th3digitalmind,

Welcome to the board. You may have come here for a reason. I can remember a time when I felt rather like you do now. People could talk to me all day long but I knew if I really wanted to find the truth I had to find it for myself. Now I am not saying that I am finding my answers all by myself..no, no, no. There is a lot of great help and reference here.

What I did when I first came here was start reading the articles and the posts. Form some specific questions, write them down as you run across them. Then post them here and people will jump in when they can share something they think might help. Be patient it may take a day or two but you will be answered by someone.

Start your learning process, read, form questions and enjoy the journey, you will be so glad you did. The best gift you could give to yourself.

Happy Trails, Stacy

i just wish there was some way of proving it....... cause it is sooo scary to be alive.....cause i know it ends

th3digitalmind wrote on Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:15pm:

Visit www.near-death.com! They have plenty of near death experiences for you to read up  on to show you there is an afterlife.. Just read through the site and you will find lots of good information on the afterlife... Also, another good site about the afterlife is www.victorzammit.com! This is the main caption about the site.. NOT BELIEFS BUT PHYSICAL EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. Those uninformed critics keep misinforming the public by stating that I am a ‘believer.’ That is willfully misleading. I do NOT have the luxury of beliefs. Is this the ONLY way these losers and defeatists critics try to score a cheap point by lying, misleading and misinforming? For the record: I am strictly a lawyer using ‘empirical methodology’ – meaning that I use scientific method to measure paranormal phenomena. I have nothing to do with ‘beliefs.’ I do NOT have the luxury of beliefs. All my work is about empirically elicited paranormal information. I can only accept a particular phenomenon when it can be repeatedly and independently substantiated over time and space.

All of his evidence is from out of body experiences, near death experiences, there is direct experience through apparitions, clairvoyance, clairaudience and deathbed visions. Fourth, there are revelations through other than conscious states of awareness, such as hypnosis, dreams and holotropic states. (The word holotropic is from the Greek holos, meaning “whole,” and trepein, meaning “moving or oriented towards.” It relates to a powerful method of self-exploration, personal transformation, and healing created by Christina and Stanislav Grof, M.D.) Fifth, there are revelations through mediums (mental mediums, trance mediums and materialization mediums) from loved ones who have died. Sixth, there are revelations through electronic voice phenomena (EVP) and instrumental trans-communication (ITC).

Seventh, there are transmissions from spirit teachers of high degree speaking through mediums, channellers and automatic writers.

I hope these site will help you out!

Hi Digital-
A few days back I wanted an answer too, a better one than I had, so I asked for one and wound up being told to go back and restudy  some material in a book on optics - which led to wave mechanics etc ...  And, finally, at the end of all of this I got an interesting thought.

We usually view the world as made up of discrete grains of quantum-like stuff. Like a statue of microscopic sand.  But a number of experiments have demonstrated that virtually everything can also be viewed as the collection of waves that coincide to define them. This too has been demonstrated with electrons, atoms and lots of other stuff that iitially we took to be granular.

Waves vary in;ength fro the Planck length at about 1.5 E(-35) meters to the size of the entire universe, roughly 28,000,000,000 light years. And, because this is a closed system, every wave is a part of every other wave, and thus has an identity that extends effectively infinitely through both time and space.

Each of us is made up of the same set of waves. These waves bring oscillations, like life, followed by non-life, followed by life etc. The fact that the wavelike nature of our attachment to the 3-dimensional world happens to be cyclic as well, suggests that that part of our nature will come and go, as well as every other part of whatever identifies us. Someof these things come and go visibly  and some are not so visible. But in every case, because we are, in at least one way, reducible to a collection of waves, we have at least that one way to claim the certainty of eternal existence.

All of that having been said, I go back to the advice from Daisymae and DaBears - go there and have a look. It's far more useful to see it for yourself than to ask for "proofs" which are not very personal at best.  Bruce's methods are good, and if you get into rescuing stuck souls, you'll also have fuin while acquiringgod karma. And there are lots of other approaches if that isn't enough.

Happy exploring!
dave

th3digitalmind,

The true man is the soul, we only have this body of flesh, so we can experience this Earth plane to it's fullest, in the material state. Leaving the body, by way of an obe renforces this. When the soul finds that the flesh body has worn out, and can not be a reliable vehecle, the soul encased in the spirit body, leaves for our true home, the afterlife in the astral worlds. Once you can master the obe experience, you wil never have questions about, or fear the death of the physically body ever again.

Dimensionally Yours,

Rick
ricktimet

Don't be scared of death, because I can assure you there's no such thing. I've astral projected a lot in the mornings, always by accident.

Besides the physical body, we have another body called the astral, etheric, or spirit body.

Your spirit survives physical death, subconsciousness I'm not so sure, but your spirit is eternal.

Don't be scared of death, because I can assure you there's no such thing. I've astral projected a lot in the mornings, always by accident.

Besides the physical body, we have another body called the astral, etheric, or spirit body.

Your spirit survives physical death, subconsciousness I'm not so sure, but your spirit is eternal.
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Hi Elite NYC,
I hope that the subconscious mind WOULD die. Would you really
want to have to lug THAT monstrosity along with you in your
post-mortem existence (or even worse, it IS the real you, and your
spirit is just something "tacked" to your subconcious, that drops away
after you die... and you find that all the weaknesses, personality quirks,
and bad habits you fought with your entire life, were ***ALL YOU HAD TO
LOOK FORWARD TO FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY? Because they WERE YOU..?***)
Oblivion's soundin' better every day, lemme tell ya..!

B-man