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I agree!

I disagree.  What a crappy thread.

Blink,

It is your choice, but creating a thread, personally about someone like this won't accomplish your goals.  Your opinion will be seen, but it really doesn't create a change - and now it becomes......personal.  If it were me, I'd use the peer moderator system, and mention in the thread that I planned to do so - rather than creating this thread.  I do respect your freedom to choose and your openness.

Love,

Matthew

OOB,

Expressing PUL does not mean that you can not disagree with someone or even get riled up or feel that they are negative in some way.  This is part of our humanity.

I have also seen what Blink sees.  I have seen Tempest generalizing with negative statements about how hypocritical this forum is, or how unfriendy or unloving the posters are (this occured almost immediatey on the DK thread).  Despite all this, you and I agree that creating a thread personally directed at a poster, no matter how honest and open, is inappropriate.

Matthew

This board needs active moderation, not simply the peer system currently in place.

Respected members should be appointed as moderators of each of the boards, preferably two or more. These persons should have a certain level of awareness and the temperament to handle the rough and tumble of this board. An example of the level of awareness would be graduate of TMI's Lifeline program and others who have the equivalent awareness. We need people in touch with Guidance who can in turn guide the newer members, however subtly, towards greater awareness while also spotting energy vampires and teaching them with PUL, or suspending or removing them as appropriate, again with PUL. Some of this guidance is already provided by individuals but on a selective basis. There are members of Linn's board here who could fulfill this function, and others as well.

The current system forces someone to either go behind someone's back or risk a flame war in the open. A moderator would have the authority already in place to handle issues in an open and transparent manner while also having the power to remove persistent offenders. Bruce would then only have to moderate the moderators.

I think most of us who have been around these boards for a while know that the average level of awareness of the members of Linn's board is higher than on this one. This is not a bad thing, but points to the need for more hands-on management here. Unfortunately, Bruce is not available to actively moderate these threads on a consistent basis because the focus of his spiritual efforts lie elsewhere. I think authority should be delegated to appropriate moderators to keep this board running smoothly and to allow Guidance more opportunities to assist.

Love,
Rob

Cricket,

What you propose is the easy way. It means doing nothing until the other person fits the requirements of OUR ego-based perception.

You can't get through to anyone by ignoring them. Trying to assist someone with kindness and patience while tolerating their abusive behavior is much more difficult, but the only way to reach someone who doesn't listen very well.

If guides and helpers used this black & white thinking you suggest, no human on this planet would ever get any assistance unless they behaved perfectly. On second thought, perfect people wouldn't get assisted, either, because they wouldn't need it. So guides and helpers using your approach wouldn't have anything to do. Easy for them, disastrous for us.

Rob

I am with you on this one Cricket. I have opted, through guide and spirit advice, to simply skip the posts from posters who are recognized as offensive. We all have our own lines drawn as to what offensive is, so go by that. I am incouraging new posters to do the same. In my opinion these types of posts only serve their master. They feed on fear, if you simply don't give them that power...they dissipate. 

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"You can't get through to anyone by ignoring them. Trying to assist someone with kindness and patience while tolerating their abusive behavior is much more difficult, but the only way to reach someone who doesn't listen very well."

I agree with you on this one Rob, but sometimes helping someone who doesn't want it is like banging your head up against a wall. What do you get...a bloody head...a headache? I too see crys for help but I am not that kind of warrior. If you are Rob then go for it... I applaud you.

Best of luck, Stacy

Blink, I don't consider your criticisms of Tempest to be valid,
on reading a few of Tempest's posts, I don't see them as negative,
nothing there to be cause for banning. There was even something in
them that could be rated as positive. The search would not produce
posts by her that were earlier, so I dont have the whole picture.

What I see is your extremely subjective and individual personal
reaction to things that she says that bug you. I don't know what
that is, maybe you don't like, for instance, to be reminded that
"millions of people think the beliefs in this forum are wacko", or
some such thing she said, I don't know which.

I deal with this kind of thing every day, in my research in the
Middle east, where I am studying the causes of the civil war in
Baghdad. Persians are the most hot headed people in the world, who
can quickly get mad over little. It is a racial characteristic.
I once remarked to a group, "shut up is normal Afghan dialogue"
which produced laughter among the Afghans, because they admit that
it is true.

Normally I would not bother to read a thread like this. But it got
my attention because it looked like an American example of the same
kind of thing that I had been seeing in the Middle East. I don't
mind this thread at all, because it is something that you look at
in the course of developing social intelligence, and understanding
human interaction and its causes.

Hello Jean! Nice to see a post from you again!

I have not a real opinion on whether "yes" or "no" or so regarding this thread... I'll see where it's flowing to.

Spooky

Whether anyone listens to advice, or not, is between them (their free will), their guides, and their higher self. This is true for all of us.

We are all students, teachers and guides. Discerning which we are with whom and when is can be difficult.

Sometimes lessons put before us through others seem harsh, difficult, challenging. This goes both ways. At the same time there are very few accidents. Putting aside fear and ego and responding with Love is also sometimes difficult. Perhaps exceedingly difficult at times, especially when there's a lesson involved.

If anyone decides to leave the board rather than to continue to engage us, that is their choice. Sometimes it's better to withdraw from perceived negativity rather than continue to participate in it, regardless of how right we view ourselves. This gives us the opportunity to focus on ourselves instead of someone else. When I say focus on ourselves, I mean through self-examination and intuitive discernment. I'd also say regaining detachment is important here as well. When we focus on others we become distracted from focusing on ourselves and this inhibits our spiritual progression. Sometimes the wisest choice is to take a break, and let others "win" if that is what they insist on perceiving. I'll add that Blink has the sensitivity to do this while several others on this board do not. While she may have her stated reasons for leaving, I know that she will examine herself, regain detachment, and return when she is ready. I know this because I feel it when I feel her.

We know, or should, that it doesn't matter what others say or how they behave. What matters is how we as individuals chose to respond. We are only responsible for what we ourselves do.

I agree with Blink when she says there is a lot of negativity on this board. I'll point out, though, that the energy of this board fluctuates. It's a rough board for sensitive people. It is a good lesson in detachment. It's also an opportunity for those who are less sensitive to learn to be more sensitive if they choose, which I think they should, because the sensitivity I'm referring to is the intuitive kind, and the underlying purpose of this board is to help raise the spiritual awareness of its participants, which increases this sensitivity. It also allows those who are further along to assist. This has its own lessons for them, one of which is detachment.

I hope this helps.

Love,
Rob

Hi Petrus,

So good to 'see' you again.  I LOVE what you wrote and it makes so much sense. There's nothing I can add to what you said. It's perfect.

With Love, Mairlyn

Wow, I'm sorry tempest. I thought you were calling us wackos.

I dont know who 'tempest' was so i wont offer my opinion in relation to that.

But i found petrus response rather chilling. Especially this,

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I would just like to remind you, when people mostly think of the topic of the afterlife. It's not when they are supremely positive, or feeling great. Generally it's when they loose someone, or at a time in there lives when everything is far from rosy.

So please think, before you generalize people as 'negative entities' everyone will suffer at sometime in there life, it doesn't make them bad, but merely human.