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This Life-After-Death Theory doesn't make sense (Read 1880 times)
Snoopydoo
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This Life-After-Death Theory doesn't make sense
Jan 19th, 2007 at 3:26pm
 
Hi,

Something doesn't make sense to me...

On one hand, you often read that when a person dies, he/she goes through some sort of time tunnel and sees a bright light, a life review and voila, gone in the so-called "Afterlife"...

On the other hand, you often reas that for example, if a person dies in a car accident and is projected outside the car and onto the pavement (person has died instantly), that the person just gets up as if not being injured (of course, he's dead) but the person believes he is still alive and does not know he is dead. How come in this scenario, there is no mention of the tunnel and the bright light and the life review? If the dead person would have seen this, he would have known he was dead???

Doesn't make any sense to me...

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Re: This Life-After-Death Theory doesn't make sens
Reply #1 - Jan 19th, 2007 at 5:07pm
 
Greetings snoopydoo,

Good to hear from you again!
You've been a member since April, almost a year ago, and you've posted 22 times.
Yet somehow you've missed the basis of the whole retrieval system which is what we're trying to emphasize here.   Huh
In your second example the death was accidental, sudden, traumatic.  The accident was so quick and abrupt that the soul 'never knew what hit it.'  So it didn't have time to prepare. Another soul might have such a long. slow, lingering illness that it too would not know when its body gave in to death. It's the ones who do not know that their bodies are no longer living that we try to find and send to the Light.

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Reply #2 - Jan 19th, 2007 at 6:03pm
 
Snoopydoo,

There are two answers to your question.  One is obvious and the other is more ominous and sinister.  The obvious answer is that the clinically dead enter the NDE in various depths.   Some never reach the stage where they encounter a Bring of Light and deceased relatives.  The more ominous reason derives from the astral research of Emanuel Swedenborg, the astral explorers with the best verifications.  ES discovers that those bound for hellish planes do not experience the Past Life Review because they are unlikely to respond to it as a transforming learning experience.

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Reply #3 - Jan 19th, 2007 at 6:40pm
 
I believe that God and his helpers know what's going on down here, and near death experiences are used in various ways in order to communicate their message.

The near death experiences of people who don't have problems are the experience of just some people.

Some people like Howard Storm do initially end up in a hell like realm during their near death experience, and stay there until they call out for help. A spirit isn't bound to call out for help until it is ready to change on whatever psychological condition it is that caused it to get stuck in an unpleasant place

Various sources of information state that spirits do have a tough time crossing over, according to their state of mind when they die.
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Reply #4 - Jan 19th, 2007 at 7:05pm
 
Why must you guys frighten the newbies?  The answer for different experiences directly relates to different states of consciousness and hindering belief systems.  Put simply, if your strong beliefs act as "blinders" you may not be open to the love and light of the divine.  Bruce encountered a woman in perpetual sleep because she believed so deeply that death was rest and eternal sleep.  She may have been that way for quite some time.  I doubt she recognized a light or had a life review. 

I have heard it said that most of us end up with the light/life review in Focus 27.  Out of billions on this planet, I am curious about this assumption.  I would have guessed about 20% of us would have that experience. 


Those who never see a light or being of light may either have negative karma to work out first or have to lose their hindering beliefs which prevent them from seeing the light. 

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Reply #5 - Jan 19th, 2007 at 8:09pm
 
My father had numerous NDEs that ranged in depth and intensity. He had one experience where he was outside of his body looking down at himself; then instantaneously he was back in his physical body again. He had another experience where his essence vacated his physical body and traveled roughly 500 physical miles in the blink of an eye to where his grandmother lay dying... She reported to her daughter (my father's mother) that he had seen my father and that everything was going to be okay... This was verified by both my father and his mother separately. He guided her towards the light and helped her to cross over. She was very fearful of dying and he was communicated to that this was the reason for his assistance. Then a deeper experience he had was when he said he was traveling through a  "tunnel" guided by melodies/music/singing towards what he described as the brightest most intelligent indescribably beautiful loving light one could possibly imagine. He said that he felt as though if he didn't follow the melodious music/subtle guiding energies that he would veer out of the tunnel. Which to him felt like a wrong place to be. He eventually made it to the light and was engulfed by its undefinable loving nature/supreme consciousness that human terms cannot adequately express. Then he was sent back to his body (not his time). I'm not sure what would have happened had he veered off course while in the tunnel... But, maybe it has to do with what the soul resonates with; possibly different levels of existence that are sorted by vibrational levels. I'm not quite sure.

So, there are different depths to the afterlife experience.

My father's past religious beliefs didn't seem to play that big of a role in what he experienced. He had not heard of experiences with the light prior to his own experiences, so there was nothing to cater to this impression. It just was.

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