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Question about AFTERLIFE (focus 23, 27 etc)
Apr 14th, 2007 at 5:48am
 
Its hard to believe afterlife (eternal life) is even possible because wouldnt we run out of 'NEW experiences?'

Because as you say (bruce) that the focus levels can be undisquinshible from the physical world, which means you would be experiencing things phsyicaly or so to speak, so wouldnt you "Get sick of things" like we do in this world? Huh So how can one live forever, it would basicly be like living forever on earth, with a few exeptions ofcourse!!!

how can one explain this...  I hope this makes sence
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Reply #1 - Apr 14th, 2007 at 12:03pm
 
It seems to me that with all the infinite different levels of experience in the afterlife, and with the multidimensional aspects to it, it would be impossible to reach the end of all that you could experience.

It also seems that emotional life is different there. There is a timeless aspect to some experiences which excludes the feeling of boredom or repetitiveness.

Also, I believe that love is something one can never have enough of.  It fills us and yet always leaves room for more.

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Reply #2 - Apr 14th, 2007 at 6:37pm
 
Following the note on infinite experiences, you might also find certain experiences so enjoyable that you take part in them again and again, just as those on earth might take up bird watching or role-playing as a hobby. Only, as blink said, you would not be subjected to the "boredom" on often feels here in the physical.
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 12:05am
 
I would not mind liveing on the earth if I could stay young,say 22 forever.George
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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 12:59am
 
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Also, I believe that love is something one can never have enough of.  It fills us and yet always leaves room for more.
love, blink Smiley


I like that Blink.


Gtirlad, running out of new experiences doesn't seem possible to me.  I would think there are endless opportunites for learning and experience, so you keep expanding and finding new things to learn.  The more you know, the more you want to learn. 

Experiencing the afterlife from the afterlife puts you in a different perspective than your physical life's perspective.  "Experiencing things physically" is only a matter of perspective.  Being in a "higher perspective" gives you the abiliity to see a little more of the bigger picture.  We're in a pretty limited perspective here in the physical, so yeah it does seem boring here at times.  Physical life can be like driving down a narrow road with trees on both sides and a hill up ahead, and you have no idea where you're going.  All you see is what is right in front of you.  Yeah that can be pretty boring.  But from a higher perspective you might have a different experience, maybe get a little more information of what's around you. 

Also, if you were in a BST it would be where you wanted/needed to be until you no longer needed to be there.  Then you could move on to other experiences.  That wouldn't be boring would it?  As long as you are learning and growing you probably wouldn't be bored.  I believe we always have the free will to create, be creative, be helpful, explore, etc.  so if you get bored it's your own fault.   Wink
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Re: Question about AFTERLIFE (focus 23, 27 etc)
Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 11:58am
 
Gtirlad,

>> Its hard to believe afterlife (eternal life) is even possible because wouldnt we run out of 'NEW experiences?'  <<

Think of it this way . . .

Let's say that you are somehow able to make the decision to be born into a series of lifetimes and in each lifetime you will be born in a different country on planet earth.  Maybe you decide to take these lifetimes by country, alphabeticalty, A-Z.  Each of these physical lifetimes will have different experiences because of differences in language, culture, religion, history, etc.  After completing all of these lifetimes, about 145 or so, you start again with a lifetime in country A and go through to Z.  In each of these countries it has been so long since your last lifetime there that things have changed.  You'll probably have some new experiences again in each country.  No matter how many eons of lifetimes you live,  "NEW experiences" will always be possible.

But what do new experiences have to do with the possibility of our afterlife's existence?  

>> so wouldnt you "Get sick of things" like we do in this world?  So how can one live forever, it would basicly be like living forever on earth, with a few exeptions ofcourse!!!  <<

Yup, after a while, a few eons or two, or maybe three, physical lifetimes on planet earth could get to be a pretty boring same-old-same-old.  But of course there are always other planets or dimensions we could move to and start that cycle again.  But that will just eventually lead to another boring same-old-same-old.

So, maybe there is something more to our existence as eternal beings than physical, or physical-like, lifetime experiences?  Maybe the answer to your question has to do less with where we experience our eternal existence and more to do with Who and What we really are as Experiencers?

>> how can one explain this...  <<

My explorations led me to the same place yours have led you.  If physical lifetimes are all that existence is about, I am eventually going to get really bored.  After all, if I am an eternal being this physical lifetime stuff, or some equivalent, is going to continue eternally.  And no matter how long you think eternity is, it is actually way, way longer than that.

My explorations have led me begin to learn more about who and what we really are.  It gets more interesting . . .

Bruce
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Re: Question about AFTERLIFE (focus 23, 27 etc)
Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2007 at 12:54pm
 
One could also get to the point where they realize that love, happiness and peace comes from inside. Right now imagine a beautiful meadow filled with life. Could such a mental projection be the source of love, happiness and peace, or does the projection come from the same place love, happiness and peace come from? Perhaps until we find the source of everything our projections get in the way of the love, happiness and peace that are always there.

Boredom has to do with time. What is time?

Why do we create if love, happiness and peace come from inside? Perhaps because we couldn't come to fully understand who we are until we found out what our ability to create is all about. It could also be a matter of the source wanting to share its experience with others, who aren't actually separate even when they seem to be separate.
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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2007 at 7:17am
 
Hey guys!

I really appreciate your responses to my question, it helps one understand the concept more. Dont get me wrong im not trying to put down the possibility of the "afterlife", so sorry if im coming across as a skeptic, I actualy do believe that Eternal life is possible, but sometimes i get theorys in my mind which conflict with my belief, and its good to seek out what others think so i can put those theorys behind me and continue exploring.  

I suppose when we are deceased and have moved onto the afterlife, our physical senses will be left behind and we will incorperate new higher dimensional senses, which may Eliminate the sense of "time" and other things we percieve on earth which may make us feel closed in or restricted to what our imginations allow us to do.

Kinda off topic

In my younger teen years i went through a bad patch where i was experimenting with drugs. I began taking a drug called XTC which was the drug "MDMA" in pill form. This drug released chemicals in the brain called "seratonin" (Its a cheimcal in your brain which is released when you are feeling happy.) From what i remember when i was on xtc, i felt complete sense of overwhelming ecstasy, i had no sense of time, there was like no sense of anxiety, its very hard to explain. In other words it pretty much didnt matter what i was doing,i would still remain content, the feeling could also be described as being in LOVE.
For those who have taking XTC will know exactly what im talking about, but my idea of what we "feel" in the afterlife may be similar to what you feel whilst on the drug. (althought it will be natural not chemical)  Our consciousness would manifest into something so totaly pure, words cannot describe it. I gues what im trying to say is, no matter what you experience in the afterlife, it will be good! So you could experience that moment a million times or more, and you wouldnt get bored.


(Those who are unsure of what the feeling is im talking about, you can take DMT which is a chemical in your brain that is released when you die, but i wouldnt advise it doing it by yourself, do it under profesional supervision)
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Re: Question about AFTERLIFE (focus 23, 27 etc)
Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2007 at 11:52am
 
My research indicates that focuses 23 - 27 are areas that those who have left life in our physical world still act more or less according to the habits of our perceived physical existence. The way I understand it is we eventually come to realize there is more to ithe afterlife than the experiences based on our 5 physical senses and we start advancing in our spiritual journey by moving to a higher spiritual level. Its not a change due to boredom but instead change comes about due to our understanding. I kinda figure on doing/creating things I want to do/want and didn't get the opportunity to while here.  Smiley Then I'll move on. Who knows, maybe I've already done them.
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