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PUL, have you ever really seen it?
Apr 6th, 2007 at 7:54am
 
When you get into the topic of our existence, the 3 letter wonder comes into the fold, namely 'PUL'. It's important to a lot of people, but i don't believe anyone has actually seen, or given 'PUL'.

The pure and unconditional is what bothers me, nothing in this world is pure and unconditional. A mother who had a choice between saving her child or another's, would pick hers every single time!.

We are totally selfish creatures, we always add up what we will get if we do something for another, always. If we help another, we do it for praise, for money, for fame or even brownie points with a higher power 'PUL' never enters the equation.

Every single thing a human would call 'PUL' is merely a reaction produced by humans thinking of themselves. Why do you cook dinner for your partner? maybe it's because you don't want the hassle of a fight? maybe you want to make him/her happy so he/she will return the favor? not because of 'PUL'

Maybe 'PUL' is not meant to exist for physical beings. Maybe it's only for the non-physical realms. Who knows?

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Re: PUL, have you every really seen it?
Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 1:57pm
 
   I personally feel that pure unconditional love can and does exist in this physical world. I have experienced it and felt it myself. Whenever I do something out of 'PUL', I expect nothing in return, I just do it because that's what I want to do. I'm not saying that everything I do is out of 'PUL'; just some things. I've read about it and have seen it done by other's as well. Maybe it's from divine inspiration some times, or just a personal wanting to help others. I just know in my heart that it does happen in this plane of existence.

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Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 2:25pm
 
Hi,

Ditto what Ralph said.

So I guess you're asking because you're not aware of receiving any.
I've wondered what happened.
I've wondered if it could cause more rapid healing than is appropriate, if that might throw later stages of healing off.
I wondered if fast progress early on could cause the therapists to overdo later treatments and have too high expectations.
I wondered if it would cause rapid improvement which might cause you pain.
I also wonder if things would have been worse without it. Of course we'll never know.
If you read between the lines I guess you can tell that I sent it at first but not later. I stopped because I got to worrying about all those factors (written above.) If you wish to receive it again I'm sure there are many who would be happy to send it, perhaps at a set board time?

Love, Bets
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Reply #3 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 2:30pm
 
PUL not only comes from our core essence, it is our core essence.  As this energy wells up from within it begins to flow pure, but as it moves we much of the time either block it or distort it because of our fears that we have incorporated into our belief system.  For example, we are usually quite shy about showing our true essence and most of the time we don’t show how much we care or how much we love.  We cover our love up by labeling it, we squelch it to what we think is a reasonable degree of expression of appropriate behavior.  In other words, we don’t allow the fullness of our core to express itself as PUL most of the time.

Sometimes in a moment when we are caught off guard and allow our core essence to flow freely we let go and out comes our core essence in a sudden act of kindness or expression of love or friendship and a moment of close connection is made and PUL is released.  Then, not being able to tolerate the purity of this love and light we become shy and pull away.  It takes only a few seconds for us to feel embarrassed and close off a bit, thereby shutting down the flow of our love.  This happens because we started thinking things like… maybe I did something wrong, etc. and eventually we stop the flow of PUL.  So when we stop the flow of our life force, we contain it and distort it.  We bring ourselves back to what feels “safe” and “normal” because we don’t want to rock any boats… especially our own.  This is the human condition that we all are experiencing and we live in this duality of choice.

Choice is our free will in action.  In every moment we choose to say yes to allow our core essence of love to flow freely by saying yes to a balanced, powerful and safe undefendedness or we choose to say no.  When we say no, we are in a defense mode that blocks our true essence.  And this is what I think healing is all about.  Healing is reconnecting to our core essence in the areas of our life where we have in our psyche disconnected from our core.  When we suppress the love and positive energy within, we also suppress our creativity, our health and our ability to heal ourselves physically, mentally and spiritually.  We always have the choice of aligning with our core or aligning with our ego.  The first heals us; the latter maintains the status quo.

Love, Kathy  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 2:52pm
 
SpitfireReturns wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 7:54am:
Maybe 'PUL' is not meant to exist for physical beings. Maybe it's only for the non-physical realms. Who knows?



Spitfire,

I think this is where you get to the heart of things.  I agree with Kathy that PUL (although I don't use that term) is what we are at our core level of being.  I am not sure that this level of experience is truly on the physical plane of existence.  However, I agree with her that this great love is the source of our health and vitality as human beings.

On a purely physical level, I completely agree with you that most of the time human beings operate from motivations which are basically "selfish" if you want to call it that.  Even altruism, as you have often stated, has benefits to the individual, thus explaining neatly why it is a characteristic useful to the human being as part of evolution.

