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Pratekya, Don, and "getting what I want"... (Read 7019 times)
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Re: Pratekya, Don, and "getting what I want"...
Reply #15 - Jan 26th, 2007 at 8:04pm
 
B-dawg wrote on Jan 24th, 2007 at 7:39pm:
Chumley -
P.S. Funny thing. Back when I was sure that we lived in a
benign, materialistic universe I'd marvel at the beauty of
the night sky.
Now when I look at it... ever since I've LOST that old certainty,
I look at the night sky and see what brings to mind a gigantic
unflushed toilet. An inescapable TRAP...
I hereby BLASPHEME the "holy ghost"!!! (That oughtta lay out
my position to the Holy Scumbag...)



Yes, it's all in the eye of the beholder, you are so right. It's really not fun to be sucked down a toilet bowl, especially with your eyes wide open....

but, I must say, I've thrown away a bug or two in my life....alive....

and I guess that feeling like that bug is about as bad as life on earth gets....and it's really surprisingly often that we are asked to feel like bugs. Nobody enjoys a good squashing....and that's what it seems like, doesn't it? That we dance, slave, love, hurt all through our lives, and for what?

That's the big question that no one can answer for us except ourselves. Therefore, any god that exists better know us pretty well...if HE/SHE wants to find out. They better know us inside and out.

So, what's all the praying for? What's all the meditating for? Doesn't the great all-knowing being know us well enough without special words or voyages needed to take us to IT/ALL-KNOWING?

We should feel like we're floating on a raft that is unsinkable. That's where we are...if there is a God.

love, blink
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Re: Pratekya, Don, and "getting what I want"...
Reply #16 - Jan 27th, 2007 at 6:45am
 
Chumley:

But what if you found that God has set things up so you can be extremely happy for all of eternity? Why would you want to miss out on such a thing?

Don't be dismayed because things haven't worked out for you while in here in the physical. This is how things work out at times. Just have the intent to grow in a positive way, and give yourself the time to do so.  When I visited heaven I understood that everything works out wonderfully. Don't do anything to postpone this realization.

Let us say a person believes the key to happiness is money. Should they become angry with a person who offers to give them a billion dollars? Of course not. So why get mad at God who has set things up so we can find all the happiness, peace and love we want in our own way, once we find the way that works for us?  Our own way, because who wants to be a computer program that has no choice?

Perhaps you've had more misfortune than others, and this makes you angry.  There are beings of light who understand that some of us have more difficulty to work through than others. When you finally figure things out you're liable to get a bigger pat on the back than people who didn't have it as hard.
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You see, that's part of problem I have with the whole deal...
"A pat on the back?" Might as well be a "pat on the head." Like
you'd give a dog...
But I'm not a dog!
The only way I can see, short of peaceful oblivion... is the opportunity
to come back here (as many times as it would take) and re-do my
life until I got it RIGHT. Why do I want oblivion? Try on THIS vision of
HELL, and see how it fits...
An eternity of knowing you BLEW IT, and no way to set it right. You
have to EAT your failure. (And you have to live among SUCCESSFUL types, who occasionally find you a handy target to take cheap shots at.)
Sounds like "Hell" to me! (How 'bout you..?)
And why would oblivion be worse than this, or too much for me
to ask for?

B-man

P.S. I'm not going to give you (or anyone else) the details of what's
eating me. But suffice it to say...
It isn't really "happiness" I want. (What IS happiness, anyway?)
It is PRIDE I crave.
To live inside my skin, without the mad, itching desire to jump right out
of it and throw it as far from me as I can (which reincarnation,
or random infinite recurrences of physical consciousness, similar to what Nietzsche believed in (this "materialistic/naturalistic pseudo
reincarnation" is what I'd REALLY like to believe in, MORE on this later), would allow me to do..!
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Re: Pratekya, Don, and "getting what I want"...
Reply #17 - Jan 27th, 2007 at 12:17pm
 
Yes, this sort of reminds me of that children's story about the emperor who had no clothes on. All the people were lined up on the street watching the emperor parade by in his wonderful outfit...he was full of pride at his outfit, which he had been convinced was splendid and better than anyone else in town. As he paraded through the street everyone was aghast but continued to lie and praise the emperor, because they felt it was expected of them. Only one little boy in the crowd had the courage to say, "But He has no clothes on!"

That certainly changed the course of the day.

What if the little boy hadn't said what he really thought? Well, I guess the newest fashion that would be the outcome of all that admiration might put all the tailors completely out of work....that is, if everyone else continued pretending and telling lies to keep their little town functioning together.

But what's so wrong with having no clothes anyway? We're born that way, we'll die that way.

Clothing (and our beliefs) help us to clarify who among us is either: more "worthy" or "needy" -- and that certainly seems to depend on who you are, how you see things....

It's all in the eye of the beholder. That's our little town....and we do enjoy our parades very much.

love, blink
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