indigo13 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 3:26pm:


oh please can u remove this reminder of my post to Don, Indigo?  I've moved much further now. I surely was in an emotional state to say that. I admit I used to see Don's purpose on this board for many years to be in direct opposition to any new age type of thing, but I had to admit the opposing viewpoint only makes the other viewpoint gain strength, for what is resisted, if it is the truth, it will prevail in the end.

and basically what the problem was, Don did not think any of our retrievals were valid, and he wished to do one himself but felt he could not do one.
I think he can do a retrieval, but it's up to his soul, his own higher self when and where and not for me to judge him in any way.

nah, I don't believe in antichrist, but there is a negative energy on the earth which we must guard against to not let it come into our house, our soul.
keep positive. we will be shown everything we need to know for the day at hand.
love, alysia

Hi Alysia----
This past April I attended the Guidelines program at the Monroe Institute and had the opportunity to use the TMI Lab (a room that is soundproof). I was hooked up to a monitor and listened to the hemi-sync.  While I was in my meditation, a Higher Intelligent Being (HIB) told me that in three years the HIBs will make themselves know on the planet Earth and finally help up to clean up the planet.  (this is very succinct) Now, another participant went into the lab several hours later, went  into a different level of meditation and received a similar message of help from HIBs in 2011.  So, yes-- a change is coming.  I had been angry in a previous meditation and asked why, when we were a part of THEIR DNA-- that we are told THEY won't interfere with the beings on Earth.
My argument is---THEY are the DNA of the beings on Earth, so what the heck are THEY waiting for???
Yes--- help is on it's way.  Unfortunately, many of us will already be dead and in another dimension!

Sure would like to--- but I am having some health issues. I go for a colonoscopy  in 2 weeks.  I sure would like to see our HIBs in person (and not just spirit).  That would truly be a miracle!

According to the information obtained from the Dead Sea Scrolls and the pyramid alignments and the Michu Pichu pyramids, all the changes were to begin between 2007 and 2011.  Many ancient symbols and "seers" also predicted that those years would bring about a new spiritual awakening. Of course, I heard the same thing back in the 60's with the dawning of Aquarius. 
And thanks for the well wishes. I hope to be around for a while, as I find the "new awakening" very exciting and I would like to be here to help. 
When I was at TMI (the Monroe Institute) many of us kept getting "orbs" appearing in our photographs--- whether we were using digital or the disposable.  I thought that was pretty neat. Well, after I showed my grandson some of the orbs, he left to go skateboarding and he took his little pocket size digital camera with him.  His friend took a picture of Tim on the skateboard down in the basement, and like on "que" (spelling not my strong point) a orb appeared in the picture above Tims shoulder.  If I could figure out how to attach the image, I would. My grandson was ecstatic.  He asked me what it meant--- I said it was a sign or symbol from the HIB's.  He liked the answer.

Greetings All:

I am a new poster this time around, but a long time reader who was registered under another name several years ago. I didn't post much then and likely won't be doing all that much posting now, but I did want to put the following website up for pro or con comments on it (if any) or even its relevancy to ACIM as it is discussed in this forum.

http://www.hometown.aol.com/groom51s4/page5.html

It was listed as a link on http://www.rense.com recently, and some of you may have already seen it. I have absolutely no idea whether or not there is any validity in it, and in all truth, I have no dog in this fight, (possible poor analogy). When I read ACIM years ago I was somewhat bored with it, but certainly will not deny the possibility of its significant benefit to others who perhaps are more astute and tuned to those particular frequencies than myself.  

After many years of research, and a few articles published, my approach to the so-called "supernatural/paranormal/metaphysical" is that of course it exists, but there is nothing at all "supernatural" about any of it, and it is only yet another life function based on theories and phenomena of quantum and sub-atomic particle behavior which at present remain undiscovered...perhaps at about the same stage as wireless communications in the late 1800's.

There is progress being made however, and Michael Roll's and Victor Zammit's respective sites are good sources of information on the latest developments.

