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Reply #45 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:32am
 
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Reply #46 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 12:20pm
 
Ahso:

I brought up Seth because you provided a Matthew quote that included the name Seth.

Regarding what Don said about Helen's depression, outside of the fact that I question whether Christ would channel himself in the manner supposedly done with ACIM, would he choose to do so with a woman who ended up becoming deeply depressed? Would a lady who had so much contact with Christ end up depressed?

Regarding dreams about the matter, I asked for one last night, and received one.

I entered a railed car that was bigger than railroad cars tend to be. Especially in terms of it's width. On the side opposite of the side I entered, the guru I used to follow and his supposedly enlightened side kick were in attendance along with their followers. I can't remember the precise feeling, but it seemed odd to be there with them because there was a general understading that these two men weren't the enlightened beings they claimed to be. When it came to the sidekick, the issue of what will happen to him when he moves onto the afterlife came up.  There was a young man in attendence who was in trouble and wanted to get help from this sidekick after the meeting was over.

Just before I exited the railroad car I noticed how detailed the gizmos were by the railroad car's entrance and exit. The dream became super lucid and I realized I was dreaming. I took some time to notice how real everything sempt.

After doing so I existed the railroad car with another guy. There were a lot of people walking round. I noticed this lady walk by who has been used as a symbol for my connection to Christ. She is kind of angelic looking. I told the guy I was with that I have to go, because when I meet up with this lady we usually dance.  She walzed with a man in a public circle where other people waltzed. I stood next to her as she did so because I wanted to look at her beauty real closely. I saw that all over her body she had imperfections coming out of her skin. Black molds and such. She stopped dancing with the man so I could cut in, but I ended up dancing with the man who was sort of a doofess.

My feeling is that the lady represented my trying to make contact with Christ through ACIM. Pretty when you glimpse superficially, but when you look real closely you find impurities. The black spots reminded of a message I received one time about how people have spotted Christ's reputation. She passed on the guy to me because it was time to say goodbye to her and ACIM.

The waltzing in a circle is a way of stating that ACIM cycles the same concepts over and over again without ever getting anywhere.

The meeting with the guru I used to see took place in a railroad car, because it was a way of saying that I was being railroaded when I was with him and his sidekick. The young guy in trouble was a symbolic way of saying the troubled asking the troubled for help. In the end he asked for help from a man who's own destiny is dubious (we're talking about a man who has really manipulated a lot of people). I experienced something relating to my old cult in order to show what ACIM is about.

Some people might say that something more definite pertaining to ACIM is needed in order for me to make the connections I made. I know from experience that if I ask a specific question before I go to sleep, I tend to get an answer to the question I asked. I also get feelings and thoughts when I go over a dream and ACIM came into my mind. I also believe that the super lucidity I experienced served this purpose.

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Reply #47 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 12:37pm
 
Albert, would u please stop associating ACIM as a cult. I do not appreciate this kind of slam from someone I respect, or used to respect. it is not a cult, will never be one, and I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with a cult in your lifetime.
this set of material is a self study couse and you get out of it what u put into it.

a cult on the other hand is where a group of people go to an island and feel forced into drinking coolaid so they can go to heaven whatever. usually there is a charismatic leader, such as a Hitler type.

ACIM on the other hand does not force you into any thoughts or actions, and if you cannot feel the unconditional love emanating from it's pages, you simply can make a choice to put it down and go pick up other material more suited to you.
now if you don't mind, let's put this thread to sleep. and i'm not going to let you keep me from talking about the benefits I derived from reading the course and for the FIRST time in my life I felt that god loved me just as I was, faults, black spots, whatever! I AM loved! You are loved too, and I'm going to keep on loving you no matter how much you slam my pathway as a cult. because this is what it taught me.

now leave it alone please. you're making me feel like shit. btw, I have guides the same as you, lets not get into that. last night I dreamed you fell flat on your face in the sand. you did it for me. I know you're doing this for me. I know we love each other. I know you're part of my disc. you put on a show for me, falling on your face. I brushed the sand off your face, I thought u were hurt but you weren't. I laughed and laughed, you were so funny, and you did it for me. you did it for love.

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Reply #48 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:00pm
 
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Benedict Groeschel, a priest and psychologist, was close enough to Helen to be asked to give a eulogy at her funeral in 1981.  Benedict writes: “This woman who had written so eloquently that suffering really did not exist spent the last two years of her life in THE BLACKEST PSYCHOTIC DEPRESSION I have ever witnessed. “


I find it interesting and odd that someone who was probably hostile to the process was asked to speak at her funeral....

