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Is there law in the spirit world?
Mar 22nd, 2007 at 9:56am
 
Ive often woundered if there was law in the spirit world.If there is,then maybe we wont be able to do as we like,and there might not be free will there.George
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2007 at 12:18pm
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2007 at 3:10pm
 
Yes there is law in the spirit world.  You are not allowed to fly over 55 mph or you will get a speeding ticket.
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2007 at 3:20pm
 
I Am Dude wrote on Mar 22nd, 2007 at 3:10pm:
Yes there is law in the spirit world.  You are not allowed to fly over 55 mph or you will get a speeding ticket.


 Ah, so that's what it was when i was "pulled over" by two deep blue colored beings!  And all this time, i thought it was like attracts and begets like...well they must have "liked" me cause i didn't get an astral ticket. Cheesy

 Ok, well i can smell the korn a'popping, and as of late, i'm on a no-korn diet so i'm out of here (but going under 55 this time).
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2007 at 5:18pm
 
thats funny about being pulled over by astral cops. have a story myself about that.
I think love is a law George. I believe in order of the universe. for instance, a friend of mine Bob McKelvey once gave us a post of trying to go outside of that order of operation. He's an ober and lightworker of the highest order. my opinion (he gave me Reiki healing out there)

he was attempting to break through a barriar and a guide turned him away and said no, you've not progressed enough, or you're not allowed beyond this point yet. so that would be similar to some sort of law operating. there seems to be doorkeepers who watch over our doings.

Justin, I had this dream, yours is much better, but a few cops stopped me as I was speeding out there in a car with no shoes on. (shoes mean foundational thoughts) they told me to put my shoes on, which just happened to be near the gas pedal. they then told me laughing, that I'm just like everyone else who "goes ahead of themselves" and that they were here to serve me, not put me in jail. and they did not give me a ticket as I thought they would!  so I woke up and thought about what patience means, and what having faith meant.
dreams can be so beneficial this way.

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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2007 at 3:59pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Mar 22nd, 2007 at 5:18pm:

Justin, I had this dream, yours is much better, but a few cops stopped me as I was speeding out there in a car with no shoes on. (shoes mean foundational thoughts) they told me to put my shoes on, which just happened to be near the gas pedal. they then told me laughing, that I'm just like everyone else who "goes ahead of themselves" and that they were here to serve me, not put me in jail. and they did not give me a ticket as I thought they would!  so I woke up and thought about what patience means, and what having faith meant.
dreams can be so beneficial this way.

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  Hi Alysia, interesting dream there and deep themes, patience and faith.  Your's is definitely better than mine, cause i was making stuff up to just joke around. 

  Thank you for sharing your dream though
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2007 at 4:19pm
 
oh Justin, I thought you really were pulled over by two blue light beings Smiley haha!
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Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2007 at 11:28pm
 
george stone wrote on Mar 22nd, 2007 at 9:56am:
Ive often woundered if there was law in the spirit world.If there is,then maybe we wont be able to do as we like,and there might not be free will there.George


Imho , there is less freewill in spirit but more power to manifest or create for the greater good .
For example the human  has freewill to murder ot commit other acts of non love against the body of another . But the soul and spirit are  more precious than the body and imho  freewill to cause harm beyond the body does not apply.

I have witnessed dire consequences for dark magicians and I am happy to see that our souls and spirits are not as vulnerable to the inhumane acts humans perpetuate against each other.
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A human can love ,forgive and heal another freely. But astral vampirism ,rapes and attacks do not bring the slap on the wrist of a community justice system.Such dark acts are self limited.

The perpetrator begins to suffer in kind, losing ability to project , see clairvoyantly  or manipulate energy . They become anxious, depressed, self -destructive and self limiting.

The dark magician raises their dark watcher who remains obedient to godhead . This part of self begins to destroy the mental and physical wellbeing of the dark magician. Just as all  acts of non -love lower our vibrations making our immune sysytem weaker and our clairience decrease.
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Reply #8 - Mar 31st, 2007 at 11:49pm
 
George, I believe the law in the spirit world is perfect freedom...love is perfect freedom...it is vast and wide and bigger than our hearts can comprehend.  I believe that there is no sense of limitation in the spirit world.

The love there is bigger than we are, and yet expands what we conceive as ourselves to include us in its huge embrace.

Don't worry. love, blink Smiley
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"he was attempting to break through a barriar and a guide turned him away and said no, you've not progressed enough, or you're not allowed beyond this point yet. so that would be similar to some sort of law operating. there seems to be doorkeepers who watch over our doings. "

Oooh THANK YOU Alysia, I really appreciate that. It really helps fill in
the picture, a part I did not have enough on.

I also especially appreciate your story of being a ghost that stayed around haunting your tribe. That also helped fill in a picture.
Like you had that choice, so it was not against the rules?

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Reply #10 - Apr 1st, 2007 at 1:43am
 
Aunt Clair, that is interesting. I seem to be getting better at
clairevoyance. I might like to think that being more pure had something to do with it, but donrt know.

