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Reply #60 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:03am
 
Hi Matthew, my thanks go out to you, also.  I believe Dark Knight was raised as a Catholic, but I'm not sure.  She does post many, many Catholic prayers for others...things that have helped her.   So, I know she appreciates prayers.
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In the case where someone perishes while in a psychic battle of this kind, I truly can say that I am not sure what transpires in the afterlife.
I've thought about this, also.  I've encountered negative entities in the lower realms, but never in the higher.  I'm kind of developing a belief that because their vibration is lower, they are not able to travel to the higher vibration areas.  I say, kind of developing a belief, because every time I think I've got something down, I have a new experience which then impels me to tear down old belief systems, and it gets really old.   Smiley

Regardless, I am confident that there will be plenty of helpers to see her over and help protect her.  I'm committed to being one of them, whether it's in this form and astral traveling, or a higher aspect of myself.  Intent is all it takes.  

I agree that jumping over water might sound a bit, hmmm....looney?   Smiley  But, Robert is working with people of science and has some ideas about how the electromagnetism found in running water may form some kind of shield against certain kinds of entities because of their energetic makeup.  He has dreams of being able to prove some of the theories, but at this point, is nevertheless convinced because of things he has seen and experienced.  I was skeptical, too, until a story he told me about his son (a psychologist) who was thrown across the room in front of him by an unseen force.  Again, there was a child involved who had a type of negative attachment.  He ran outside, had no problem, ran back in to help the child, and was forcefully brought to his knees and unable to move to help the child.  He repeated this several times, and was finally able to take the child outside with him.  Later, they discovered that there was an underground flowing water pipe right across the door's threshold.  Robert's son was a complete nonbeliever until this experienced happened to him.  Robert then tested it out on other people with attachments, with the same results.  There was something to the running water.  Asking his science friends about it, he came up with the hypothesis of electromagnetism and energetic makeup.  I find it very interesting, although possession and working with dark entities is not my cup of tea.  I stay as far away from it as I can, and leave it to those who have a gift and a desire in this area.  Whether some believe it or not, love and light are where my passions and interests lie.
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Re: Demonically Oppressed for 9 yrs: Does it end?
Reply #61 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:12am
 
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By the way, I'm curious as to why you exiled yourself from here.   


He left because he does not like me. Sad
Also because the New Age ghetto is taking control of the board and he is sick of that crap!
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Reply #62 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 3:29am
 
Don, thank you for pointing out DK is not Ralph Buskey - I apologise to both DK and Ralph.  I think it's great of you to offer friendship and Tempest as well you have a strong character and may it be an assest to you.  For your sake I'm concerned about therapist abuse especially on the impersonal medium of the internet where you cannot meet the person and sense their true personality.  It would be better for DK to speak for herself instead of people speaking on her behalf.

I get very impatient with 'poor me' attitudes I must say maybe because living in africa I see so much desolation and poverty where children are parentless and they are forced to fend for themselves.  Their demons are hunger and not self-induced nightmares (sorry being straight again but that's the way I see it) Spoilt attitudes just seem a bit pathetic to me really.   No, it's no reason not to offer love and support to anyone in the world though for every path has it's own up's and downs.  However, if one takes control of one's own path in life it does not unnecessarily drain the energy of sincere people who give out of love.  DK should be encouraged to stand up for herself.  

Chumley - I am a Christian and I believe in the Bible.  I don't have to enlighten you at all - enlighten yourself - we've been through this all before many of our past lives have come and gone, it is not like it is new for you, you've heard God's word many times before and still you have no love or fear for God?  For fear is respect and if you can't understand this then you might as well bow down to the numerous false idols around.

Some more poetry;

The Wisdom of Solomon
"Realising that I was only human, I prayed and was given understanding.  The spirit of Wisdom came to me.  I regarded her more highly than any throne or crown.  Wealth was nothing compared to her.  Wisdom has been my love.  I courted her when I was young and wanted to make her my bride.  I fell in love with her beauty. She glorifies her noble origin by living with God, the Lord of all who loves her.  She is familiar with God's mysteries and helps to determine his course of action.  Still, I realised that I would never receive Wisdom unless God gave her to me.

Wisdom begins when you sincerely want to learn.  To desire Wisdom is to love her.  To love her is to keep her laws; to keep her laws is to be certain of immortality; immortality will bring you close to God.  Wisdom is a spirit that is friendly to people but she will not forgive anyone who speaks against God, for God knows our feelings and thoughts, and hears our every word.  Wisdom shines bright and never grows dim, those who love her and look for her can easily find her.  To fasten your attention on Wisdom is to gain perfect understanding.  If you look for her, you will soon find peace of mind, because she will be looking for those who are worthy of her, and she will be with you in your every thought.  No one can ever exhaust the treasures of Wisdom.  Use those treasures and you are God's friends; he approves of what you learn from her".  

