Hi Bets -

I'm glad you posted this.  I'm not sure what's involved but I've had a similar experience lately.  I frequently get the energy rise through the top of my head.  However, about 4 or 5 days ago there was a change.  When I would expect the energy to keep going there's been a different sensation - it just seems to stop at the top of my head and the upper part of my head seemed or felt different.  Yesterday I had to work hard at getting it to go on up out of my head and succeeded but the effect was very faint and most of the energy seemed to settle in at the top of my head.   

The only thing I can think of that caused this change is that I've been thinking and mulling over the idea that there is no space when it comes to consciousness.  In terms of Bruce's energy building exercises, this would imply that there is no need to project the energy out of my head.  Maybe that triggered my experience.

In your case, stopping the twist led to healing energy.  You had a different and positive result.  That's great.  I hope others can offer their opinions.

Hi,
it's interesting that many people seem to have one or more inner "spots" to work on, manipulate, or play with. Most common probably in the upper head area and the middle-body area, as far as I see. Then there are, in my case, spots where I sense something, or come into my awareness to do something with it, and after some days or weeks it changes and it's other spots then.

About this no-space idea, that's tricky. I think it's not the same space as we have in the physical, as I see the physical as a part of something encompassing, but the imagination of space still seems important as long as we're connected to the physical (not to mention time). To imaginate energy flow, expansion, directions, movement and so on are in my experience important tools for manipulating/controlling consciousness states. However, there are differences to the physical space, and for further explorations I would say it's good to keep in mind that space related exercises, like energy boosts in a direction, or expansion, are tools of our imagination which serve their tasks, but not necessarily objective things.
On the other hand, let's say you were in a state with no space and time, you hadn't much to tell then back in the physical, had you?

As what the term "phasing" belongs, I would call Bets' experience phasing. I say, and I think that was Monroe's idea, phasing starts already when thinking of something which you don't see or hear or touch with the physical senses. So, pretty much all the time.

Spooky

 My "third eye" area, or Pineal gland area has been pulsing occasionally lately.  Kind of an odd sensation.  Guess it's waking up after being more or less alseep since earlier childhood?

 I'm nearing my 4th 7 year cycle in the earth plane.. which brings us to the phasing concept.  Not really the earth "plane", but a vibratory pattern and range which occupies the same "space" as every other vibratory pattern and frequency, but relatively at a slower vibration than much of the rest of the Field.  

 There is a "space", but it's a one space which contains all, there is time, but its all time and thus seems like no time.  In each major range of vibratory patterns, sometimes called "dimensions", time is relative to that dimension and of course, each dimension is relative to each and all based on or judged in relation to that standard...which is talked about in the below paragraph, and the only truly real state of being.  In this dimension, called the 3rd, time seems the most linear in nature, but its more a perception than anything which is inherent to this dimensional consciousness and to those who narrow their awareness to this consciousness temporarily.

 (here) When one phases to the fastest frequencies, that of pure Source consciousnes, everything seems absolutely still...strange that all should seem  completely still in the "part" of the field which is the fastest vibrating...

And yet, here in the Earth consciousness, its the slow vibrations which seem active and constantly moving, fast, its all backwards in a sense.    Not that there is a back or forwards but you know what i mean, i think.

 Yah, but physical consciousness, flesh, bodies, and all that, is symbolic encoded info!    Its a projection, a distorted reflection..

 So, up down, here there, higher chakra, lower chakra, etc. may all be ultimatley illusionary when reasoned from an infinite perspective...but yet these are still relatively correct, for they are representative or symbolic of the real truth--just as a word is symbolic or representative of the real truth or concept, a word is an outer description of the inner reality.  

 There is a faster and slower vibration of energy, this is objective truth, and while there is no space as we understand and know it, it might as well be called higher and lower or what not.  

 This is why the very body forces themselves are set up the way they are!  This is why the most expanded (fastest vibratory range) energy Centers are at the top of the head, and the most contracted are at the bottom of the spine.    Because they respresent slower or faster vibratory states and frequencies, yet really within the same "space".    

 Phasing is either speeding up, or slowing down the resonant matching up of frequencies to these consciousness states or dimensions which are both within and without the individual Soul itself.    

