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Re: Tempest should be removed from this forum
Reply #15 - Mar 4th, 2007 at 8:45pm
 
Blink, I don't consider your criticisms of Tempest to be valid,
on reading a few of Tempest's posts, I don't see them as negative,
nothing there to be cause for banning. There was even something in
them that could be rated as positive. The search would not produce
posts by her that were earlier, so I dont have the whole picture.

What I see is your extremely subjective and individual personal
reaction to things that she says that bug you. I don't know what
that is, maybe you don't like, for instance, to be reminded that
"millions of people think the beliefs in this forum are wacko", or
some such thing she said, I don't know which.

I deal with this kind of thing every day, in my research in the
Middle east, where I am studying the causes of the civil war in
Baghdad. Persians are the most hot headed people in the world, who
can quickly get mad over little. It is a racial characteristic.
I once remarked to a group, "shut up is normal Afghan dialogue"
which produced laughter among the Afghans, because they admit that
it is true.

Normally I would not bother to read a thread like this. But it got
my attention because it looked like an American example of the same
kind of thing that I had been seeing in the Middle East. I don't
mind this thread at all, because it is something that you look at
in the course of developing social intelligence, and understanding
human interaction and its causes.
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Reply #16 - Mar 4th, 2007 at 9:17pm
 
Hi Boris,

So glad to see you posting. It calmed me at the end of a rough week  Tongue

I appreciated an international/global-local perspective and if Spooky peaks in on this thread again, I want to thank him for calming me with his responce to Stacy during her unexpected detour"So am I correct..."

Love you Guys, Jean Kiss
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Reply #17 - Mar 4th, 2007 at 11:47pm
 
Hello Jean! Nice to see a post from you again!

I have not a real opinion on whether "yes" or "no" or so regarding this thread... I'll see where it's flowing to.

Spooky
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Reply #18 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 12:57am
 
What you propose is the easy way. It means doing nothing until the other person fits the requirements of OUR ego-based perception.

You didn't read what I wrote.  I don't know (or care) whether anyone is trying to get through to Tempest.  I'm addressing those (Blink, I think it was) who proposed banning rather than herself ignoring the problem.  Which means no one else can try to get through to Tempest even if inclined to do so.  My solution had nothing to do with Tempest, and everything to do with those who have a big problem with her.

Personally, I have a hard time taking anyone who claims greater enlightenment than everyone else every third sentence.  However, if my issue were annoyance with her, I'd just ignore her, and leave her available for everyone else to chose to ignore or try to "help".  I suspect she is rather young, and therefore it's probably a good thing if someone does try to "help" her.  However, I didn't take her to raise, she didn't ask for my help, and heck, for all we know she could be right.  If so she's undoubtedly not the only one with the "truth", so I opt to learn it from someone with better manners.  I don't however think anyone else should be prevented from interacting with her, or endeavoring to "assist" her if it suits them.

I suspect it won't suit her, but that is her business.  When the student is ready the teacher appears, and until then the teacher is liable to be persona non grata.  At some point personal responsibility comes into play, and while she annoys the heck out of me if I take it all too seriously, I don't think she's stupid.  She'll either learn not to offend people you want to get through to, or she knows she's doing it and doesn't care.  Either way, her call.
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Reply #19 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 2:11am
 
Whether anyone listens to advice, or not, is between them (their free will), their guides, and their higher self. This is true for all of us.

We are all students, teachers and guides. Discerning which we are with whom and when is can be difficult.

Sometimes lessons put before us through others seem harsh, difficult, challenging. This goes both ways. At the same time there are very few accidents. Putting aside fear and ego and responding with Love is also sometimes difficult. Perhaps exceedingly difficult at times, especially when there's a lesson involved.

If anyone decides to leave the board rather than to continue to engage us, that is their choice. Sometimes it's better to withdraw from perceived negativity rather than continue to participate in it, regardless of how right we view ourselves. This gives us the opportunity to focus on ourselves instead of someone else. When I say focus on ourselves, I mean through self-examination and intuitive discernment. I'd also say regaining detachment is important here as well. When we focus on others we become distracted from focusing on ourselves and this inhibits our spiritual progression. Sometimes the wisest choice is to take a break, and let others "win" if that is what they insist on perceiving. I'll add that Blink has the sensitivity to do this while several others on this board do not. While she may have her stated reasons for leaving, I know that she will examine herself, regain detachment, and return when she is ready. I know this because I feel it when I feel her.