Found the same thing at another site:

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Fr. Benedict J. Groeschel, C.F.R. is a psychologist who was an acquaintance of Hellen Schucman.  He gave a eulogy at her funeral. Fr. Groeschel wrote: 

"This woman who had written so eloquently that suffering really did not exist spent the last two years of her life in the blackest psychotic depression I have ever witnessed."  [26] 



ref "[26] (Page 79 of, "A Still, Small Voice, A Practical Guide On Reported Revelations", by Fr. Benedict J. Groeschel, C.F.R., Ignatius Press 1993) "

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http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina31214.htm

(interesting site by ex-Muslims who are opposed to that religion on philosophical grounds).

What does Ken Wapnick say about helen Schucman's last two years?
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Reply #49 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:15pm
 
Why is this same thing quoted over and over?

http://www.ewtn.com/library/NEWAGE/COURSE.TXT

Of course, if it was on Eternal Word Television Network; it must be correct.

But in reading over this essay, it occurred to me that the different Christian divisions each like to claim they ate the one that got it right, so I guess the criticism of the Course is just an extension of that process.

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alternate view? I'm out of time and can't explore thisnow:

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?pageID=2&discussionID=157045&me...
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Reply #50 - Mar 28th, 2007 at 1:29pm
 
well I never trust the media reports-they speak from their own interpretation and words.

furthermore, we all go through depression periods in our lives. seems to be a part of the human condition. here on this site we simply call it a belief system crash.
as we grow no matter the means that we grow and become, we will go through uncomfortable periods which can be interpreted by others as depression, or somehow not right, bad, or whatever.
I rather enjoy crashes and welcome my periods of morbidness...I know I will come out on the other side of that and I feel that Helen contributed to life a great service, as she was a psychologist who saw that the establishment and the "rules" just weren't working anymore.

her and Ken used to have fights all the time, round and round their egos battled, year after year. how redundant huh? so they one day prayed together.
this is how the Course got started. They prayed together for an answer to stop the bickering.
It was a last ditch effort, as they worked together. The situation of disagreeing and nit picking had to end; they couldn't just walk away from their relationship, their careers were on the line.
Prayer always works if one is sincere. It's a release, an acknowledgment that we are stuck and need help. It's a giving up of a repetitive pattern which leads nowhere but to more of the same. after years of such bickering anybody would throw of their hands and say I can't deal with it anymore.
also people like social workers, pychologists, nurses, these people are in the helper professions. day after day they come in contact with those of us who are suffering and looking to these for answers. too often these experience "burn out."
especially when nothing you can say helps the situation, and the standard rules of dealing with the folks who we call mental, or schizo, all these labels for illness, the book learning only goes so far and quits.
Burn out means you have to change careers or build up your reserves of strength somehow to continue.
Instead, her and Ken had enough wisdom to discuss their problems and they decided to pray, even though I don't think they were into religion.
so they were reaching for a straw while they were drowning. I see this happen all the time. when you "give up" thats when an answer comes.

and find your answers inside yourself...not in the news by somebody who thinks they have an important opinion..if they are not coming from love, they are merely bolstering up their own fears and projecting it out onto somebody else out there.
we project all the time and listen to the one who has the loudest voice but we don't need to listen to vexatious people anymore..they don't know any more than us.

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Reply #51 - Mar 29th, 2007 at 12:49pm
 
augoeideian wrote on Mar 28th, 2007 at 9:32am:
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Then newbies will not post. They will think we are all holy rollers. worshiping an antique god and bowing before his majesty who has come to save us from delusion.


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JC spirit is still on Earth Caryn. everytime you do a retrieval the spirit of compassion is the same as what he preached; u don't think just because his body of flesh is gone that he's not interested in us anymore do you?   we are all going to be ok no matter what your eyes tell you. his spirit speaks thru any who will let the message come into the mind. I'm part of his disc because I want to be, and this is a choice. if I relate to Christ consciousness as a human/spirit its because I'm a human/spirit and need that personal touch.  and if anyone is bothered that I do this, just consider this is my focus point right now because of what I felt and heard while experiencing the course concepts internally with a huge presence beside me asking me to make the effort to follow thru with the study before I let myself die of an illness.
  we don't have to agree that it is his voice to hear what the message is, to love one another. one of the affirmations is "I and my brothers are one. I trust my brothers who are one with me. Then if you believe this, you see something beautiful in everyone you meet, the way he did. If I didn't believe this, I'd be having a much more difficult time with my life instead of the peace which descended which passes understanding.
JC's image is distorted in the new age of which I am a part. the body of Christ is still active though, in PUL and can disperse itself through any means at it's disposal, books included.
like I said, he wouldn't be accepted to come back as flesh and blood, thats like asking aliens to make an appointment with the president. lol, take me to your leader! har! The security guards would go nuts!!

