Hi THIS IS SOMEONES OWN EXPERIENCE ,HES CALLED JUSTIN,I GOT THIS
OFF THE NET.

Last month, I too thought I committed the "unpardonable sin," the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Last week after giving in to a sexual temptation, I was mad, not at myself, but at the Holy Spirit for allowing it to happen. I now it is naive to have blamed Him. When I realized what I had done, I sunk further into depression because I thought I blew my salvation and blasphemed the Holy Ghost. I was so horribly worried about it, you can imagine.

So I emailed a bunch of people in different ministries, read a bunch of people's websites on this, all of them saying I probably didn't blaspheme the Holy Ghost because I felt bad about it. I hated the "probably" and I couldn't open the Bible to read because it was just too painful to read; my carnal mind condemned me repeatably. I went outside and I cried, tears in eyes, to the Holy Ghost, repenting and remembering all the good that He had done in my life. I said something to the effect of, "you've changed me so much, now you're gone..." But then I heard a still, soft voice whisper, "I am still here..." I knew it was Him. Then I asked Him to show me what blasphemy is and He took me through Scripture:

I saw this in Matthew 12: "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." But then I lowered my eyes to this verse: "Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." Even though I felt, at the time that I supposedly "blasphemed" the Holy Ghost, anger against Him, I knew as I read that verse that He revealed to me that God knew my heart. He knew it better than I ever did and ever will. Then the Holy Ghost led me to this Scripture: "God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us" (Acts 15:8). We learn from this Scripture that God knows the heart, or spirit of man, better than anyone including yourself--this means that if you at one time felt anger against the Holy Ghost and maybe said anything mean to Him, even something horrible, Jesus's Blood will atone for you because, even though you thought you meant it, you really didn't. Besides, you said it in your carnal mind, which controls the realm of emotions, intellect, etc. The Bible says that the carnal mind is ALWAYS emnity against God! Emnity! I also learned that anyone who loves God is justified from ALL THINGS (Acts 13:39)! Furthermore look at these two wonderful Scriptures: "For if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved" (Romans 10:9-10).

Now look at this: "But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed" (Romans 2:5). And then look at this: "The blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven...[for] out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks [not in this age nor in the age to come]" (Matthew 12:31-34). Are you catching the vibe, here? When Jesus says "speaketh a word" He doesn't mean it literally. He means that whoever has such an unrepentant, hardened heart, capable of saying "You have satan in You" and then never ever being convicted that he did any wrong in saying so, whether due to unbelief or even if that person knows that Jesus is God (like the Pharisees), then that is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Ghost led me also to a site called Tektonics.org, and I read this article. Don't you see? The Holy Spirit was the One who first convicted you of the sin if you yelled at/cursed/thought a bad thought again Him! But the fact that you still run around thinking you've blasphemed Him is no more He but demonic oppression. Look, "The Lord [does not want] anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9)!

One last thing. For anyone who is scared of this Scripture: "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace" (Hebrews 6:4-6), the word for fall away in Greek is "parapipto" which means apostasy or renunciation of one's faith. This doesn't mean backsliding. It also doesn't mean "I HATE YOU GOD, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!" and then coming back to faith with Him within a year or two. It means that after renouncing their faith, their hearts became so hardened and set against the Gospel, they simply CANNOT be restored to repentance! God has died for their sins, and they once believed and knew God personally, walked with Him and everything, and then decided to go against Him, just like satan and the fallen angels! They can't repent! It's too late for them! Jesus only died once for people's sins! He can't go back and die again for those of whom committed the ultimate blasphemy of the Holy Ghost--unrepentant hardness of heart and leaving Him and rising against Him--that would be disgraceful to God!

So enough with your carnal minds thinking you've blasphemed the Holy Spirit. It's great news: YOU DIDN'T! The Holy Ghost leads me and is with me all the time! I'm so happy and blessed that I didn't commit the unpardonable sin! Read this Scripture here, "for [the Lord] is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil" (Luke 6:35). Now if the Lord is kind to sinful and unthankful people, He'll certainly be kind to you who want to get right with Him! Pray this prayer:

Dear God, I love You so much with all my heart and soul. I've been scared and horrified, worrying whether or not I committed the blasphemy against the precious Holy Ghost. I am horribly sorry for [whatever I did.] I may have felt it at the time, or maybe it was just an accidental thought, but I know that you know my heart better than I know mine. I will no longer fear demonic words that I committed the unpardonable sin. I did not blaspheme the Holy Spirit in my heart at all. I may have said some evil with my tongue, or with my brain, but not with my heart! I love You more than anything, and I want to know the Holy Ghost and be His best friend! Thank You for forgiving me, for you are the most merciful in all existance. Thank You so much, dear Father, in Jesus's Name. Amen.

