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Re: The Tunnel/Vortex Experience
Reply #15 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 12:35am
 
Thanks for the great link Augoeideian. There were many interesting and pertinent things to consider there. I have also wondered at times about the parallels between the macrocosm and the microcosm. There are many parallels and symbological links to all forms of life at all levels and sizes... "So as above, so below ("So as everywhere... so as everywhere"). I remember a post awhile back where we were all discussing various parallels between the mechanics of this physical world of ours and that of the spiritual planes. Parallels such as the umbilical cord at birth representing/symbolizing the silver/ethereal cord attatchment to our physical vessels while physically incarnate, or the cycles a caterpillar goes through prior to becoming a  butterfly and how that relates to the cycles we go through as spiritual beings inhabiting a human body: Larva -- Human; Cocoon -- Physical Death; Butterfly in Flight -- Release of the Soul; or how about our exit from the birth canal as a baby (heading from darkness to light) and our exit through the tunnel/vortex as our physical life comes to an end (headed towards light)... (This parallel may not be as pertinent to those who were born via cesarian, but still noteworthy nonetheless!).

These symobological parallels may very well reach into the outer echelons of the physical universe and within the holographic multidimensional reality that we so lovingly find ourselves in.

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Bets wrote:

"Say, weren't you the one who asked the question in the first place ?!"

LOL! Reading others peoples' replies with all of the shared ideas and experiences helps to create even more ideas, concepts, and possible experiences... (the cycle repeats.) It's this sharing and growing through interaction with others; self-searching; asking questions; living answers; making the unknowns known and expanding the reaches of the unknown, that gives the journey of conscious exploration its very definition. In relating symbols it seems that we are all artists at work here, with light as our paintbrush; sometimes it's in order to borrow paint from other peoples' palettes!
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KarmicKiss wrote:

"I like the idea of raw energies, and how often we refer to beings of "light"..and "energetic bodies"..so some kind of shifting from this sort of "heavy matter" into something else would certainly be a big part in explaining that humming/vibrational shifts we've been talking about."

I completely agree with you KarmicKiss. Thanks for sharing your experiences with this. Much appreciated.

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Chuckles wrote:

"sometimes I think because of delta brain waves firing I hear because we don't really "go" anywhere location outside the mind, but maybe slip into a sideral dimension. don't have words!   a sense of movement for sure to reach a destination, sometimes a brief blinking out just the second before arrival of symbology or visitors."

Dave wrote:

"My theory was that as we lose attachment to the three dimensional embodiment of this world, we tend to take on another dimension, like something dropping through a "black hole" into hyperspace, and as we move into this the rest of the world seems to be progressively more distant, as if we are rising, or it is falling away along the increasing span of the newly added dimension. I wonder if this correlates as well for your experiences as mine."

I totally agree with you Chuckles and Dave, it may very well be part and parcel to a shift of dimensional perception; shifts in vibration from heavier to finer and the aftereffects therein; results of the transformation into our natural states of/as raw conscious energy/beings of light and taking on those foreign yet familiar perceptual changes.
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Recoverer wrote:

"A number of years ago I woke up one night, saw a slowly rotating tunnel that appeared in a pattern that included the color gold and sort of reminded me what you would see on a Tibetan Buddhist poster (Is tanka the correct word?). I heard a cosmic ohm as I saw this. The ohm didn't start when I started to see the tunnel. It seemed like the ohm always existed. It had a sound that was beyond what a human voice could create."

Interesting that you mentioned that "ohm" sound. Did it remind you at all of Gregorian chants or the meditation "ohm". I remember my father telling me that during one of his NDE he heard that "ohm" sound while traveling through the tunnel towards the Light and that it felt to him as being a sort of guide post leading him through the tunnel towards Light. He also said that it was beyond what a human voice could create, but not in those exact words. He said that the music that he heard while "out there" was unlike anything he had ever heard while on Earth... He said that it was incomprehensible in beauty and that it came from nowhere and yet everywhere simultaneously; he said that it just was, as was he.
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Thanks to all for sharing, and I look forward to hearing more!

PUL,
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Re: The Tunnel/Vortex Experience
Reply #16 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 3:35pm
 
its good that Cosmic takes all the comments and condenses them for us; it brings us together.