I hope the Christians aren't expecting that to happen...you gotta go within, not without. I don't think intellect is gonna get us anywhere though, as we just go round and round. love is the only answer. and equality within love.
now let me get off my podium, lol. we are all one. love appears to be a mere decision to trust and allow.

and I wouldn't be here alive if not for the Course. many of us die young because it's not easy staying alive. we all have our struggles here; thats what the Earth is about...lol..its not another day in paradise like an old friend used to say but I appreciated his positive nature.
oh, these words, are just words, twice removed from reality so no need to get uptight over just words. we'll all be meeting up at the same destination soon enough and the view looks good from where I'm at.
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Reply #52 - Mar 29th, 2007 at 3:24pm
 
   I believe that Yeshua is still very much using a physical vehicle, and has been for a long "time" from a linear perspective. 

  I believe that "He/She" of Monroe's 3rd book, is actually Yeshua sort of in disguise, or laying low more so.   As Monroe perceived, He/She was very much a physically incarnate person in our space/time cycle.   In fact, that's how Monroe ended up meeting He/She, because he set an intention to his Total/Higher self to 'meet the most mature person living in my space/time', and his T.S. said yeah sure, but it might not be what you expect.   Boy was it ever not what he expected and quite a pleasant and perhaps at first confusing surprise.   Monroe was especially surprised not ever being relgious at all and thinking very little of Christianity.

  A some 1800 year old human who doesn't eat nor sleep at all, but just constantly works different jobs, and someone seemingly known about from certain things Monroe says (man i wish i could quote this book verbatim!).  I wish i could have seen the looks on his face after he was told He/She's approximate age and all the just above, and when he figured out exactly who this person was.  Probably went something like.. Shocked, then maybe Grin   

  Yep, Yeshua has been with us both in Spirit and in body since the Resurrection.  He promised he would never leave, and he hasn't except for the those 3 days of hanging out purely in the nonphysical dimensions.

  Oh, and he will go public again, just as he promised or as he said channeled through one TMI explorer, 'do not expect me in the form of a man, the time has not yet come yet' and also says, 'in truth i never left'.  Will still be awhile yet before mass public appearances, and he won't go public until other Christed Beings (both human and non-human) make some appearances in-physical to get the Crowd ready for his return Wink (different reasons for this, but mostly to emphasize Universality and that no one is special and above any other).   Once they do, and once people are ready, he will walk and talk with groups and individuals for awhile, but then leaving again so that we can concentrate on spiritually developing to his state. 

  This all will be after the major part of the physical aspect of the changes and the destruction of various governments and the overall "civilization" (which isn't so civil to begin with).   Some "messengers" for and from him, will show up even during the middle of these changes.
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Reply #53 - Mar 29th, 2007 at 4:17pm
 
I wonder which book Monroe discusses meeting he/she? Far Journeys probably? I've forgotten all about this part.
a couple of people I know are reporting having talked out there with JC or Yeshua. I think I like the name Yeshua better just because of the distortions on the name Jesus.

I really believe my friends when they try to describe these meetings even though my own familiar feeling stems through a group of spirits asking me to choose ego power or the way of JC. duh. I wasn't in a position to start arguing! Grin    I almost remembered the man at that point, or just the love part. so I believe my friends when they say they made contact, its just really hard to describe such things, and they become embedded as precious memories so you don't want to talk about them much, as you get heaps of negativity usually.

thats good to hear, the things you say Justin. you remind me of a visionary. makes sense about preparation too. timing, all of that, syncronization of events. even shades of destiny for mankind, but if someone announced today they were the Christ returned, specifically Yeshua, I don't think anyone would believe him, and it could be that he would be able to manifest in more than one physical body, as a matter of fact I'm certain of this. in destiny of souls its reported our higher selves do not put our totality within the flesh vehicle and this would account for limited C1 mentality, always striving to complete itself and be whole. and also Destiny of souls reports one soul being able to have two lives at the same time, in different parts of the world. having 3 lives at same time is not recommended as safe. Smiley

hey! spreading yourself a little thin old bean? Roll Eyes what we might say to someone with too many irons in the fire.
must be part of that experiment thing I heard about.