May we all pray for the Spirit of Wisdom in everything we do and say.







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Reply #63 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 4:38am
 
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For your sake I'm concerned about therapist abuse especially on the impersonal medium of the internet where you cannot meet the person and sense their true personality.
Please don't be concerned about this.  I have never acted as a therapist in any form with DK.  I am only acting as a friend.  And, I haven't revealed anything about her that she hasn't already revealed publicly in other forums.

Regarding "poor me" attitudes as compared to poverty and hunger, one thing that I've come to learn is that pain and suffering come in many forms.  And, it can't so easily be placed on a scale to measure one's pain against another.  Psychological pain can be just as devastating as hunger.  Someone losing their livelihood, home, friends, family, and ability to meet their basic needs because of psychological torture, no matter the cause, can hardly be accused of a "poor me" attitude.  Being a caring Christian that you are, please rethink "spoilt attitudes" and something that you have no knowledge of as being "pathetic".  DK does stand up for herself.  Quite strongly, I might add.   Smiley 

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Reply #64 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 9:09am
 
Ho ho ho here we all go again. Demons are so FUN!

Don's back. Chum's on board. Matt's here. Wow, let's all talk about demons and aliens and how to fight their terrible crimes until we're blue in the face.

And, good old Dark Knight. Wow, is she EVER the center of attention!

Who will be next?

I see that Recoverer has stepped out of this one. And Spooky. Don't see Alysia around. Smart, smart, smart.

I think this is really almost funny if it weren't so pathetic.

We SURE do love our demons, don't we?

love, blink
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Reply #65 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 9:37am
 
Smiley lol Blink,  you so right this one post has caused all sorts of emotions ... and the one who started it isn't even here!
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Reply #66 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 12:13pm
 
How uncharacteristically sarcastic of you, Blink!  You usually are the embodiment of peace/Llove and acceptance.  I sort of get what you mean, however.  This thread has it all: controversy, accusation, who has PUL and who has a bug up their #^%/8?  I have been on the sidelines of late, seeing the new kids at play on the forum, and watching them explore some of the topics we've hit on time and again, but with the same bright eyed amazement that we all had for our first times  I like the words of John Lennon when, he stopped writing music to be a house-husband, and then wrote his last album:

"I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round........I really love to watch them roll.  No longer riding on the merry-go-round..........I just had to let it go."

Sometimes its good to be an observer and a listener.  I've been lurking in the background, trying to do just that.  But unlike Don, I have not imposed a banishment on printing here when the spirit moves me.  Hmm...I guess he did that too in his post by posting when the spirit moved him. 

Anyway,  I did include a prayer for DK last night, and will continue to do so.

Matthew
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Reply #67 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 12:27pm
 
I'm not proud of my sarcasm, Matt. But my sentiment stands. I become very weary of these endless discussions of demonic forces.

I feel that they bring down the energies of the forum and that people are much too interested in them.

But, that's just my own opinion. People can take it or leave it.

I'm personally tired right now and trying to steer a clear course for myself. These kinds of convoluted arguments don't help me at all.  So I will sit back and observe, as you suggest, for as long as feels right.

I have been spending a great deal of time in meditation lately. A huge amount of time.

I find no helpfulness in the continual references to outside sources of personal misery among some people. Love resides inside, always, there for the asking, there for the taking.

I apologize if I have offended anyone, but yes, this wheel keeps turning round and round.

To find the center takes the courage to let go of the circular logic and patterns which entrap us.

These originate in our minds. We cannot find peace in the core of our beings by obsessing with and living in our minds.

but just my two cents.....blink
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Reply #68 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 1:50pm
 
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I'm not proud of my sarcasm, Matt. But my sentiment stands. I become very weary of these endless discussions of demonic forces.

I feel that they bring down the energies of the forum and that people are much too interested in them.

But, that's just my own opinion. People can take it or leave it.

I'm personally tired right now and trying to steer a clear course for myself. These kinds of convoluted arguments don't help me at all.  So I will sit back and observe, as you suggest, for as long as feels right.

I have been spending a great deal of time in meditation lately. A huge amount of time.

I find no helpfulness in the continual references to outside sources of personal misery among some people. Love resides inside, always, there for the asking, there for the taking.

I apologize if I have offended anyone, but yes, this wheel keeps turning round and round.

To find the center takes the courage to let go of the circular logic and patterns which entrap us.