 The more one speeds up their inner energies and vibratory patterns, the more they automatically match wavelengths with those states of consciousness which seem more expanded, which really means, more ALL INCLUSIVE.    The more all inclusive one gets by freewill choice, the closer in a sense, one gets to the real, objective energy which is our Source point, the "center" in a sense, the Sun to our planets.  Why speed up one's inner vibratory rates?   Cause, the more one does this, and the closer one gets to that fastest vibratory rate which when actually reached and seems absolutely and eternally still, the more happiness one feels within self, in an automatic sense.   But the only way to ultimately speed up ones inner frequencies towards that of Source vibratory frequency/wavelength, is by helping others as selflessly (meaning not in a limited, purely individual sense) as one can or more apt in a spontaneous heart way.    Not calclulating in an intellectual or mental manner, and thinking of spiritual gain, but out of spontaneous, deep and pervading sense of compassion for the suffering of others.  

 Its pretty sad that Seth, Elias, and all these supposedly more clear and aware consciousnesses don't seem to understand these basic truths.  They only speak on the relative part of reality, which is highly misleading in the long run, though for many it needs to be stressed i suppose.    Yet, the absolute, objective reality is always there right behind the relative reality as well...   It seems those such as Seth, Elias, and many other channeled consciousnesses, just haven't speeded up their inner vibratory frequencies and patterns to perfectly match up or to resonate with Source point or vibratory frequency yet, though they are correct that a part of them is within that consciousness and all other consciousness states already.  But what good is that knowledge when the you that are you, is not yet conscious to those states?   No good, its meaningless in that case, until you as a aspect of your greater consciousness finally use your freewill enough in the direction of choosing that which by like attracts and begets like, leads to that faster vibratory wavelength matching as talked about in the above, to that of Source the all inclusive.    

 No need to look outside the perfect pattern and example to this in living flesh..but in good time one will and all come to the awareness of this perfect pattern for all of humanity.  

betson wrote on Mar 13^th, 2007 at 3:22pm:


  Hi Bets, i guess more specifically is that classic OBE's are really phasing too, it's just because when someone goes OBE in the classic sense, they are still within a slower vibratory range of energies relating to the physical, and so Earth concepts like outer space and time seem more "real" just as to us when in full C1 state. 

   The more we spiritually develop, the more we attune ourselves to Source and balance our energies, the more we will start to automatically phase into the much faster vibratory "levels" (for lack of a better term) which some have called the emotional, mental, and spiritual energies.   And so, oft times our experiences and perceptions "there" will seem less overtly "real" in nature, because its less and less physical and connected to same.   This is where feelings come into play...

Classic OBE is etheric energy range of phasing.  Seems very "real" to us, and really its more illusionary than our more vague and feeling oriented phasings into the faster vibration dimensions of self.

   When one raises their inner frequencies to that of the very fast vibrating levels, such as Bruce did with the Planning Intelligence, pure feelings become the main way of communication, its the only sense which is subtle and receptive enough to pick up on and translate these extremely fast vibrating energies which vibration wise are far removed from anything physical.  This form of communication and reception of same, as always been with us.   It's connected to our Heart and Crown centers.

  So, it seems like you are progressing on your path a lot since you are going from more physically based sensory experiences of the nonphysical, to the more subtle and faster vibrating dimension which are more subtle and vague seeming in nature.  In short, it seems you are starting to phase more directly and automatically into the faster vibrating dimensions of self.   

Keep up the good work. 

P.S., it may illustrate this point somewhat better to share my own experiences with OBE.   I wanted to go OBE for awhile, but never could.   But during an astrological cycle, when my energies were much more dense and slower vibrating, and i was a lot more "horny" and sexual tempoarily as well (much more so than my normal), i had some classic OBE's. 

  This was when both Saturn and Mars were conjunct my Ascendant (the most amplifying area in a chart).   These two planets are the slowest vibrating energies in astrology, hence they tend to be rather negative and difficult to handle.

  I went OBE not because my energies were raised or speeded up, but rather because they became slower vibrating than normally for a time.   

 Hi Bets,

Thank you for the kind words.   I don't fully intellectually comprehend all this stuff either.

 I see a distinction between "feelings" and ones feeling nature, to that of emotions.  I believe we have had our feeling nature since we were formed out of the energy of Source.  

 Our feeling nature allows us to experience other energies and consciousnesses.  It's connected to the Feminine energy of Source and of our Souls.  It corresponds to that moment when Source was all just One undifferientiated Consciousness, completely still and passive, completely One with no movement nor individual aspects within.  At that moment, Source was purely negatively (energy wise, not the moral use of the term) polarized, meaning purely feminine, passive, receptive, and feeling in nature.

 Emotions came much later, and is something that we more so created.  Emotions are very tied into the actual physical Earth energies and to having physical bodies--so you are very correct in that part.   We first "feel" something, and then we choose either consciously or unconsciously to become emotional in connection with that original and pure feeling.