well, these things we talk about must sound really strange to some, like science fiction..what a board..what a board!
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Reply #54 - Mar 30th, 2007 at 2:13am
 
  Hi there Alysia,

  The account of Monroe meeting Heshe is in his 3rd book, Ultimate Journey, and more specifically runs from the bottom of page 50, to the top of page 55.  Fairly brief overall, but they have quite an interesting "conversation", which includes the topic of the Changes and the probable severity of them, etc.

The channeling of Christ by a TMI explorer, is in Far Journeys starting on page 60 and ending on 61.

  Yah, i'm sure this stuff will sound pretty strange to some.  Many question, "but why would Yeshua stay in physical?  What need is there?"  They automatically dismiss the idea, they do not realize that true service encompasses helping in all dimenions all the time, for we are "stuck" in all dimensions (to varying degrees) and its only when we phase to a dimensionless state of being, that we are truly and completely free and yet then we can partake of any and every other dimension such as our elder brother who is our second father as well--as Yeshua says at the end of that TMI explorer session, "my children, abide in me".   This is not just a nice saying, this is truth.

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even shades of destiny for mankind, but if someone announced today they were the Christ returned, specifically Yeshua, I don't think anyone would believe him,


You're right, many would not believe him today, many did not even believe or see his true nature when he was public before, and so the circle cycles, one note and pattern of notes gets played again, and again, and again.   Even some of his friends and family doubted him, even with material "proofs" of his abilities gained from full Source resonation.


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and it could be that he would be able to manifest in more than one physical body, as a matter of fact I'm certain of this.


Surely, and he exists everywhere all the time, so don't we, we just don't fully realize it yet, nor do we tap into like he can.  He could show up to every single human in the Earth at the same time, in a physical body, and meanwhile show up to all nonphysical consciousnesses in nonphysical "form" as well, all simultaneously.  This is what "infinity" means, it is limitless because its all encompassing.

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in destiny of souls its reported our higher selves do not put our totality within the flesh vehicle and this would account for limited C1 mentality, always striving to complete itself and be whole. and also Destiny of souls reports one soul being able to have two lives at the same time, in different parts of the world. having 3 lives at same time is not recommended as safe. 


  It must be remembered that many of the personalities and their Total selves which were "interviewed" in his books, are not particularly spiritually developed, many of them what some might call "young Souls" (though this is really a misnomer).    Thus, the highest and most broad info does not come through necessarily though the overall picture is more or less correct when synthesized.

  As far as having multiple selves occupying physical bodies within the same time/space cycle, in reality this is not much different than the simultaneous all lives from various time/spaces happening at once, theory.   What happens is that material minded consciousnesses get stuck on space and time, on numbers.   The Soul in touch with its true nature, is not limited by these.   However, at the same time, why would a Soul fully in touch with its true nature and i mean completely such as a Yeshua/Heshe type, why would they need multiple lifetimes going on?   They wouldn't, its much more pragmatic to keep it too one projection within space/time yet that self not being limited by space or time.   

   Oft, those who have 2, 3, or more lifetimes going on within the same space/time cycle, are more spiritually developed than the average (but not yet completed), and are seeking to balance much karma, fulfill many things, etc. in a more concentrated and swift way.  The more spiritually developed, the less and less limitations within space/time and being limited to such.  It is no biggy for a very developed Total self to have many lives within same space/time, there is no real drain for these are like holograpic images of the real self, the core, the essence, the projector and the Light which projects the images. 

   What limitations there are, are the lack of available material bodies within a material world, and particularly more ideal condtions around same.  We do not individually control that, unless we create a body from scratch.    Yeshua did this in other space/time cycles which were faster vibrating than ours has been up to very recently.   

   This Total self, projected such personalities into the material without the necessity of birth, such as the Priest King of Salem, or otherwise known as  Melchizedek the perfected.   This was and is an aspect of Yeshua's Total self, who was created or rather manifested into physical without the experience of birth, or of physical death.   He phased fully into body, and fully out with body.