I would like to hear more about dark magicians, and what happens to them. Also, exorcisms are very interesting, for what they reveal about spiritual reality.
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Reply #11 - Apr 1st, 2007 at 2:24am
 
Boris wrote on Apr 1st, 2007 at 1:31am:
"he was attempting to break through a barriar and a guide turned him away and said no, you've not progressed enough, or you're not allowed beyond this point yet. so that would be similar to some sort of law operating. there seems to be doorkeepers who watch over our doings. "

Oooh THANK YOU Alysia, I really appreciate that. It really helps fill in
the picture, a part I did not have enough on.

I also especially appreciate your story of being a ghost that stayed around haunting your tribe. That also helped fill in a picture.
Like you had that choice, so it was not against the rules?

Love,
Boris



Hi there Boris. Bob McK. should tell us that story again or I might misinterpret. his nature is to push the envelope a bit even here in C1 so I wasn't surprised to find he is the adventurous sort!  George somebody said love is a law, Recoverer did. yes he's right about that. love is a working law. what you give you get back. works like a charm.

couple of times I met and talked with people I see as doorkeepers. I had to explain what my business was, who I wanted to see, and my intentions, if my intentions were to benefit the person then they would go and get him. so I don't know if this is a law, but they were like security guards, and yet like ordinary people at the same time.

thank you for reading my Indian story Boris. I think my heart got opened during that time so that was very nostalgic for me. the powers that be considered I had no identity outside the tribe, so I was allowed to be there and not forced to move on and I could make myself useful by watching over them. they said I was heroine to not kill the babies, but I had no choice in that when you love something u don't kill it. the time going by didn't mean anything. and I learned to dance then in the astral. The chief was someone I listened to and he let me do as I please after giving me options to stay or leave. it wasn't like a sacrifice to watch them, it was like vicarious enjoyment of learning to be a helper from another standpoint. it's not like there is a law that you have to leave, but the chief said I could grow also by doing this, so he let me make a decision..if he'd said leave, I would have left so much I respected his wisdom. also the Indians were more openminded about spirits with them.

George, you already know this I'm sure, theres some counselors who help you look at your life, to review it. thats like a law, but they are very kind. its like a mind expansion process.
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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2007 at 8:42am
 
Boris wrote on Apr 1st, 2007 at 1:43am:
Aunt Clair, that is interesting. I seem to be getting better atclairevoyance. I might like to think that being more pure had something to do with it, but donrt know.I would like to hear more about dark magicians, and what happens to them. Also, exorcisms are very interesting, for what they reveal about spiritual reality.

I just found a link in the archives here to a site by a lady named Mary who works as an exorcist by coincidence today .
The Home of Vibrational Health
http://www.mkprojects.com/fa_TibetanRites.htm
I wrote her to ask about a new entity my peers and I do not understand . Normally , we will learn our lessons about new entities to us in meditation , visions and dreams . This one remains illusive . We have little information . None of us hear as well as we see spirit teachers in my circle . So I wrote her for advice .

In this particular case , the victim is a medium and a healer . She is a lightworker and it has been our experience and understanding that innocents rarely get attached , influenced or possessed .

Imho , lower level negs are chaotic harming by proximity . But I believe as do my peers in the Judaic understanding that Samael is not a fallen angel but the chief prosecutor of God who punishes the wicked with demons . I have found that the archdemons we have met are obedient to the Godhead . They do not attack the innocent but "make the punishment fit the crime ".

So yes I feel the universe is spiritually much more orderly and lawful than Christians are taught . I am an eclectic person in my beliefs but I am a Catholic Mystic mainly . And I feel in this case that the OT has it right and the NT has it wrong .

The new entity looks like a scorpion or lobster and wraps its legs into the face of the victim thru the brow centre nose mouth and ears . It was easily removed . It hissed but it seemed unable to communicate otherwise . The bad thing is that another one was found on this lady the next week . The first one was full engorged with her energy and seemed unusually jewel toned in colour .

Brighter colours are generally higher vibration good spirits . Darker negative energy is often in shades of muddy or gray colours . It seems that the first one fed off of her and became coloured up the second one was gray and smaller and seemed to be newly attached .

I have seen smaller astral wildlife forms but not something this large and menacing . It seems bigger than wildlife and much smaller than a demon .

On another tangent , we have witnessed a spirt court of justice and have read about one in other forums also . Has anyone else heard of a spiritual realm which had a courtroom?
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Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2007 at 3:01pm
 
Aunt Clair quote: On another tangent , we have witnessed a spirt court of justice and have read about one in other forums also . Has anyone else heard of a spiritual realm which had a courtroom?
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not me, but I have conjectured we have courts over there the same as here as I don't see the two worlds as different, but like reflections of one another.
and my friend mentioned above is a lightworker who visited a hell. he did not see the court room, but he visited a prisoner who had put himself in jail in this hell. he thought he belonged there.
thats all I know, that if u have a conscious you convict yourself..but I know theres a few negs out there have not developed a conscious..I just don't go to see them.
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Reply #14 - Apr 3rd, 2007 at 4:31pm
 
I don't know for sure, but.... my daughter who passed, came to my son (her brother) and took him to the otherside, and from what she told my son.. there are laws! and so much more.
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