 Feelings are of the Soul nature, emotions can partake of the Soul nature, or they can be purely earthy of the Earth oriented.   When emotions are more balanced to the Soul nature, they are more clear, controllable, and positive in nature.  When they are more balanced to the purely physical which manifested from continual indulgence in the separated sense of self (ego) and the building up of an ever stronger collecitve and individual thought form of same, then they become more negative and destructive in nature.   Emotions become like the dark Moon in that sense, they unbalance our energies, they short circuit the connections between our slow-vibrating systems and our faster vibrating systems so that tempoarily we become unaware or out of phase with our expanded and fast vibrating aspects of self and Creation.  

 In astrology, the Moon is the symbol most connected with emotions, and beyond astrology, the Moon has a long association with emotional and mental instability, otherwise known as "lunacy".  This comes from Lunar, which is the older word for the Moon.  

 These (emotions) are feelings exaggerated and amplified to the nth degree, and often more in connection with our ego or false selves and to physical reactions and energies.  In those cases, they become hard to control and to redirect towards more positive ends.

This is connected to our animal selves as well, since our energies are connected to a pattern of dense energies which evolved from the animal (our body), which is based on kill or be killed, or run away.  Purely instinctive without logical reasoning, totally automatic and overwhelming.  When an animal senses danger, their very whole being centers on the feeling of danger or agression (except for dolphins and a couple other animals). Raw, unconscious, uncontrolled emotional energy.

 This is and was necessary for physical animals, but not for us, yet we have this within us since we partook in becoming involved with physical and animal energies.  This is hard to transcend while in physical, and this is why there are not many more Yeshua types running around in physical who have complete and fully conscious mastery of their physical energies, and all energies connected to same.  

 Astrologically, while emotions are more along the lines of Moon (more feminine polarized emotions) and Mars (more agressive masculine polarized emotions) or in other words flight or fight, the pure feeling nature we have covered up within us, corresponds more to Neptune (the more feminine polarized aspect) and the Sun which you guessed it, is the other polarity.  

 Neptune and Sun are much, much, much faster vibrating energies and consciousnesses than Moon and Mars.  

 And eventually we balance all of our energies, merge all the Chakras and stimulate all the endocrine glands, and we phase into the energy which is represented by pure White Light.  

 This takes continual discipline and control over the human emotional nature from various angles including even diet, exercise, and other more physical disciplines as well as meditiation, energy clearning, etc.  Not that we suppress our emotions, but rather consciously recognize them for what they are and then positively redirect them.   If we supress and repress, and bury it within our subconscious selves, this just creates more problems down the line..  But if we are very self honest, recognize and learn to feel out these emotions, and then consciously redirect them or replace them with positive feelings and thoughts, this the eventual consistent practice leads to spiritual enlightenment.   This is why they call spiritual Masters, masters.   They are not masters of any other people or things, but complete masters of self, and self's projections whether of thought, emotion, or action.  

 They come to a point where they have so continually practiced positivity within self, that its a habit and automatic reaction for them to think, feel, and emote positive energies, and to do positive actions.   Pure positivity, pure Light, pure Love and pefect balance between masculine and feminine energies (active and receptive energies).  

 It's really hard to explain the difference between the emotional nature and that of the feeling nature.  So many so automatically associate them as the same thing, and our language and culture is somewhat based around that.  Its hard to put into words, but in a sense the feeling nature is actually more "mental" in attunement than emotions which is a mix of mental, emotional, etheric and physical energies.   Emotions are "heavier" if that makes any sense...   Attachment and habits are a big part of emotions, wheras feelings can be let go of or redirected easily and near instantly.   Emotions are a distorted and exagerrated reflection of feelings and the feeling perceptions, but emotions can become either harmonious or inharmonious.

 Well..i tried, but probably failed miserably to get across the both the differences and where they are connected as well.

good thread, will have to read it slowly and absorb it all.
Bets, I stopped going obe or trying to a long time ago but I remember exiting some energy from the 3rd eye area back in the 80's, so I can relate to u said you came out there.
there may not be a space and stars out there. it may just be a picture in our minds, I mean its there solidly if we can figure out technology to travel there in our body, but the star you look at is there from a past standpoint, so time and space are related. what you are looking at may have disappeared.

we're gonna need to travel really fast then out in space, haha!

inner space though is different but also related to mind travel.

I'll have to go read your healing thread Bets, sounds good! love, alysia