Hallelujah! You're back!

- Justin

I have researched on this subject for a long period of time.. Since, I worried for the longest time about the unforgiveable sin.. I have gone through so much research on this subject... So, finally I stumbled upon this remarkable article.. It rings with a lot of truth.. PLEASE READ!

THERE IS NO UNPARDONABLE SIN!

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaks a word against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come" (Mat. 12:31-32).

I am glad that Jesus said that all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men. I believe that is true. ALL manner. There is no kind of sin, which because of its kind, or manner, is unpardonable. The enemies of the truth of the ultimate salvation of all men have relied on this dissertation about the unpardonable sin given by our Lord, as their outstanding bulwark of defense against those who affirm that Christ is indeed the Saviour of all men, the Saviour of the world.

Invariably, when the certainty of eternal torment is discussed and doubted, the sin against the Holy Ghost is brought forward as an impregnable defense against forgiveness hereafter for at least one sin. Few know how to reply. Here is what the Lord said: "But whosoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

On the surface it seems conclusive to the unthinking; and it has equally seemed so to learned theologians who have been trained in the channels of orthodox thinking. Yet, as a matter of fact, these words of our Lord are among the strongest collateral evidence that can be produced in support of the truth of the reconciliation of all men to God. Hearken! A sin against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven in this "world," nor in the "world" to come.

While the King James version states that the sin against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world nor in the world to come, that is not quite the meaning of the Greek. The Greek word here translated "world" is AION. This word AION has been translated into fifteen different English words and phrases, many of which convey the wrong meaning entirely. The simple meaning of AION is "age." An AION is "an age." Two AION(S) are two "ages." A thousand AION(S) are a thousand "ages."

Some of the passages where AION is found will give us added information concerning it. In Eph. 2:7 we find, "in the ages (aions) to come." In Col. 1:26 we find, "the mystery which has been hid from ages (aions)." In Eph. 2:2 we find, "you walked according to the course (aion) of this world." In Heb. 1:2 we find, "by whom also He made the worlds (aions)." In Hebrews 11:3 we find, "the worlds (aions) were formed by the word of God." In about fifteen instances, such as Mat. 12:32, I Cor. 1:20, etc., we find it rendered "this world (aion)." Twice we find "this present world (aion)." In Gal. 1:4 we find, "deliver us from this present evil world (aion)." In Eph. 6:12 we find, "the rulers of the darkness of this world (aion)." In II Cor. 4:4 we find, "the god of this world (aion)." In I Cor. 2:6 we find, "the wisdom of this world (aion)." In Mk. 4:19 we find, "the cares of this world (aion)."

How much clearer and understandable it would be if the translators had used the correct word age instead of world! In Mk. 10:30 we find that there is not only this present aion, which is evil, but also "the world (aion) to come." Certainly this present age is an evil age, and the rulers of the darkness of this age are evil. Clearly God framed the ages, and there are not only "this age" and "the age to come," but there are also "the ages to come" (Eph. 2:7).

Any thinking person should plainly see that if you translate a word which means an age by the word world, you immediately get the wrong idea. It is incorrect and brings nothing but confusion. There is a great deal of difference between the expression, "It shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come," and the expression, "It shall not be forgiven him in this age, nor in the age to come." The translation in Mat. 12:32 of "world" instead of "age," has been the source of an altogether erroneous concept. This "world" and the "world to come" has become so indelibly impressed on the Christian mind as meaning "this life and eternity," that it is next to impossible quickly to reverse the trend of belief and direct it into sound thinking. It makes all the difference in the world when one understands that our Lord was not contrasting "this world" with that "great eternity out there somewhere," but merely pointing to two ages: this age and the age to come.

Now let me quote this passage from several well-known, highly respected and widely-accepted Bible translations.

The Amplified Bible compromises the Greek AION, using both world and age to translate. "And whoever speaks a word against the Son of man will be forgiven, but who ever speaks against the Spirit, the Holy One, will not be forgiven, either in this world and age or in the world and age to come."

Young's Literal translation says, "Whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming."

Wuest translates, "Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age nor in the one about to come."

The Weymouth New Testament reads, "Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit shall obtain forgiveness neither in this age nor in the coming age."

The New International Version renders, "Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

The Emphasized Bible (Rotherham) says, "Whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him either in this age, or the coming."

The Concordant New Testament reads, "Whoever may be saying aught against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be pardoned him, neither in this eon nor in that which is impending."