   Yet, this takes a particularly developed Total self to accomplish and special conditions as determined by the Creative forces within the Whole.  Not many could do this now, as of yet, and so the body numbers and numbers of Total selves looking to get lifetimes in this unusual cycle is a very real "limitation", and will be even more so after the physical part of the changes culminates.   Won't be too many Total selves then running around with more than 2 selves in that space/time cycle.   

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hey! spreading yourself a little thin old bean?  what we might say to someone with too many irons in the fire.
must be part of that experiment thing I heard about.


   At one point, i believe i had 3 lifetimes/personalities going on in this space/time.  One died a little while ago.   There was such a draw to this man (close to my age), which i couldn't explain and when asked a sensitive, i got the answer, "he is your psychic twin", now i realize we was an aspect of my immediate "disc" as Bruce puts it.  Interestingly we had some similar abilities, inclinations, personality aspects, and even physical looks had a good amount of resemblance.   

  His first name was/is John, and i have at least 2 other Johns within my Disc that i know of from different time/space cycles, and it seems that this "present" John was a bit more interwined with these other Johns, more so than i Justin (though i've dealt with issues from those Johns as well).  And so his life was a bit more on the darker path than my own, balancing difficult karma from those two very extreme and destructive to others lives.   Probably also why he exited at a young age, our Total self probably thought he was somewhat stuck in that path he was at, and since i'm around and decided to stick around, it was ok for him to take his rest in the nonphysical and to continue the journey.

  He was very happy to have transitioned.  I had a very warm dream about him taking up a new residence in a "dorm" like area, and he was very happy.   A couple or few weeks later, an old friend and mutual aquaintance of ours, called up and blurted out, "you know John ..... just died a little while ago, a car accident!"   I was a bit surprised when i heard this, but then this dream popped into my awareness and i realized what it was about and that i already knew because we had visited and he let me know what happen.  I hadn't remembered having a dream about him for at least a year or two before i had that recent dream then. 

   I did not feel sad at all, because i knew he is happy in his new life. 


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Reply #55 - Mar 30th, 2007 at 5:49am
 
Are you an avid book reader Justin? you seem to have a lot of knowledge from past centuries. and I was noticing your tag, is that your birthdate Jan.9?  for some reason I thought you were a Leo or Virgo but Jan 9 is Capricorn I think.

nine is a very good number, looks like you're going to finish up then! yay!
thanks for the page numbers of Bob's books, I just went and re-bought them I'll check it out.
were you born in Los Angeles like me? Smiley in 1980 would make you only 27 or so.
I was just wondering how someone as young as you can have all this book knowledge, so it must be you brought some of this with you in memory? thats a little unusual but does happen. hope you are not overwhelmed with the memories. I guess you are getting some help handling it. thats my feeling.
you have two others with you..they are both male, but you are the leader of them, I think they learn from you mostly, and they seem younger if that means anything. they consider themselves your aids. they are not in a physical body.

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Reply #56 - Mar 30th, 2007 at 3:40pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Mar 30th, 2007 at 5:49am:
Are you an avid book reader Justin? you seem to have a lot of knowledge from past centuries. and I was noticing your tag, is that your birthdate Jan.9?  for some reason I thought you were a Leo or Virgo but Jan 9 is Capricorn I think.


  Hi Alysia,

  I use to be an avid book reader, not so much anymore.  I've given a lot of books away, though my collection is still somewhat large.

   Yup, i'm a CappyFull of korn, but my birthday is Jan. 8th.   9 is my "Life path" or "Destiny" number indication (add all the birthdate numbers up).  It's really 27 which reduces to 9.   Got a lot of 9, 3, and 7 indications in my full numerological chart.   It's odd how it keeps repeating, even when i use my full birth name, or my more common name.

  Are you into numerology too?

  Hey, Leo and Virgo are good guesses though, i have Leo Rising, and our Rising sign's correspond to our physical body and temerament, kind of like our personality--so i definitely do act like a Leo sometimes (i'm too open and self expressive sometimes).   And i have a pretty good dose of Virgo as well, with North Node, Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn all in Virgo.

  I don't really go by the signs as much as some students of astrology, i generally look more to the Planetary forces, i see signs as more "wavering" indications.   Jupiter is my 1st and strongest, Uranus-Neptune about equal and 2nd, Venus and Mercury pretty strong.   Developing Solar consciousness more and more. 

Btw, we both have Libra Moon, i believe.

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nine is a very good number, looks like you're going to finish up then! yay!
thanks for the page numbers of Bob's books, I just went and re-bought them I'll check it out.