It is true that if you have a scientific bent to your thinking, there will be little reason for you to assume that such a love exists. There are many examples which you can draw upon to counter the idea that it exists.

But when we feel truly connected with another human being....whether that human being is ourselves, at our core...or to another human being....

does that really matter?

We end up playing word acrobatics.....because there are so many ways to describe this thing....we call love.

love, blink Smiley
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Reply #5 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 3:49pm
 
SpitfireReturns link=1175860467/0#0 date=1175860467]When you get into the topic of our existence, the 3 letter wonder comes into the fold, namely 'PUL'. It's important to a lot of people, but i don't believe anyone has actually seen, or given 'PUL'.
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Hi there Spit. when I was around 18, a flower child in the 60's, I heard a song called "Love is just a 4 letter word.
the song really bothered me because what if it was true? things looked pretty dark if it was true. I didn't know I was setting myself up to discover the truth. I wanted to prove that it wasn't just a four letter word. when I got much older and lived through some experiences, I looked back and found the places where love was expressing and where it was distorted by belief systems. I saw I had never believed I was worthy of love and so I didn't love myself. this kind of thinking meant everytime love was offered to me by another I set up a block so I couldn't receive it or see it, as I had this background program playing this dirge march..I'm not worthy. then later, after not being able to find love, I said, yes, it's true. it's just a 4 letter word unless I can find out how to be creative and extend love without it being distorted by my own selfish need to be loved, and also to extend love, say, for instance, I don't cook for someone unless its for the reason to increase their well being, out of love. but not out of fear that I'll get in trouble if I don't cook dinner. Smiley  so I'd say this falls into a matter of what we want to create in our world, and it's ok to be selfish, it's ok to have desires to be loved, I don't think thats being selfish, it's the human condition to desire and explore PUL. and don't forget PUL makes you see through the eyes of the lover; an expansive mind principle. and it is an energy which becomes like a physical fuel also.
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The pure and unconditional is what bothers me, nothing in this world is pure and unconditional. A mother who had a choice between saving her child or another's, would pick hers every single time!.
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Thats true but if you had ever been a mother, you would know, that the child is you, an extention of you and you are responsible for it's safety, just as the other child's parent is responsible for that child. to be responsible is smart, not selfish.
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We are totally selfish creatures, we always add up what we will get if we do something for another, always. If we help another, we do it for praise, for money, for fame or even brownie points with a higher power 'PUL' never enters the equation.
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you are in the right place Spit. you are asking the right questions and the answers will come.
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Maybe 'PUL' is not meant to exist for physical beings. Maybe it's only for the non-physical realms. Who knows?
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and maybe we're here to make it exist because we are so creative? we need to go look for PUL; is it under a rock? sometimes. is that bag lady that just walked by an ascended being? sometimes I see PUL in the strangest places, but it's always a welcome sight.
I'd say that the first step begins with our willingness to give ourselves away with no thought of getting anything back..then it starts to snowball in the heart.

how could you have too much PUL?



I can see myself in you Craig. and I'm 100% behind you. love, alysia
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Reply #6 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 3:57pm
 
betson wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 2:25pm:
Hi,

Ditto what Ralph said.

So I guess you're asking because you're not aware of receiving any.
I've wondered what happened.
I've wondered if it could cause more rapid healing than is appropriate, if that might throw later stages of healing off.
I wondered if fast progress early on could cause the therapists to overdo later treatments and have too high expectations.
I wondered if it would cause rapid improvement which might cause you pain.
I also wonder if things would have been worse without it. Of course we'll never know.
If you read between the lines I guess you can tell that I sent it at first but not later. I stopped because I got to worrying about all those factors (written above.) If you wish to receive it again I'm sure there are many who would be happy to send it, perhaps at a set board time?

Love, Bets

Hi Bets, according to my studies we live on the planet of Murphey's Law, but we can rise up one or two levels above this law (where anything that can go wrong, does)

also there's two types of healings performed by two different types of consciousness:
to perform a healing through your own picture (voluntary)
or to perform an involuntary healing. Involuntary healing means spirit comes through you without having to do anything because the other person's spirit is pulling it through you.

We could send healing to Spit, but fact is, we already are doing that if he wants to stick around and be a part of this group. He's ours, and we are his. we can't go wrong. Smiley
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Reply #7 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 8:02pm
 
I think to believe that PUL cannot and does not exist would put you at one end of a scale at the other end would be people who believe that every single person is capable of esperiencing PUL.

While in theory if PUL exists then they are right anyone can experience it, in reality in todays world i'd say we are closer to the other end of the scale sadly.
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