These words of our Lord, so far from proving that the sin against the Holy Spirit is "unpardonable," distinctly assert, - first, that ALL MANNER of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men, - secondly, that some sins, those, namely, against the Son of man, can be forgiven in the present age, - and, thirdly, that other sins, against the Holy Ghost, cannot be forgiven either in the age when Jesus came to earth, nor in the age that would immediately follow; which last words clearly indicate that some sins not here forgiven may be forgiven in the next age. That is what the text plainly says. It says absolutely nothing about a sin that is "unpardonable" throughout endless ages to come!

We should not fail to note the wording of our Lord's pronouncement as given in Mk. 3:28-30. To overlook this would invite a charge that it was unanswerable.

"Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith so ever they shall blaspheme: but he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost has never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."

The correct original is "has not for the eon (age) forgiveness, but is in danger of eonian (age-during) by judgment," - thereby giving it quite a different meaning from the translation in the "Authorized."

My Greek-English Interlinear reads, "But whoever may speak evil to the spirit the holy, not has forgiveness to the age, but liable is of age-lasting judgment."

A free translation would be, "HE that shall blaspheme against the Holy Spirit has not forgiveness to the age, but is held in and liable to the age-lasting process of judgment: because they said, He has an unclean spirit."

Amid the crowd of sins there stands out one in sad pre-eminence because it has not forgiveness "eis ton aiona," - for the age. Its forgiveness demands ages - two ages, to be exact - after which, obviously, there is forgiveness!

I Am Dude wrote on Mar 17^th, 2007 at 7:26pm:

Amen! lol

BTW I got that article from a Christian Universalism site..

Wow Don.  Did my statement bother you that much?

Let me explain myself.

Good and bad. They are illusions.  Proof:  What is good in the eyes of one is not neccessarily "good" in the eyes of another, and the same goes with "bad."  They are perceptual concepts that vary from person to person.  Therefore, it can be said that there really is no good and bad, they are just illusion.  

So if a bad deed is considered a sin, then the same principles apply.  A sin in one's eyes may be a good deed in the eyes of another.  It is all governed by one's perception, and since no two people have the same perception, there can be no real sins or good deeds.  They are illusions.

Lets take this a step farther.  We can realisticly say that everything, the whole universe, in a illusion.  Why?  Because it only exists in our minds, and in our brains.  What we are really seeing every day are not physical things, but energy vibrations.  These energy frequencies are converted by our brians to look, smell, feel, taste, and sound the way they do.  But they are not this way in reality, only in our minds.(This is all proven by science, namely quantum mechanics)  Although the world may be similar to all, it is not the same to all due to variations in perspective.  Everything we know of in the physical world is simply electrical signals being converted by our brains to give us senses.  In reality, everything is an illusion.  It is simply energy vibrations.  

So with this being said, I ask.. if things that seem physical are not even real, how could you possibly believe that a concept that varies with each different individual perspective, such as a Sin, is NOT an illusion??????

Dude,
You conveniently ducked the falsififiability principle and my illustrative analogy.  What is it about this prcnciple you don't understand?  Both your explanations completely miss the point.  (1) If "good and bad" are merely in the mind of the perceiver, then yoiu have no moral grounds for objecting to torture, since your assailant's motives might reflect his perception that as a non_Muslim, you dseerve to be tortured.   Criteria for afterlife porgrss such as progressive mastery of PUL would also be meaningless, For if such criteria existed, they would by definition serve as the basis for morality.

(2) Also, you misuse the term illusion.  Modern science embraces quantic mechanics, but does NOT claim the unverise is an illusion.  According to modern science, the "energy bibrations" are not all the same; indeed, their unique patterns determiin the perceived shape of physical reality.  By virtue of these correspondences, the universe of unseen energy patterns is far from illusory.

Don

I think you all have trouble accepting the fact that I AM RIGHT!!!!!!!

Can you honestly tell me that good and bad are objective concepts? 

Of course they aren't.

Like Don said, someone torchering me may think it is good or righteous, while I may think it is bad or evil.  Same action, different ideas of right and wrong, good and evil.

I do not deny the concepts of good and evil.  The concepts exist.  But they only exist in the minds of those percieving them, they only exist in the minds that believe they exist.  Therefore they are technically illusions. 

There are no polar opposites with infinite love and conciousness.  Everything is one. 

I am not saying a serial murder can do no wrong.  A serial murder can do wrong.. but the wrong is in the eyes of the beholder. The concepts right and wrong are subjective.  In his mind, perhaps he is doing right.  In the victims mind, perhaps he is doing wrong. 

Don, perhaps the criteria for afterlife progress is mastery of PUL and spiritual advancement.  But perhaps these too are all illusions held within our minds.  Perhaps the criteria for afterlife progress is simply returning to infinite consciousness, where right and wrong do not exist, where everything exists as one.

