lot of love for God and Christ, and speaks of them as being beings of wisdom and love, not vengeful beings of wrath.  He ended up in a hell like realm because that was the kind of person he was when he had his NDE. Not much different than what Bruce Moen writes. When he asked for help Christ came to the rescue and loved him unconditionally.

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ok thanks Albert. I never read the book. I was having a hard time seeing an image in my head of J letting him go back into hell as posted by a poster, as I know love energy is strong enough to change a person's mind about punishing themselves in a hell environment, which is not real, btw, it's not a location. It "seems" real because what we make in our minds seems to be our reality....PUL changes our reality, I suppose that's what I really want to say instead of what I said..thanks for noticing and letting me correct myself...I must have misinterpreted what I read. I'd hate for someone to "not" read a book just because I said something about it that was misinterpreted. love, alysia
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Reply #48 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 4:11pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Apr 20th, 2007 at 4:08pm:
[quote author=recoverer link=1176934246/30#41 date=1177088374]Actually Alysia, Howard Storm's book is a wonderful book. It presents a positive way to be a Christian. He shows a lot of love for God and Christ, and speaks of them as being beings of wisdom and love, not vengeful beings of wrath.  He ended up in a hell like realm because that was the kind of person he was when he had his NDE. Not much different than what Bruce Moen writes. When he asked for help Christ came to the rescue and loved him unconditionally.

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ok thanks Albert. I never read the book. I was having a hard time seeing an image in my head of J letting him go back into hell as posted by a poster, as I know love energy is strong enough to change a person's mind about punishing themselves in a hell environment, which is not real, btw, it's not a location. It "seems" real because what we make in our minds seems to be our reality....PUL changes our reality, I suppose that's what I really want to say instead of what I said..thanks for noticing and letting me correct myself...I must have misinterpreted what I read. I'd hate for someone to "not" read a book just because I said something about it that was misinterpreted. love, alysia

Yeah, you misinterpreted for sure.. But what you just posted is excellent information about hell being basically an illusion and  PUL changes our reality of hell..

The book is pretty good.. It's just it has alittle to much Christian dogmatic views on the afterlife..
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Reply #49 - Apr 20th, 2007 at 4:11pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Apr 20th, 2007 at 4:08pm:
[quote author=recoverer link=1176934246/30#41 date=1177088374]Actually Alysia, Howard Storm's book is a wonderful book. It presents a positive way to be a Christian. He shows a lot of love for God and Christ, and speaks of them as being beings of wisdom and love, not vengeful beings of wrath.  He ended up in a hell like realm because that was the kind of person he was when he had his NDE. Not much different than what Bruce Moen writes. When he asked for help Christ came to the rescue and loved him unconditionally.

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ok thanks Albert. I never read the book. I was having a hard time seeing an image in my head of J letting him go back into hell as posted by a poster, as I know love energy is strong enough to change a person's mind about punishing themselves in a hell environment, which is not real, btw, it's not a location. It "seems" real because what we make in our minds seems to be our reality....PUL changes our reality, I suppose that's what I really want to say instead of what I said..thanks for noticing and letting me correct myself...I must have misinterpreted what I read. I'd hate for someone to "not" read a book just because I said something about it that was misinterpreted. love, alysia


Don, I'm sorry. My guides will not let me read your posts still. I'm too sensitive to the vibes. I wish you well always.
I hope you get your fondest desires. my wishes extend to all.
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