Assuming you really want to hear what we have found…

     What you call physical reality will exist as long as there is need for it to exist.  So it should be around for quite awhile yet. This is not to say that any particular THING is going to be around, just Physical Reality.  Once it is no longer required, it will melt away.

Awesome post AhSoLao  exactly in line of what Rudolf Steiner teaches (btw I've come across the linege of Dr. Steiner : Thomas Aquinas, Aristotle, Enkidu, Steiner plus a few more which is not yet disclosed)

Anyhow, yes the Spiritualisation of the Earth is very profound.  Possibly the Lord's Prayer tells us of this event to happen- 

Thy Kingdom come, they will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

The slower vibratory pattern event may have been caused by the planet Luci-Bel (our asteriod belt) blowing up and changing the planets orbit path.  The Fall. This is Helen Blavatsky's work. 

I like what you said, "the manifestation of collective and individual error,yet also the means to salvation from same"

In redeeming (recover or convert) the error the Earth will spiritualise .. or .. go through an inversion of itself that is a turning inside out.  Possibly like we do when our bodies fall away and as we do everytime we sleep.

Well, my two pennies worth

Hey Cosmic_Ambitions, did you read the book before watching the movie?  I am only halfway through the book, and only watched half of the movie.  I intended to finish the movie but my husband returned it before I finished.  

It seemed to me the movie just plowed right along and I was happy to have read the book at least in part before watching the movie as I thought it moved kind of fast.  

augoeideian wrote on Jan 24^th, 2007 at 6:04am:


 Hi there Augo, thanks for the 2 pennies.  Can i have some more, i'm rather poor right now .  

  Hey did not know that Steiner taught a similar thing, thanks for sharing that.  Quite an interesting guy Steiner.  Ever see pics of him, extremely piercing but kind eyes.  

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 That's interesting, and probably possible.  We do know there was an early major collision at some point.    

 But, i believe this is a spiritual issue, which was originally enacted in the Soul and Spirit forces.  

 As far as Earth specifically, there seems to have been two main groups or factions in the earlier and formative periods of the Earth.   One group was basically made up of materialists who wanted to experience the physical in any way they wanted to.   They did not give a darn about the pre-existing patterns within the Earth at the time.  

  Being Souls and pure Light at that point, they decided not only to experience the various consciousnesses of the Earth, like animals, minerals, etc., which isn't wrong in and of itself...but they went one step beyond just experiencing these consciousnesses.   They started to disrupt what was a very harmonious and fluid pattern, which was originally enacted by the Creator(s).  

 They started to create thought-forms, they started to mess with the other consciousnesses in the Earth, they started to mix and match various patterns.   An energy, a pattern by itself, may be good and harmonious in and of itself, but sometimes when different good/harmonious patterns are mixed together, it creates inharmony and discord.

 They were having fun, they were experimenting, but they started to do it outside of the Creative Forces pre-set up pattern which was harmony in its essence.   In their fun and experimenting, they were being selfish, careless, and disregarding consequences to their creating or manifesting.   But there are always consequences to our choices and to our manifesting.  When your choices and creating are aligned to First Cause, to Source's ways, then you will experience joy, expanded consciousness, and peace, yet when you create and choose in opposition to the same, then fear, pain, loneliness will be experienced.   Like attracts and begets like, always and every mili-second of our eternal existences.

  And so, they slowered their inner vibratory patterns, and narrowed their consciousnesss band down more and more.  Their consciousness started to become stuck more and more in the thoughtforms they created.   They created monstrous, violent, and destructive beings.   They became increasingly entangled in weird animal and other life form mixes.

 Yet all the while, another group, who held to the First Cause, and to Source's ways, were trying to remedy the situation.   They realized that a percentage of Souls were now very well stuck in, addicted to, and immersed in physicality and had forgotten a large part of their true heritage as Children of the Creator, as pure Light beings.  

  This group knew that they would have to work with what they had on hand, so they began creating clean, healthy, more harmonious, and less animalistic bodies for Souls... They worked primarily with the primate family to create these better and more fit bodies for Souls.  For Souls certainly have an influence on bodies, but its a two way street, while in physical, the body certainly has an influence on the Soul as well.  

 It was important that harmonious bodies fit for Souls, would be created.   It was and is a long and ongoing process, it still is ongoing and the Watchers are ever trying to help humanity to refine its temporary vehicle, so that eventually those that are stuck can fully transcend physicality, to release matter back to its true state.  To take the physical body, and create the Light body out of it...  Yeshua was the first of humanity to fully accomplish this task.  

 At each major Galactic Alignment, a new root race is birthed, which allows humanity as a whole, to get that much closer to its original state of being, pure Light.  But time is a cyclic loop, and there have been other cycles where groups had already acheived this, as Monroe experienced some million years ago in the "past", just as they probably will around 3500 or so.  

 It is important for those incarnated now, to not indulge the material appetites too much too often.  This creates a pattern in thought and physical forces, which has an influence on the very Soul forces itself.   It lowers the vibratory forces of self, its all a matter of what one aligns too.   If you choose to concentrate and align to matter/physical and all that which is connected to and has sprung from matter/physical and the very reasons why it was temporarily manifested to begin with...it will keep you (and by your influence on the Whole, the collective) stuck.  If you choose to align to Spirit and to disregard matter more and more, then you will become increasingly free.  

 It's rather simple in theory, but the doingness part of it has many of us oft stumped, yet our destinies are sure, and we shall completely free ourselves and become the Gods, the Co-Creators with Source again.  But why not sooner than later?  This is what the very Creator Spirit of this Universe, the Planning Intelligence, the Christ Spirit desires for us, desires us to be full companions with it, and with Source.  Can you not hear them calling out to us, beckoning us to join them in the pure Light of being, to be completely happy and whole again, to be fully One again...  To choose reality, to forget the nonreality we painfully and temporarily manifested for ourselves..