Don wrote:

"Rob Roy from this site has, like myself, experienced Mary's presence."

That's correct. Recently she channel a transcript of what she said to me in that meeting, as I was at a different focus level, had at that time very limited awareness, and didn't remember what she told me.

Hail Mary, full of PUL, blessed are thou among women, and blessed art we in the Grace of thy presence.

BTW. according to guidance she's an Ascended Master. Her son Jesus is as close to Source as it's possible to be and therefore to say He's God is both accurate and inaccurate.

She started me on my (never-ending) journey to full awareness and gave me my first experience of PUL. PUL from an AM is nothing like anything one can experience from a human (physical) person.

Love,
Rob

BTW she, in her humility, prefers to be thought of as an ordinary person, like us. Can't quite help but praise her a bit anyway.

Juditha,

I hope very, very much she will be able to take him.  That would be an amazing trip.

About 10 years ago my cousin went to Prague, to the site where the apparitions of the Virgin Mary appeared way back when.  She said there were many people there praying when she visited the hillside and that it was extremely moving.  I can't even imagine.  I think she brought back a couple of containers of holy water and my Mom most probably has one somewhere.

Anyway, please keep us informed if and when Deanna will take John to Lourdes.

Love,
Katie

Recoverer,

"I recently asked my guidance about Jesus and one time I received "How would you set things up if you were God," and another time "What are you?" Or in other words, guidance didn't want to tell me, it wanted me to figure things out. I ended up coming up with an answer that basically matches yours."

Yes, sometimes Guidance does that to me too. They also tend refuse to answer or ignore ego-based questions as well. And when making inquiries of a particular person, that individual's guide(s) may block answering and even ascended masters will honor that. It's interesting what you can learn and what you can't. Timing and one's spiritual disposition seem to be factored in too.

"I'm not certain, but my feeling is that Jesus didn't get to where he is without working for it. It makes sense that an example such as him would go through the same thing we have to go through before we reunite with God."

I'm not 100% sure either because I haven't asked that particular question, but I think your inference is the only viable conclusion.  Given his development and his closeness to Source, I think we can better understand when we hear He's "fully human and fully divine". It's sad that his teachings have been distorted by deletions, interpolations, and mountains of complex theologies that have little to do with PUL, furthering the confusing the difference between religion and pure spirituality. Ditto for the teachings of other AMs who brought higher awareness to this planet.

Love,
Rob

Hi Rob When i put this on here about John and my sister Deanna i didnt ask you to be concerned and i thought on here this is were everyone talks about things ,like what your always quoteing Pul, but seems like your  like a lot more out there in the world plenty to say and nothing to back it with.

Same as when i gave spooky that reading on here ,you were the one who had to say i was writing personal stuff about him,but then i put that down to jealousy of me being a medium and your not.

My sister Deanna and John are my concern anyway,so go swivel in the grass roots of calcutta.

You want to practise some of the PUL you go on about.

Love Juditha

Isecond that juditha he should go swivel in the long grass of calcutta ha-ha love your sis deanna

[recoverer: ] "I'm not certain, but my feeling is that Jesus didn't get to where he is without working for it. It makes sense that an example such as him would go through the same thing we have to go through before we reunite with God. "
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Yes, the New Testament supports your insight, but the church sadly downplays Jesus' acceptance of all our human limitations.  Christ "emptied" Himself of all His divine prerogatives to become fully human (Philippians 2:7).  This self-emptying means that the earthly Jesus was limited in His knowledge (Mark 13:32).  "Jesus kept increasing in wisdom...and in favor with God and men (Luke 2:52)."  Luke implies that Christ subjected Himself to a human phase in which He was deficient in wisdom and divine favor.  His unfertainty about the future sometimes filled him with anxiety: "While Jesus was here on Earth, He offered prayers and pleadings with loud cries and tears to the One who could deliver Him out of death.  And God heard His prayers because of His godly reverence (Hebrews 5:7)."  In the agony of His crucifixion, Jesus has moments of doubt: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me (Mark 15:34)?" 

As a young carpenter, He seems to have performed no miracles.  Apparently, He was unable to restore his step-father Joseph's life, when Joseph died at a young age.  Jesus needed His anointing by the Holy Spirit at His baptism before He was empowered with His healing and messianic ministry. 

Jesus had to learn by trial-and-error just as we do:  "Altough He was a Son [of God, He learned obedience form the things He suffered (Hebrews 5:8)."  Thus, He felt the need to accept John's baptism of repentance.  But one must not equate the maturation process with sin.  Jesus remained sinless in the sense that none of His early mistakes separated Him from His experience of unity with God.  Christ needed to embrace all our limitations to serve as our genuine example:

"This high priest of ours [Jesus] can empathize with our weaknesses; for He was tested on all points just as we are, yet without sin (Hebrews 4:15)."

Don

Juditha and Deanna,

"Hi Rob When i put this on here about John and my sister Deanna i didnt ask you to be concerned and i thought on here this is were everyone talks about things ,like what your always quoteing Pul, but seems like your  like a lot more out there in the world plenty to say and nothing to back it with."

You're right, you didn't ask me personally to be concerned. You asked EVERYONE, including me, to be concerned when you posted on this public board. There are all the board members and an untold number of lurkers who could have responded. Few did. Many care. Why did you respond with personal attacks, insults, anger and abuse? These are all fear-based. And you know that Love and fear cannot coexist. So no matter how you took what I said, you should not have responded the way you did. And how you respond is completely your choice and your responsibility. You could have used your understanding of PUL and your life experience to respond differently, but you chose not to.