I do not misuse the term illusion.  An illusion is somthing that you percieve, but it is not really there.  The red chair I am sitting in is not really here.  I think it is because I can see its color, feel its texture, smell the piss on it from my cat, taste the piss on it from my cat, and hear it creak.  But it is simply energy vibrations that my brain is converting to a physical form.  In its true form, it is vibrations of energy.  If I were to "see" it in its true form, I would not see what I see right now.

Dude,

You are like the Fundamentalist who, when challenged to defend his biblical views, just continually quotes proof texts.   You are ducking all the issues and merely preaching your New Age DOCTRINE.  To pretend any rationality, you must be able to specify how you could discover your erroneous thinking, if in fact you were wrong.   Your dogmatic posturing implicitly insists that you are RIGHT, and no evidence could even theoretically dissuade you.   Thus, your position is as meaningless as the kook who persists in his claim to see a little green man eating toasted tofu sandwiches, despite the fact that no one else can see him.

Dude, your next two claims are self-contradictory:
[Dude to Matthew:] "Can you honestly tell me that good and bad are objective concepts?  Of course they aren't.  The concepts of good and evil...only exist in the minds that believe they exist.  Therefore they are technically illusions." 

[Dude:] "Don, perhaps the criteria for afterlife progress is mastery of PUL and spiritual advancement."

If PUL is one basis for afterlife progress, then "good and evil" are defined by PUL and its relative absence.  That means that "good and evil" help define how the universe works, and in that sense are objective realities and not all in the mind, as you suggest.  Part of that objective moral reality are all the principles that make objective the distinction between "pure" and "impure" love and between "conditional" and "unconditional" love as well as its opposite.  Otherwise, your use of the  3-word expression, "Pure Unconditional Love" is meaningless jibberish. 

[Dude:] "I do not misuse the term illusion.  An illusion is something that you percieve, but it is not really there." 

I'm afraid not.  Webster defines "illusion" as "an unreal, deceptive or misleading apperance or image."  There is nothing depeptive about reality.   We all know very well that most of an atom is space and that ultimately reality can be conceived in terms of energy waves.   But that reality is still objective if there is a correspondence between the atoms or type of energy waves ahd the objects we experience.

[Dude:] "There are no polar opposites with infinite love and conciousness.  Everything is one."

This New Age claim absurdly begs the question.  Once we postulate a Creator or universal consciousness, then even dualism postulates that all reality is ultimately One, since it derives from the One [Creator].  If there are no polar opposites, then there is no free will and PUL has no value.  The Creator (Universal Consciousness) alone exists and the ecistence of separate selves is an illusion.  But set aside your preaching for a moment and asnwer this question: if the Creator is omnipotent, why can't "He" (it) create self-contained units of consciousness that operate independently of "Him" (It)?   If units of consciousness are genuinely independent, they can create polar opposites like good and evil.  Now please stop ducking the falsifiablility criterion.

Don

Don's last two arguments are worth thinking about.  Dude, think of it this way; if there is truly no good or evil, no right or wrong, than there would not be any hells.  We hear that after a life review people often see the unloving/unkind moments in their lives, and then, may not feel worthy of heaven and PUL.  They thus therefore consign themselves to a hell.  We also hear that people who revel in masochism and hurting others are attracted to hells that indulge these loves.  The great realization by Bruce and others has been that we are here to learn about the expression of PUL.  The further we are away from PUL, the further we are away from God.  This sets up a necessary good/evil equivalent (as Don stated).  
Saying that there is no good or evil, right or wrong sets up a value judgement, in effect assigning equal value to ethical or unethical actions.  A mass murderer is said in this sad ideology to just be "exploring their dark side" in a neutral way.  I find this modern moral relativism to be offbase.

Don, your statement on how the notion of a unity of all things implies that there is no free will is falacious.  It is absolutely clear that if the greater reality is unity, the other perspective on the physical plane is polar opposites.   Both exist simultaneously.  Enlightenment implies the simultaneous appreciation of the unity and the dichotomy; both are real.  

What is my take on all this then?  I believe that there is a unity of all things, however not an equivalence of all actions.  Everything is not equal in terms of thought and action.  What Kyo on this board has called "cosmoethos," is a higher universal principle based in PUL.  As Don astutely stated, if PUL is the underlying force of the universe, then un-PUL vs. PUL sets up a necessary dichotomy for thought and action both here, in the physical and in heaven/hell.  If not, if there were truly no right/wrong, no good/evil, there woud be no PUL, no heaven and hell.  No reason to get up in the morning, to achieve anything.

What we find is that good and evil as preached by the fundies is flawed, but right or wrong action - ethical action based on the concept of PUL is real.  Those that glibly say that all notions of good/evil or right/wrong are illusory, and that all actions are equal, therefore are kidding themselves.  

Matthew