Reason Rules

quote from ReasonRules:
It was listed as a link on http://www.rense.com recently, and some of you may have already seen it. I have absolutely no idea whether or not there is any validity in it, and in all truth, I have no dog in this fight, (possible poor analogy). When I read ACIM years ago I was somewhat bored with it, but certainly will not deny the possibility of its significant benefit to others who perhaps are more astute and tuned to those particular frequencies than myself.
____

hi and welcome to the board. I am a student/teacher combo of the Course since the mid 80's.  It's a self study course/pathway. the premises are tested by the individual over a lifetime. The entire Course supports what is taught on this board regarding the belief systems and how what we believe becomes the premise for our life's reality outpicturing.

The are 50 fundamentals of miracles, which the reason I bring it up, you are totally correct there is nothing supernatural going on but what we qualify it so.
The course will say if a miracle is not happening, something has gone wrong.
To put it that way, brings a miracle, a change of mind really, into our lives by disclaiming there is anything supernatural, and therefore out of our reach to attain or accomplish.

While there are other pathways equally valid, the course will state it's teachers are not to defend it for that would be counterproductive to it's message. so of course I will not defend it but I may from time to time share what I learned, which helped me become more of myself, a more happy camper as it were.
so if you found it boring, that's because your makeup seeks another type of pathway; it seems you have a scientific mind and I respect that. I am trying to blend science and religion myself, and it takes a VERY long time! lol!

I have learned each pathway is unique, beautiful, and respectable. The transformational value it gave me was something within the soul, not unlike what the Christians of earlier time called being reborn. in spirit. This transformation is best seen from the actions of the person whether than what they communicate in words.
Amazing grace that saved a wretch like me, something to that effect, some here would understand. some would not. all is well. all will end up the same place eventually.

meanwhile, thanks for your post! love, alysia

btw, it does not brainwash, we can brainwash ourselves quite efficiently without the use of a book. the choice remains ours what to believe, what to not believe. In essence the course told me what I had suspected all along, I am love in essense. but I am not alone in this respect. All at their basis start out as love in essence, then it gets covered over by society's belief systems imposed on the young and we become conditioned to suffer. When we realize we are still as we were before coming here, we enter into the oneness of all paths, and all peoples, and all of planet Earth, and what she stands for as a place to manifest what is god.

thanks for the listen.

The below is a big statement. Forum members have a variety of belief systems.  Bruce's story of Curiosity and meeting with the creator, and Robert Monroe's meeting with the Creator, suggest that the universe was created on purpose, while ACIM takes sort of a Vendantic approach and states that the universe was created independent of God, despite what he thought was best. These two viewpoints really seem to contradict each other. 




[quote author=laffingrain link=1174596312/60#70 date=1181865035]
quote from ReasonRules:
The entire Course supports what is taught on this board regarding the belief systems and how what we believe becomes the premise for our life's reality outpicturing.

One of the major discoveries of possession research is precisely how evil typically deceives.  Evil typically reveals the truth to set up an important lie.  
The truth might well resonate with the target and teach her something significant.  But the real issue is whether she will then fall prey to the trap.  For example, consider the ghastly possession case that inspired the movie "The Exorcist."  The young victim was merely trying to contact his beloved late Aunt Harriet through the Ouija Board.  But the boy got deceived and then ensnared in an increasingly virulent possession.  

ACIM acutely raises the question of the crucial point at which the clever blending of truth and error must trigger an inner warning to stay away.  Clearly, the inspiring entity is not Jesus of Nazareth as it alleges.  Equally clearly, the entity seeks to gain authority and trust through this ruse.  This insight informs my conviction that the entity behind ACIM is truly evil.  It totally distorts what the historical Jesus taught.

But how can an honest inquirer ignore the impact of 7 years of channeling "Jesus" on the medium Helen Schucman?  If she was merely depressed in the aftermath, I would not construe this as a negative sign.   But she becomes more than depressed, more even than clinically depressed; she develops a fatal case of depression psychosis, the worst case her psychologist friend Dr. Groeschel had ever witnessed.  Dr. Groeschel was close enough to her to serve as her funeral eulogizer.  He was famous for debunking alleged demonic possession cases, and yet, he is convinced that Helen Schucman was likely possessed and killed by the severity of her possession.  

This thread has inpsired me to retrieve my boxed ACIM set for a more thorough examination and refutation.  I initially stopped reading it after discovering several false statements about Jesus and early Christianity, but I now see the need for a comprehensive refutation of its many claims that can be tested on historical grounds.    

Don