  Don't know, i suppose its possible, i've gotten guidance and dreams along that line, but i'm trying to be unattached to stuff like that.   Your welcome for the info.  What's your life path number if you don't mind me asking?

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were you born in Los Angeles like me? Smiley in 1980 would make you only 27 or so.
I was just wondering how someone as young as you can have all this book knowledge, so it must be you brought some of this with you in memory? thats a little unusual but does happen. hope you are not overwhelmed with the memories. I guess you are getting some help handling it. thats my feeling.
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   Yup, i was.  I got smog lungs Cheesy    I'm young?   Well, i feel and have felt pretty "old" most of my life.   Unfortunately i look very young even for my age, if i don't keep the full goat-tee, i look like i'm 17 or so some have told me.

   I didn't really come in with a lot of specific memories as in definite images, and what not, but i came in with a lot of feelings about things.   When i hit puberty (and boy did it hit hard), i started to think a lot about God, the nature of the Universe, the Soul, and stuff like that.   I felt on a deep level that all things were connected, that there is a oneness, and i sensed that there were other realities or dimensions beside the physical.   I also started investigating psychism because i have always been able to read people really well, and i noticedearly on the "people registering the feeling of being looked at" phenomenon.

  When i read or picked up books, i went more by the feeling i got in relation to that book, there were some books which had interesting stuff in them from a mental or intellectual standpoint, but i just didn't get the feeling to read them or in some cases got a definite feeling i should NOT read or more so listen to them.   Other books, like Bruce's, Rosiland's for example, i got very good feelings about and innately trusted a lot of the info.   It seems i was pretty open to guidance about being led to certain books, ideas, belief systems, and other people.

   While i have a pretty developed left brain capacity and tendency, some things i really easily accepted early on, like it was an automatic knowing, stuff like about Yeshua and him really actually having revivified his physical vehicle after he died, stuff which for most left brainer types, would normally be pretty hard to believe in or even contemplate as real or truthful.  Nor was any of it indoctrinated.

   But, all in all, i don't consider myself that consciously and actively psychic, i'm not here to develop psychism and psychic abilities.  I think sometimes people, especially like folks on sites like this one, don't really understand that.  Course, i'm as curious as most here, but it just feels like my C1 issues are more important of a focus.

   Do you know anything about the Nodes in astrology?  They are very old symbols used, which are not actual planets, but the intersection points relating to the Sun, Moon, and Earth positions.    Astrologers and astronomers use them to figure out when we will have a Solar or Lunar eclipse. 

  In astrology, some more spiritual or karmic oriented astrologers, give a lot of weight and deeper meaning to these two symbols, the North and South Node.   The North node more or less symbolizes one's more "Dharmic" path, and the South Node represents one's major Karmic pool, what you developed too, gifts, abiltities and/or weaknesses from other experiences brought in. 
Oft times the South Node has a really strong "pull of the past" symbolically speaking, meaning we can become too attached to our South Nodes, become too comfortable within that expression because its familiar.    But, the North node calls to what we are not as familiar with, and takes us out of our comfort zone, hence it can be difficult to move into the North Node direction, but its also the direction of greater growth.  Ideally, these will become perfectly balanced and merged one with the other, and instead of two separate parts, it will become a Whole.

   I definitely recommend checking our your own North and South Node placements (they are always exactly opposite each other).    Anyways, my North node (dharmic path) is in Virgo and in the 1st house, meaning i'm here to focus on Virgo like issues and themes more so.   Virgo is the discriminator and analyzer of the Zodiac, its really good at seeing the individual parts and seeing their relative relationships to each other.   Also deals with health, diet, work/jobs, and material stuff like that since its an "earth" sign. 

   Pisces South Node signifies someone who spent a lot of time and focus on mystical, psychical,  and spiritual matters, and/or serving others along those lines .   Pisces is the most energy sensitive  and receptive symbol in the Zodiac, it's very right brain and is the personafication of the element Water (fluid to the nth degree), whereas Virgo is very left brain.   

  In my life, i've actually had to get away from focussing on that too much--in a sense getting away from Pisces or more so trying to balance it with Virgo which for a time requires more concentration on Virgo till they come into a greater balance, i'm here more to concentrate on the nitty gritty of C1 and its issues.   I get the sense that once i've mastered my Virgo lessons, and use Virgo only positively, then that other side of me, the Piscean psychic and mystic side will become fully conscious and active. 