These originate in our minds. We cannot find peace in the core of our beings by obsessing with and living in our minds.

but just my two cents.....blink


hello sweetie, here I am!  Yes, well, I wish I could be active on all the many wonderful threads and not so wonderful threads here but my time is limited to just the places where I feel I can do the most good, then I have to get up and dance away my kinks, too much time sitting down here, not good for me. so it is a matter of being directed by spirit where to respond to each other. I have not even read the original post, but if the original poster has blown the coop, it's kind of like, why are we here then?

of course everyone has an interest in projecting guilt outside of their own self, and when we believe in demons, we are projecting blame out there so we can pat ourselves on the back and say, look, I am innocent of crimes, so it is the devil's fault, not mine...yada yada and so forth.
and this is just your standard psychological viewpoint, not religious. yes, I am a tired creature to discuss this over and over.
god save us all. I still love everybody but this love I do not own.
I'm sure if I say anything else, somebody would say I was not being loving.

but I do try to keep up with this place, it's a wonderful place for people to get their thoughts down on paper and make further decisions about what they will believe.
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Reply #69 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:23pm
 
This forum is not representative of Bruce Moen's books, nor his understanding of love or acceptance.  So, you can now rejoice.  I will not be back.
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Reply #70 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:31pm
 
Tempestinateapot:

Some of us want to help Darknight connect to her spiritual power, while you want to scare her. How charming of you.

Even if Robert Bruce's possession story is true (I've been around the block and I am not naive enough to believe everything people claim), here are some important points to consider:

1. He invited the spirit into him.
2. He was never overcome with a dark feeling (hard to imagine how this was possible if something negative had attached itself to him).
3. His mind WAS NOT taken over, because if it was, he would not had tried to resist what a spirit was trying to force his "body" to do.
4. His will WAS NOT taken over, because if it was, he would not had tried to resist what a spirit was trying to force his "body" to do.
5. When push came to shove, he did not drop his infant.
6. The spirit who was controlling him was not able to prevent him from entering the woods.
7. In the end, the spirit who tried to control him failed.

Even if the spirit who attached itself to him did get his body to do something dreadful, Robert would not had been responsible, because he never willed for something dreadfull to take place.

Regarding Robert Bruce being stronger than others, what is your basis for determining this? Because he knows a bunch of astral projection technigues? Because he knows some energy manipulation techniques? These things have nothing to do with spiritual power. Spiritual power is about connecting to God, connecting to love, connecting to your higher self. Does Robert Bruce have anything to offer when it comes to how a person can grow in love?

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Reply #71 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:48pm
 
recoverer,

Thank you for putting and end to this MADNESS!

You summed up the situation beautifuly. I share your thoughts as well as many others here do, I would expect.

Let Love and Peace Reign

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Reply #72 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:51pm
 
Gee Tempest,

No one is ganging up on you or attacking.  You seem like an interesting, knowledgeable and kind soul, who can appreciate the discussions here.  I for one don't want to see you go.  IMHO, I think that this forum does have much of the inquisitiveness that Bruce demonstrates in his book, as well as general good intentions and even love.

There are some immature posters or conversations, but you would find that certain posters, and topics can be inspirational in their depth and insight.  Please stay.

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Reply #73 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 3:09pm
 
Tempestinateapot wrote on Feb 27th, 2007 at 2:23pm:
This forum is not representative of Bruce Moen's books, nor his understanding of love or acceptance.  So, you can now rejoice.  I will not be back.

Don't leave!! You are a wise soul and a good person!!
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Reply #74 - Feb 27th, 2007 at 4:13pm
 
Alysia:

You said a mouth full below. The reason so many people like to go to horror films is because it reminds them of something their own minds can create. Our minds can create all kinds of stuff when we don't allow it to be guided by the light. For some people its easier to blame outside forces all of the time, rather than admit that they have the ability to create a demon all on their own.

Perhaps some people become over obsessed with demons that are out there, because it diverts their attention away from the potential for evil that exists within all of us while we are down here. A play of opposites is a part of what being here in the physical is all about.  When outside influences do come into play, perhaps some people put the cart before the horse, if you know what I mean.

[quote author=laffingrain link=1171976585/60#68 date=1172598640][quote author=blink link=1171976585/60#67 date=1172593677]

of course everyone has an interest in projecting guilt outside of their own self, and when we believe in demons, we are projecting blame out there so we can pat ourselves on the back and say, look, I am innocent of crimes, so it is the devil's fault, not mine...yada yada and so forth.
and this is just your standard psychological viewpoint, not religious. yes, I am a tired creature to discuss this over and over.
god save us all. I still love everybody but this love I do not own.
I'm sure if I say anything else, somebody would say I was not being loving.
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