"Same as when i gave spooky that reading on here ,you were the one who had to say i was writing personal stuff about him,but then i put that down to jealousy of me being a medium and your not."

I'm more intuitive than you think. I took a long break from posting on this board. Guidance prompted me to respond to your post.

BTW, mediumistic ability is NOT as sign of high spiritual awareness and advancement. Some people are born with gifts or discover or develop them later in life. That doesn't mean they're necessarily ahead of their peers. If anything it's even more of a challenge for them to handle. And from what I see from you're response, you're not handling it too well. And I have absolutely no problem with anyone being a medium or not. I have my own abilities which I don't need to brag about on this board.

I'll put this in easy to understand Christian terms: "Thy will by done." It's not up to me or anyone else to decide whether or not John gets cured. That's up to God, and between the soul of John and God. Our judgement is not greater than God's. Even John can't say what's best for him because his awareness is limited. But God knows. Perhaps you should trust in God and not in fear-based thinking. Did you believe that Mary would, even for an instant, go against the will of God? This I know from direct personal experience: She would NEVER have misread what I wrote like you did and she would NEVER respond as you two did. You've asked for her intercession. Maybe She will, maybe She won't, depends on the will of God. Your faith is in God and what He sees as best, trusting that whatever happens is in His hands and for the highest good.

"My sister Deanna and John are my concern anyway,so go swivel in the grass roots of calcutta. Isecond that juditha he should go swivel in the long grass of calcutta ha-ha"

You think this is an insult? Millions in Calcutta would disagree, as I think would Mother Theresa were she still there. I would LOVE to go see Calcutta and "swivel" in the grass.

"You want to practise some of the PUL you go on about."

I am.

I have been responsive to your plight, been truthful, and done so without fear-based thinking. I apologize for the pain this has caused you. This is what guidance wanted me to convey to you.

"Hi robroy you know nothing about what my beautiful son john has had to suffer in his life ,i know the mother mary would want to cure my son john he is a very loving person he deserves to be cured of this autism so he can have a life of his own ,which is every human beings right from the moment they are born ,my john cannot have this priveledge at the moment because he has to be supervised 24/7 ,he loves motorbikes ,he would dearly love to ride one on the road but he cannot because of his autism ,he would love to have a girlfriend ,he would love to be able to go out on his own but theses things are restricted because of his autism ,i will take john to lourdes i have been thinking about it for a while i have my faith in lourdes"

I also have a son who is autistic.

Your faith is in God, not in Lourdes, not even in Mary.

Love,
Rob

(4) At Fatima, Portugal on  May 13, 1917, 3 illiterate young siblings were tending sheep when, frightened by a lightning bolt, they ran down the slope and suddenly saw a dazzling apparition of a woman within the foliage of an oak tree.  She assured the children that they would go to heaven, informed them about the spiritual fate of several recenetly deceased Fatima villagers, and warned them that they would suffer much in the coming months.  She asked them to return there on the 13th of every month for 6 months and promised that she would reveal her identity on October 13.  In her excitement, Jacinta broke her agreement with Lucia and Francesco to keep the vision a secret.   Their mother accused them of lying and they were constantly mocked by the skeptical townsfolk.  

On July 13, Mary urged Lucia to pray daily for the War to end, promised to heal several of Fatima's sick people if Lucia would fervently pray for them, and promised to perform a miracle for the witnesses on October 13.  Mary also imparted several secrets to Lucia.

Political officials eventually had the children abducted, brutally questioned, and threatened with death if they refused to retract their claims.  Still, nono of the children would admit they had lied.  Their abduction forced them to miss their appointment with the woman on August 13.  When the children arrived at the oak tree on Sept. 13, 30.000 people, including an important Catholic official, saw the sun dim at noon so that stars were clearly visible, an orb of light glide towards the tree and then settle in it, and a rain of white flower petals which disappeared before they hit the ground.  A photograph of this rain of petals was taken and published.  It caused a great sensation  and persuaded legions of skeptics.  

On October 13, the woman revealed her identity to Lucia as Our lady of the Rosary.  She granted the children a series of visions.  Lucia then cried out for everyone vto look at the sun.  Suddenly most of the 70,000 present saw tke clouds part and a huge bright silver disk  (which everyone took to be the sun) float in the sky, gyrate, and throw off colored flames in all directions.  The disk then began to plunge towards the earth, creating  such intense heat that that the crowd of 70,000 (including countless atheists)  began to panic.  After about 12 minutes, the disk suddenly stopped and returned to the sky.  Oddly, people witnessed the miracle as far away as 24 miles, and yet, at least 2 women present at the sight saw nothing.

Catholics have been particularly impressed by several secrets disclosed to Lucia during her various apparitions.  In 1927 Lucia revealed that Mary had informed her in 1917 that Francesco and Jacinta would soon die and join her in Heaven.  The two children died of influenza in 1919-1920.  Lucia then disclosed more secrets revealed to her by Mary in 1917:

:The War [WW1] is going to end; but if people do not cease offending God, a worse war will break out during the pontificate of Pius XI.  When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famines, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father."

This amounts to a prediction of the imminent end of World War 1 and the start of World War II.  Shortly before the Nazi invasion of Austria, an unprecedented spectacular display of aurora borealis could be seen all over Europe.  Many Catholics also see Mary's next disclosure as a prediction of the rise, dominance, and fall of Russian Communism:

"to prevent this, I [Mary] shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the first Saturdays.  If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church...Various nations will be annihilated.  In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph.  The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."      

Don