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Apr 9th, 2007 at 1:42pm
 
First the attached thread talks about the experiences of a boy, and then a list of articles showing that islamic people have been having dreams about Christ.

http://www.kundalini-support.com/forum/index.php/topic,2053.0.html
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Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:28pm
 
Hello recoverer,

That's amazing! I'd heard of the cleric but not that so many are having this conversion experience.
So do you think that Mohammed was one who helps prepare the way for Christ?

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Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:45pm
 
Barry is a Christian missionary to Ethiopia who is an acquaintance of my parents and regularly visits their church.  The NDE experienced by his ex-Muslim friend Ahmed is as significant as any I've ever encountered.  Ahmed was dying of AIDs in a hospital in Addis Ababa.  One day, a young Christian couple was making the rounds, praying for the sick.  When they arrived at Ahmed's bed, he was irate when he realized they were Christians.  He would later admit, "I wanted to kill them, but I was too weak to react!"  Later that day, Ahmed experienced an NDE.  A luminous figure entered his hospital room and quietly laid hands on him without speaking.  To his horror, Ahmed realized that this man was Jesus--not Muhammad, Allah, or an angel. One can hardly argue that Ahmed projected this identity onto the Being because a visit from Jesus was the last thing this Christian hating imam was expecting.

Ahmed's health immediately improved, although tests revealed that he still had AIDs.   He rallied enough to gain release from the hospital and immediately sought out the Christians.  Again, hands were laid on him for healing in Jesus' name.   This time he was completely cured and subsequent medical tests confirmed this miracle.  

At this news, Ahmed went "berserk" with joy.  He immediately went to nearby mosques and boldly proclaimed his healing and his resulting new faith.  Because his prior role had been to train Muslim leaders, his impact was profound.  Many Muslims were directed to him by visions which instructed them to seek out Ahmed to hear the truth.  Others were healed in response to the prayers of Ahmed and his growing band of recruits.  Soon they were able to convert 3 mosques into churches.  

His Christian mentor, Barry, was concerned about the danger to Ahmed and his converts. They were unphased by their severe beatings and death threats from Muslim radicals.  But when Barry urged Ahmed to take a more low key approach, Ahmed simply mused, "Oh well, I was already as good as dead from AIDs."  Now Muslims struck back with lawsuits to regain control of their mosques.   Worse, in his missionary zeal, Ahmed was neglecting his marriage and putting his wife's life at risk.  She was willing to accept his Christian conversion, but not his neglect.    Barry convinced Ahmed to enter marriage counseling to save his marriage.  Ahmed is far from perfect, but his deathbed experience is a remarkable testimony to the impact of a luminous visit from Jesus during an NDE.

This Ethiopian NDE reminds me of biblical hints that God would want a highly varied response toe NDE Being of Light.

"Do you Israelites think you are more important to me than the Ethiopians? asks the Lord.  I brought you out of Egypt, but have I not done as much for other nations, too?  I brought the Philistines from Crete, and led the Arameans out of Kir (in modern Iraq--Amos 8:7)."

God's confrontation of Israelite exclusivism is prompted by their neglect of social justice and compassion for the needs of the poor.  Amos's prophetic word implies that God reserves the right to communicate under different symbols and mythologies to peoples from other cultures and religious backgrounds.  Indeed, this implication is already implicit in God response to Moses at the Burning Bush at the very foundation of full-fledged Judaism.   Moses doubts the Hebrew slaves will believe in his mission and asks what divine name he should give as his authorization.  God refuses to provide a name and instead evasively instructs Moses to reply: "Tell them, I will be whatever I will be has sent you (Exodus 3:14)."  In the Ancient Near East, people believed that a god's name adequately expressed the god's essence.  So God's evasive reply to Moses amounts to a warning not to lock Him into a doctrinal box.  

God is similarly evasive for the same reasons on two other occasions.  When Samson's father, Manoah, asks for the divine name, his question is brushed off: "Why do you ask my name?  You wouldn't understand if I told you (Judges 13:18)?"  In Jacob's visionary experience of wrestling with God, his request for God's name meets with similar evasion: "Why do you ask me my name (Genesis 32:29)?"  To me, the various identifications of the Being of LIght in NDEs are exactly what biblical revelation would lead me to expect.

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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2007 at 10:00pm
 
Berserk said:  ' Worse, in his missionary zeal, Ahmed was neglecting his marriage and putting his wife's life at risk.  She was willing to accept his Christian conversion, but not his neglect.'

Yes, that is quite believable!  Wink

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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 8:21am
 
Seems strange Jesus would cure a non believer - yet millions of the people who believe and worship him everyday, die horrible deaths.

Were is the justice?
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 9:27am
 
Disease strikes people for various reasons.  When one learns the laws of mind and of healing, one may pray for others and oneself, and use intent to get a healing.  When intent is coupled to love or faith in a loving God, its power is magnified 1000 fold, for it is in-sync with the love of heaven.  I don't think, Craig that those who suffer in the physical and are christians are doing so because of a sentence imposed on them.  In some ways, they/their spirits may see life as suffering and a trial.  Viewed in that manner, they are not truly surprised.  The law of attraction works with the laws of mind.  This notion has been picked up by the self-help gurus all over the world. 

The law of attraction also deals with disease, healing and one's response to it.  These laws of mind, intent, and attraction are universal, available to any who are able to understand them and harness their effects.  There is no favoritism at work here.

I believe a christian would say that any who are open to being saved and God's loved, be they christian or muslim may be saved in this manner.

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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 12:16pm
 
Betson:

I don't know who helps prepare the way for Christ.


betson wrote on Apr 9th, 2007 at 9:28pm:
Hello recoverer,

That's amazing! I'd heard of the cleric but not that so many are having this conversion experience.
So do you think that Mohammed was one who helps prepare the way for Christ?

Bets

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