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Skip-a-life reincarnation plans
Mar 3rd, 2007 at 1:13pm
 
Greetings,

Have you found evidence of living your present life based on a life of relationships to come?
I feel (and have been getting information through 'dreams', revelations --thoughts about dreams) like I made some promises to a soul in the past, knowing then that I would not be with him in this life but will in the next.
Do you think this is the way we work out our incarnations ?

I have some problems with that method.  Apparently I made some very heart-felt promises
(like 'I won't love anyone but you until we meet again'---apparently I am a very young soul after all.)
I feel very fortunate to have someone waiting for me who could inspire such a promise, but I took it too seriously. "Live' and "Love" are too inter-related to try one without the other!  I was stupid to choose non-loving situations for this life and to self-destruct any time a more loving option came along !

Here's one of those sentences you can write in a circle and they never end:
'Waiting without loving is not love.' or 'Love waiting without loving is not love waiting...  etc, the wheel goes around.

Do you think about the things/people you want to be with in the future? Do you think that the future-you will want them as much as the present-you does?

I really look forward to some views on this.
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Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2007 at 3:23pm
 
Hello Bets,

This isn't exactly the same but I was given evidence about 11 yrs ago regarding the relationship that I am in now in this physical life. At that time I had just 'unboxed' my lost childhood tramas with the help of my guides. They took me so far back that I relived a past life and recovered the last moments above before I took this life. I didn't understand what it ment then as a mater of fact I thought I was loosing my mind.

About 6 months passed and I was trying to cope but had another 'crash'. I really hit hard this time and was considering suicide. I was screaming at then to take me home now. My 'spirit friend' came to me with my guides and told me "hang on, someone is coming". Then the past life that I relived came back into my mind. I knew there was a connection but still didn't understand. I was still in panic and despair. My guides and spirit friend started talking franticly between each other, then my spirit friend said I could come home now if I really wanted to. Given that opportunity I had to think. Well I had a grade school daughter with no one else, so I opted to stay. I could feel their relief and knew I made the correct decission. I was not happy about it but decided to stick with it, it was the right thing to do becides if I still had things to do I did not want to start all over in a new life to do it. Panic and despair did not leave me but neither did they. I asked who was coming and lived the past life again. In this past life someone who loved me very much betrayed me thinking I would run to him for protection but instead my duty to those I loved caused my death. Yes I can remember my death too. Well this person was devastated and has never fully recovered. (this life happened at least a thousand years ago)

I got my answer a couple of days later when a friend of mine came to the door. He told me that he heard that I was available (I just broke off a bad relationship), and he filed for divorce from his wife. I was stunned and this did not seem like a good loving thing for me to encourage, I was confussed. He left so I could think about it. We had been good friends for over 10 years at this point. His wife hated me from the moment she say me, though I gave her no reason to. I tried hard to be her friend but she would have none of it. I asked guides 'is this right?' I saw parts of my past life again but it mostly focused on this fellows feet, confussing. A few days later my friend came back to see what I thought and guess what he was barefoot and it was exactly the same feet! So in my mind I said 'ok guys, if this is what is needed then ok'.

It took me a long time to tell him about the past life experience. All he said at first was "was I good to you?" I gave a very brief rundown and he said he that he understood that he was here with me for a reason. He said that the moment he first saw me he felt like he had to protect me from harm and allow me happiness. He also told me that he has several life rememberances where we met but he passed me by due to fear and he wished he hadn't. I do love him so on many levels but it is not the same 'soul love' that I feel for my 'spirit friend' and it turns out my guy knows this. He says that this is his lifes purpose..to see this through..to be my warrior and protector. He wouldn't think twice about running into a burning building after me. It all sound a little sad but we are really quite happy together, and he says that this was all he wanted was to have some time with me. How strange life is.

He feels that when this life is over he will be ready to proceed with whatever. I forgot to mention earlier that my guides gave me a glimps of how his actions in our past life together affected his other lives..he was so sad. I felt like it was my 'job' to save him from himself, and that makes so much sense to me new. So we see this as an opportunity to help each other grow. I think I need this cleared up as much as he does. How could I move forward while I know someone I loved was stuck in such sadness..I could not leave him like that.

This brings up some very interesting feelilngs from my 'spirit friend', this is hard on him. I can't explain it in words but the feelings I receive from him tell me that. He knows it is for the greater good and encouraged it but non the less, it is hard for him. We are just recently touching on those emotions and what a loving, growing experience it is.

BTW: I am posting with all parties in agreement. I will not use names and try to keep the really personal stuff just for us. So I am not violating anyone here, I am supposed to tell my story.

I too have someone waiting for me, and there is a promise in my heart to love no one as I do him, but I can't help it...it just is. He has given me permission to love in this life and encouraged it even though it hurts...that is love my friend. I have no doubt that I will always love him beyond reproach and even more so in the afterlife. As I have mentioned before I have put my 'spirit friend' through horrific tests in his short life here and his love never wavered. Anger, pain..oh yes, but the love remained and is still growning. Perhaps that was part of this lifes plan..to test his love one final time before spending eternity with him. He proved worthy, and I know that sounds selfish but maybe necessary. Anyway I am learning not to beat myself up over it anymore..well not so much...still feel ashamed sometimes but then his comes in and surrounds me and I am fine again.

