My first book about this matter was Raymond A. Moody's "Life After Death", it made NDEs known to a wider audience.

The most recent book I finished was the one you mentioned Kroan, "Astral Dynamics". Yes it has many good tips, NEW is good, to look if you are REALLY bodily relaxed is good as well, the trance state chapter etc...
What would be interesting though is a comparison of OBE and the phasing-type of thing where you're still aware of your body. I guess Robert Bruce would put the latter in his category of "astral sight".
Also, once I found me body-asleep-mind-awake in my bed after a dream, and I felt, I knew, someone came in my room, laying down on my bed behind me and melted with my body, causing a fresh cool breeze feeling within me. I never had a really good explanation for this until I read Robert Bruces theory about OBEs, that the different bodies are to some degree independent.
Some of his theories though, I don't know, they must not necessarily be true, there are other possible explanations, it's his way to get his rich experiences in a system.

What really got me on the train, so to speak, were Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books.

Spooky

Hi Kroan,
I recommend all books of Monroe and Bruce Moen, it would be really worthwile to read them in their proper timely succession, first Monroes, then Moens.

Robert Bruce: Yes, realtime sight... the advantage of RS to OoBE would be less trouble with memorizing it, and less fear, disadvantage perhaps less impressing, less "real".

I'll check out the methods RB tells of. One seems for certain, it's not easy. But I really wonder if you can't get similar results by choosing the "phasing" way of TMI and Bruce Moen, and then gradually try to get more "inside" it. Robert Bruces, so to say, very "bodily" approach could be just a chosen belief- or translation- system. This are questions which are worth a research I find.

Spooky

Hi Kroan,

the chronologic order is:

R.A. Monroe
-Journeys out of the body
-Far journeys
-Ultimate Journey

Bruce Moen
-Voyages into the unknown
-Voyage beyond doubt
-Voyages into the afterlife
-Voyage to curiosity's father
-Afterlife knowledge guidebook

That's quite a lot to read; as you have just read a book with many "how to" hints, you might take Bruce Moens latest book at first, "Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook", it's also a "how to" book, not especially for mastering OBEs, but rather for the softer "phasing" method, where you stay partially here in C1, but your main focus is, well, otherwhere. This state is easier to achieve (for most people) than OBEs. Although, Bruce's method can be helpful for having OBEs as well.

Spooky

Kroan - I agree with Spooky about reading the books chronologically.  The exception is Bruce's Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook.  For the rest of the books, both Monroe's and Bruce's explain their experiences.  It's more helpful if you've read the first book before the next one, etc.  If your primary interest is OBE, then try Monroe's first book.  It was his Journeys Out of Body that led to everything else.

Rob

Thanks Rob and Lucy I just ordered the 1st book yesterday and i'm about to check out that freebee link you just posted

  The hardest thing for me to overcome is falling asleep while doing my obe work. I used not have a problem with this but lately it seems that everytime I close my eyes within 15 mins im out cold.  Im gona have to try to set up some quiet times in the morning/ afternoon where I can do  my obe's when i'm not so tired. Everyone says not to attempt obe's in your bed but sometimes the only quiet time you can find is when you are about to goto sleep.  To date i've only had 1 fully conscious obe where I first heard the high pitch ringing in my head, then saw flashes of light and then the shwoosh pop and Whoooahh im out omg check this out, wait i cant move, this seems scary, i tried to turn my head and whamm I was back in my body. Thats only happened once for me. I've had 2 other experiences where I had obes that were achieved through the dream state where I woke up in my dream and started flying arouynd etc  but that wasnt really an obe i mean I cant tell for sure if it was an obe or a dream since they started as a dream.   Anyway i'm somewhat obsessed with duplicating my 1st experience and learning how to attain full control while im out!

Thanks Alyssia,  Yea thats the thing, if you keep trying and trying eventually it will happen. I am SOOO thankful for my 1 experience because it has created all my intrest in this subject. If I never had my 1 experience I know I would have given up by now, I would have thought that everything I read was a bunch of nonsense.  Thank god for my 1 experience

Hi Alysia. I am puzzling over, what is the relationship between "phasing" and OBE? In phasing, we travel with the mind and really, there is ONLY mind, or is that right, do you think? Everything is created by Mind, right? Including the physical and Second Body and other bodies. When we pass over, at first we keep our general physical appearance and shape, only younger I hear, and eventually transform into our real shape, which is pure light. So if we have an OBE, it must be our mind creating our second body for us to travel in...but it can travel perfectly well without any body at all...so um, I get really tangled up in this...do you have any insights? Thanks! Vee