  Both the opposite signs Virgo and Pisces represents service (but on different levels, Virgo more so C1 service, and Pisces more so spiritual guidance type), it is the axis of service.

  Interestingly, what my chart describes symbolically, some sensitives/intuitives have strongly picked up on as well, and pretty much said something similar to the above.  A couple have told me that i have unbelievable potential and innate talents/abilities for psychic awareness and development, but that it is being blocked right now.

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you have two others with you..they are both male, but you are the leader of them, I think they learn from you mostly, and they seem younger if that means anything. they consider themselves your aids. they are not in a physical body


  Thanks for the info, don't know what it means, but i will keep an open mind and heart in regards to it.   

With PUL

P.S., i don't think Albert was trying to hurt you at all with his words about ACIM.  He has a good heart and means well, he's just skeptical and wary of anything which seems to try to brainwash people.   It may be that he hasn't let go of his past enough, but that's a different subject and its not our place to judge.

  Personally, i think there is a lot of good in ACIM, but in any case, ideally it shouldn't matter too much to you, what either Albert, i, or anyone think or say about ACIM.   If it's helped you, then that's all that matters, be secure within yourself.   ACIM teaches that's it's not helpful to worry about what others say, do or think, just ourselves.

  Sometimes some say critical or derogatory stuff about the Cayce readings, which i'm attached to and very fond of, but i when others do that, i realize that it doesn't really need any defense, the material speaks for itself (look how many have been helped physically/health wise, mental, and/or spiritually by it), and so what if someone doesn't fully understand or accept things in there?   I also keep in mind and heart that they are not personally putting me down, when they put down something i'm fond of and attached to.

   