We know, or should, that it doesn't matter what others say or how they behave. What matters is how we as individuals chose to respond. We are only responsible for what we ourselves do.

I agree with Blink when she says there is a lot of negativity on this board. I'll point out, though, that the energy of this board fluctuates. It's a rough board for sensitive people. It is a good lesson in detachment. It's also an opportunity for those who are less sensitive to learn to be more sensitive if they choose, which I think they should, because the sensitivity I'm referring to is the intuitive kind, and the underlying purpose of this board is to help raise the spiritual awareness of its participants, which increases this sensitivity. It also allows those who are further along to assist. This has its own lessons for them, one of which is detachment.

I hope this helps.

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Rob

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Reply #20 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 3:45am
 
I can't leave it entirely as it was Bruce's books that got me started November 1999.

Hi Marilyn,
I feel the same way...and to be honest to me it makes sense that this board would be a target for negative entities, since it can be so instrumental in creating a truly positive influence in people when things are going well.

I agree myself with the idea that there should be an ignore function in place at the individual level.  That way a person causing problems doesn't get censored at a greater level than that of the people who are offended by him/her.  It also means that if said person offends enough people, eventually he/she will be ignored by a sufficiently large number of people that he/she will in all likelyhood give up trying to post here.  It is a very elegant solution...one in which the problem essentially solves itself.  It's also the solution employed by the Afterlife itself, which is worth remembering...a person can't stay in a reality that they are not attracted to. Grin
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Reply #21 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 4:00am
 
Hi Petrus,

So good to 'see' you again.  I LOVE what you wrote and it makes so much sense. There's nothing I can add to what you said. It's perfect.

With Love, Mairlyn
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Reply #22 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 11:26am
 
I agree myself with the idea that there should be an ignore function in place at the individual level.  That way a person causing problems doesn't get censored at a greater level than that of the people who are offended by him/her.

There is an ignore function...the name of each poster is listed at the left.  When you don't want to read one, you scroll past it.

I refuse to have such contempt for members here as to think they can't deal with that.  It is good to be sensitive to things that can be fixed, other people's feelings, that sort of thing.  Being sensitve to what someone says that no one has to read borders on needing to grow up.  Controlling other people is not, IMHO (or at least my opinion...;>) an enlightened and adult activity.

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Reply #23 - Mar 5th, 2007 at 3:49pm
 
Wow, I'm sorry tempest. I thought you were calling us wackos.
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Reply #24 - Apr 3rd, 2007 at 6:13am
 
I am a newbie on this forum . I found it while googling . But I know Tempest from another forum where she is highly respected ,knowledgable and kind . I hold her in the highest regard and consider her a metaphysical peer and online friend . It is my hope that staff might delete this thread altogether and see her for the wise woman she is . I realise I do not know what happened here in the past but it seems bad form to allow a post complaining about a menber to stay in the public eye , Most forums would take this to a moderator  or staff forum instead,

Thanks for considering my opinion .
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Reply #25 - Apr 3rd, 2007 at 7:35am
 
I dont know who 'tempest' was so i wont offer my opinion in relation to that.

But i found petrus response rather chilling. Especially this,

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I feel the same way...and to be honest to me it makes sense that this board would be a target for negative entities


I would just like to remind you, when people mostly think of the topic of the afterlife. It's not when they are supremely positive, or feeling great. Generally it's when they loose someone, or at a time in there lives when everything is far from rosy.

So please think, before you generalize people as 'negative entities' everyone will suffer at sometime in there life, it doesn't make them bad, but merely human.


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Reply #26 - Apr 3rd, 2007 at 10:04am
 
I agree with you, Aunt Claire, that this thread could be removed. Tempest seemed to leave this site very quickly afterwards, although I don't know exactly under what circumstances, and I returned when I saw she was no longer posting here.

I admit that I may have overreacted at the time....I was willing to consider that possibility, and so I removed myself for a little while.  Perhaps if the same posting situation were occuring at this time I would respond differently....I don't really know.

I agree that it is not necessary to keep such a thread alive here, although it is not much different from some of the activities that occur inside of other threads which are not titled so pointedly.

I did receive a dream not long after this particular situation seemed to "disappear" in which I was caused to feel that I was made an example of in front of everyone on the forum. VOLUMINOUS writings about my own shortcomings were in evidence on the forum in my dream.

And so I knew immediately that this was guidance telling me that it was important for me to experience this feeling so that I might develop more compassion.

Again, I apologize if I have offended anyone and I appreciate the feedback and comments from everyone concerned.

love, blink Smiley
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