Gee..was this to much information? lol

So although this is not the same Bets, I think it is still on topic.

Love you Bets, Stacy




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Reply #2 - Mar 3rd, 2007 at 4:23pm
 
HI Bets and Stacey-
Ladies, watch out what you wish for, 'cause you're going to get it.

Of course you can always go back and renegociate your options, but unless you do that you remain obligated just asa you set it up. In regression sessions, I've seen numerous cases of "I'll wait for you ..." and then two poorly suited people discover that there was a good reason for one of them to catch the plague or whatever. A couple examples: young woman in Italy in 1600's, marries local lothario who catches smallpoix, so they make a lovers' pact. Now in this life he is an abuser, playing with all the bimbos in the neighborhood, threatening to kill her etc.  Another case was a man who was drafted, promised his wife he'd return, but was killed in Korea. She waited and pined away in desolation at home while he was reborn briefly, then she died, and then the two came back together in the present where she tried to make his life a living hell for abandoning her. Or the old man who died and patiently haunted the house until his spouse of many years died too, so they could go off into the Light together. Then as he put it, "She went to her group and I went to mine."

You might not want to do this to yourself, in wihich case you 'll need to escape from the plans you previousl;y made. The escape hatch has to incorporate the literal terms of your initial vows to one another, and also has to be a generally "useful" choice - you can't simply hire Jack the Ripper to fix things up. However ideaas that lead to enlightenment or spiritual growth would be OK.

One way to escape is to recognize that both you and your lover are one in God. Then, by committment to a life in which you find God, you might meet and "be one together" in a more transcendent sense. Of course you might spend the next life in a nunnery.

A simpler option is to call up the person to whom you pledged your eternal admiration, and dialogue about the situation. This is easier for meditators, but any kind of regression is usually sufficient.  Because you two are already joined at the higher consciousness end of your spectra, communication shouldn't be too hard, nor will it be puntive. After all, if it were you, wouldn't you be willing to release someone who had pledged you his eternal affection - and then later discovered that this was more theatrical than practical? (Sounds like Stacey's case.) Love leads us to release others, and by this we demonstrate even more love, and through that we just might make it possible for things to work out later on.

Good luck!
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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2007 at 5:54pm
 
Many thanks Stacy and DrDave,

Your responses are overwhelming so I'll just take on a bit from each for now---

Dave, your comment on a nunnery was right on, lol! My parents tried to convince me and we're not even of that faith ! but Guidance said they were cold places, not full of the vitality and spirit lthey had several hundred years ago.   You know I treasure your outlook, but right now it's confused by a recent dream/vision in which this man and i were taken up to a god-like figure who gave us a larger purpose for our coming life together. Then on another thread augo said be sure we're masters of our own dreams....? So I think it may be too late to change and do I really want to, as his obit. says he was a kind and generous soul. 

Dear Stacy, your love life is just phenomenol !  You are certainly a very loving soul !  I thought of what I knew from your postings and did not want it to seem the same, as you've kept a running relationship with your friend and my relationship was just revealed to me.  Thank you for sharing your situation further.  Oh, I was going to say, feet must be more expressive than our well-shod culture allows! I once glanced aat the sandaled feet of a co-worker and a voice said 'he was your brother.' At that time the past tense didn't make sense.

So, you've given me much to think about.
PUL
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Reply #4 - Mar 3rd, 2007 at 6:19pm
 
Thanks Dave,

I really do appreciate your heartfelt warning. You brought up important issues that should indeed be addressed. I/we have put a lot of thought into that. Especially the releasing of any unfulfilled obligations that might be felt. This could lead to very undesireable consiquences, such as resentment. We did let each other go knowing that we would meet again. Not easy, not easy at all but in the best interest for both of us at the time.

He has been gone from the physical life almost two decades now. Throughout the years we have gotten together periodically for short periods of time (hours/days). Not as 'man and woman' but as 'soul and soul', that is the best way to describe it though it seems not nearly enough. We did the same thing in our physical life together. Our actual 'physical' time together was relatively short but the draw was strong. We have used this time wisely as far as working on our issues, and yes we had many.

Once my kundalini became active communication became much easier. Since then the healing process and understanding have moved along rather quickly. Now we are working on our friendship. I am so glad that we did give yourselves the time that we needed, actually it was necessary. I was to young and full of life to just sit and pine...I still am. He didn't want that for me then and he doesn't now. He keeps busy with his own projects. I feel very comfortable with the steps we have taken. We've set nothing in stone, each completely free. We've not decided your our next step. We have adobted a 'wait and see' attitude for when it is my time to cross over. I don't see us doing anything but drawing closer, especially if you consider all the love and care we have put  into our friendship foundation.

I think we've taken the steps we did because it is so important to both of us. I feel very clear in my thought but if there is anything that I have overlooked please point it out to me so I can address it. - Stacy
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