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  Are you into numerology too?
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in a superficial way. I do the reduction thing automatically if I get numbers in dream, I reduce them and try to decipher the meaning of the numbers. I like 9 and 11 as my favorite numbers. nine finishes, 11 is a top spiritual number, but I don't read numerology or astrology anymore, I'm into psychology more than anything else.  I find astrology is  mathematical, which I am right brained, not left brained, and the left I associate with numbers. Im into the music where that is also based on mathmatics, but in a different way than astrology.   it is a mathematical universe. I like to use astrology as a way to be sociable, and found the descriptions of the energy of each sign, I have compared to the folks I've met, it's always what the book said concerning sun signs but I look no further than the sun sign in general, too many variables to keep in mind and can't put people in a box as they always manage to climb out of it!! lol. good thing too..
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Btw, we both have Libra Moon, i believe.
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yes we do. what does that mean according to the book?
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[quote]nine is a very good number, looks like you're going to finish up then! yay!
thanks for the page numbers of Bob's books, I just went and re-bought them I'll check it out.
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  Don't know, i suppose its possible, i've gotten guidance and dreams along that line, but i'm trying to be unattached to stuff like that.
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yes, sorry to flatter you unduly. I just like the nine number as I like to finish tasks before I start on another, so I associate this number as a good finish number.
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  What's your life path number if you don't mind me asking?
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lol. I played a little game. I renamed myself Alysia so I could take my first and last name and make it an 11.
so what all is the official, right way to get your number, and what if you don't like your number?  Cheesy  I think you said take the birthdate, added to the name vibe? I think I can be any number I want, so I don't follow the rules Smiley
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   Well, i feel and have felt pretty "old" most of my life.
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I started out old too. I'm young feeling now. its a great feeling to be a kid again. I just decided it was ok if I want to feel young.
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   While i have a pretty developed left brain capacity and tendency, some things i really easily accepted early on, like it was an automatic knowing, stuff like about Yeshua and him really actually having revivified his physical vehicle after he died, stuff which for most left brainer types, would normally be pretty hard to believe in or even contemplate as real or truthful.  Nor was any of it indoctrinated.
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the fact that you easily accept some non  mainstream concepts is where your potential lies in serving others. as you say, it was not indoctrinated and there is the key.
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   But, all in all, i don't consider myself that consciously and actively psychic, i'm not here to develop psychism and psychic abilities.
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we can begin I feel to put a new slant on things though, and instead of going around saying, yehoo, I'm psychic, we can just say my awareness has expanded to include concepts and perceptions about life that formerly were not there...you know, that word psychic has to go as it causes separatism, my opinion.
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   Do you know anything about the Nodes in astrology?
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only what u mention here, and I just learned from you that nodes are relative to movement of the planets, movement is relative to time, time and space are one thing.
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   I definitely recommend checking our your own North and South Node placements (they are always exactly opposite each other). 
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at age 60 I feel I don't have a lot of time to check out my south and north nodes anymore, lol!  I hve too many irons in the fire to do the intense study of astrology as it is a lot of calculation, but I'm going to do piano, so that is mathmatical too as it has the internal counting to do.
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  A couple have told me that i have unbelievable potential and innate talents/abilities for psychic awareness and development, but that it is being blocked right now.
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I only accept positive comments from others. I can feed myself enough negatives to last a lifetime..
I think I've told you this before..I don't know but that you felt something when you met me..long time ago...I feel I found you out there and  asked you to come to this board. It was an obe situation.
I saw you were sitting by yourself and I told you I had once felt the same way as you and I wanted your help on a project I had planned. I talked to you a long time about the abilities I saw within you..out there, we discussed this. shortly after our talk you showed up here and I recognized you. I was looking for people to come here..I wanted the best of the best. I found you and saw you could grow here, you could find yourself here with us. and you fulfilled all my expectations of you for what it's worth and I know there's more ahead.
we sure did crash each other's walls, didn't we?  Cheesy  or maybe I needed you more than you needed to be here, so I've thought about that some and concluded it was a mutual agreement. you called it "being friends a long time." still don't see another time frame affiliation, but don't think in linear time, so can't say for sure. not sure if it's important and I never treat for my own miracle, so I think it was meant to be as it occurred.
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you have two others with you..they are both male, but you are the leader of them, I think they learn from you mostly, and they seem younger if that means anything. they consider themselves your aids. they are not in a physical body
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what I saw this time about these two entitiies is that you help them more with their evolvement than they help you with yours; sort of a vow you made with these to serve them by letting them serve you.
I also saw this picture of the 3 of you in a war zone somewhere, 3 close buddies who knew if they stuck together, they had more of a chance of surviving, staying alive, at that time a strong bond of love developed, as it would in such circumstances, to be looking out for one another, saving each other and protecting each other. you may have saved their lives and now they try to repay you.  they may be invisible guides, they may be in service to learn how to guide, to be helpful. one is more volatile than the other, but you can deal with him easily through your love. they are, and you are very much into understanding energy chakras, and making a type of reiki adjustment on those chakras, this to be developed later on in life. they participate with you in these type of healings much like observer/trainees.
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You didn't ask for all that, I'm just sharing what I saw in my mind. throw it away if it is not useful or helpful as thats my only intention to share what I saw.
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P.S., i don't think Albert was trying to hurt you at all with his words about ACIM.
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we had a long talk privately. I shared a dream. I love Albert unconditionally. we are at a balance again. I understand his experiences a little better.
thanks for your understanding, I get too attached to my own path emotionally. then I can get on my silly podium..god help me. just laugh me off.
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  Personally, i think there is a lot of good in ACIM, but in any case, ideally it shouldn't matter too much to you, what either Albert, i, or anyone think or say about ACIM.
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yes, precisely true..it shouldn't matter what others think. even ACIM says that. this was all for my benefit so I could make an ass of myself. that was fun.
I guess I need to be able to do that once in awhile and still be able to get over it with friends. thanks for your leavening skills while I uncorked myself.
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  I also keep in mind and heart that they are not personally putting me down, when they put down something i'm fond of and attached to.
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sometimes people get over protective of others too, where they may think you are misled and they want to protect you from your..ah...distorted ideas...so it still means they are coming from their perception of what love is...so it's easy to keep that in mind, and not take it personally..if I can just remember this.. Smiley

   thanks for the chat...love, alysia
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LaffingRain wrote on Mar 26th, 2007 at 11:15pm:
you Don are the saddest person I have ever met in my life. you are like the antiChrist to me and I never used to believe in the antiChrist until just now.

goodbye forever Don. Such bad vibes waft off your posts.

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Reply #59 - Jun 7th, 2007 at 3:36pm
 
Whoa-
This is a disturbing little tantrum!  Goodbye forever?  Doesn't the Course teach that Don is your brother?  That you'll be spending eternity with him?  If you really adhere to the Course's teaching why do respond as though you are genuinely threatened?  Does having a difference of opinion make someone the antiChrist? Honestly! Don deserves an apology and you should practice some of the tolerance and compassion that the Course teaches.  This venomous and childish response reveals some serious problems in the spiritual path that you have undertaken:  perhaps it just doesn't work for you.
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