I have just read Otherwhere, by Leland and I felt it was pertinent to put here on this thread, in regards to this from Cosmic:

making the unknowns known and expanding the reaches of the unknown, that gives the journey of conscious exploration its very definition. In relating symbols it seems that we are all artists at work here, with light as our paintbrush; sometimes it's in order to borrow paint from other peoples' palettes!

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from the last page of this Book mentioned above: "As you map nonphysical reality, you provide a multitude of images that people may use, like telescopes, to help them translate what goes on over there for themselves, if they should ever make the journey. It doesn't matter whether you use gates, doors, hallways, alleys, or subway systems to describe how to enter Otherwhere.  The differences between these images is like the differeneces between types of telescopes; the refractor, the reflector, the Newtonian, the Cassegrainian. And just as amateur astronomers have different tastes in telescopes, so may those readers who succeed in entering Otherwhere find certain images you've provided more useful than others in translating their own experiences.
You may do your best to provide the map, but it's up to others to use or ignore any or all of it, as they see fit-or perhaps to improve it.
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end of quote. it appears Leland is an astronomer. I'm not, but I can relate to his use of the analogy because on at least two occassions when obe, I became a camera lens zooming into my subject. incredible feeling of zooming in, and being the thing that zoomed in swiftly.

happy exploring the mystery of being a human. love, alysia
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Reply #17 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 3:47pm
 
Cosmic Ambitions:

I don't know what a Gregorian ohm sounds like. It sounded more Tibetan, but wasn't made by a human voice. It sounded deep, strong, continuous, and cosmic.


Cosmic_Ambitions wrote on Mar 1st, 2007 at 12:35am:
Recoverer wrote:

"A number of years ago I woke up one night, saw a slowly rotating tunnel that appeared in a pattern that included the color gold and sort of reminded me what you would see on a Tibetan Buddhist poster (Is tanka the correct word?). I heard a cosmic ohm as I saw this. The ohm didn't start when I started to see the tunnel. It seemed like the ohm always existed. It had a sound that was beyond what a human voice could create."

Interesting that you mentioned that "ohm" sound. Did it remind you at all of Gregorian chants or the meditation "ohm". I remember my father telling me that during one of his NDE he heard that "ohm" sound while traveling through the tunnel towards the Light and that it felt to him as being a sort of guide post leading him through the tunnel towards Light. He also said that it was beyond what a human voice could create, but not in those exact words. He said that the music that he heard while "out there" was unlike anything he had ever heard while on Earth... He said that it was incomprehensible in beauty and that it came from nowhere and yet everywhere simultaneously; he said that it just was, as was he.
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Thanks to all for sharing, and I look forward to hearing more!

PUL,
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Reply #18 - Mar 1st, 2007 at 8:05pm
 
Hi CA-

More stuff, just for fun. This was all about 40 years back.

The noise I used to get began as the dinging of a bell when some significant thing would occur. I had half a dozen partly built guitars hanging around the room, and they'd echo and resonate and everything was rather nice. The bell sound migrated to a phsyical bell occasionally. Then there was a second sound, like bees or birds, and finally a sound that was likea mountan collapsing and breaking rocks.  I got up and looked out the windows, but it was all me.  After that, there's just the tinnitis and sizzling of my frazzled brain.

If you look at a black hole in a somewhat more liberal manner than orthodox physics, you'll notice that whatever falls into it goes into a complex hyperspace (the value under the radical in the Lorentz contraction goes negative) which means that it adds a fourth dimension of definition. Thus, while the prior space view sees everything going into spaghetti and singularity, the inside view is that it all goes into a higher dimension which redistributes everything everywhere, so that it seems to bud off into a new universe.  It does this at the speed of light, but since Lorentz shift tends to infinity at the speed, it takes forever (from our viewpoint) although things are quite normal from the perspective of someone riding along.

The advantage of a higher dimension is that it allows the stuff falling nto the BH to be spread out to be everywhere at once. From the inside, we then would look out and see the event horizon receding at the speed of light in all directions, while we would  seem to be standing still in the center of everything, and our space would keep expanding along with everything else. Technically, the event horizon would be reduced to a point , as we look from the outside - a singularity -  from the point, our universe would be like a bubble into a new space in which the point of event horizon would look like a circular circumference. And, if you look out your window at night, you can see how all of this actually looks from inside our present bubble-universe.

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