Hi Cricket good questions and I don't have answers of any great merit but some thoughts off the top..that the foot soldiers are very important to the general, else he couldn't be a general, so it's like an equal situation. I'm like a choir person in other words, without the choir, the soloist is pretty dull. I see in my mind life planners on the other side, but they are only in suggestion capacity and that life here is an experiment on each part. u really can't own your own soul if there's coercement on the part of the planners towards that.

but thinking outside of linear time and now I believe both are realities, linear time marching in order and another dimension where every life is happening at once like a huge wave of consciousness units connected to each other and forgetting this connection to make their own unique design of the snowflake pattern through the experiences and choices.
then I see these other beings higher evolved, the overseers who have nothing better all day than to watch all of us experimenting and I hear them saying OMYGOD! now what are they doing?
send reinforcements quickly! they're setting off the atom bomb!

another thought: if thinking in terms of linear time and inbetween life planning stages we can view this image if it helps:
TV was invented first on the other side before it got here. so theres all these monitors and TV's and they set you down to have you look at images of your life to be by flipping through the channels. each channel will show a different possibility for that life and you pick the channel finally deciding which movie you want.
then u get a choice whether to dive in immediately or go talk about it some more.

i got this from a friend of mine who said he came back too soon, too eager to get started he said! he was the most innocent of hard knocks person I'd ever met so I believed him.
along these lines of everything happening at once, Hitler won the war and all of that progression is playing itself out in another dimension of time. one thing is for sure, although he might have made it to the top, life is designed in this dimension that after reaching the top, there's nowhere to go but down insofar as dictators are concerned.

I hear you when you say you have a problem with definite rules for how it works, same here, thats why we come back as pagans and hippies, etc. hey, check out this new image I found..hee hee


its natural to want to break out of the room, so your idea of the grab bag and my idea of the experiment is like the same idea.  I think we can become better planners young and old when we start noticing other people around us and start planning for the highest good instead of just what we want, yet the planners will be the first to say "do what u want then come on back and tell us what happened."

Hi Cricket maybe you work somewhere in the justice realm? seems something has occurred for you that is not fair.

the best I can give forth here is that there is two parts to the mind, the unconscious intentions for incarnating, and the conscious C1 mind which goes about the daily routine until the unconscious is becoming known.

There are many who don't get a chance to plan their lives at first, they would be swept up in life, we are not all equally the same vibration, the same age, so to speak, but we all have the same opportunities to learn and we are all loved equally by something which allowed us to become.

we all go through learning phases. for me learning to get into the now moment and appreciate whatever was there was an important thing to do, and it leads to an awakening of one's intentions for incarnating my opinion.
the issue of what's fair and what's not fair boils down to a realization that we are responsible for what we feel, and that another cannot tell you how you will feel or react in any situation. then u know being shafted is quite impossible unless you're allowing that to happen by being unconscious that it could happen.

this not going to make sense to you I know.   but even unfair situations can be turned around and seen from another perspective that it led to a positive situation occurring for the greater good.

we can get off the wheel, this I know is possible. its just a decision of accepting the consequences of that decision whatever that turns out to be. a willingness to be wrong possibly and a willingness at the same time to change my mind with further information coming in. we are constantly counseling each other on the other side, so there's hope!

I like your thoughts Rob and I think thats part of being part of a forum like this that we lead each other into more thoughts..

you talk about the balance we come back for, that maybe one thing to look for. a lot of folks who work in the justice system are those kind of moderator spirits holding those scales in their souls.
I can only speak personally if I want to be heard..so here goes. I came in as the emotional type, probably too right brained artistic. quite out of balance with the left side of logic, mental areas. the whole idea from the pov of my guides was to get balanced the mental conception to the emotional abstract area, or we can call it the subconscious and conscious area, or even we can take Monroe's hemisphere halves and put them together for the balance idea.
I think I'm in balance these days sufficient to my perception. what I wanted to talk about is we all have different reason for diving in. after writing my book about some roadsigns I followed for self discovery, and here again, you're right, god is discovering himself/herself here on this planet, is a good way to put it, the eye viewing the eye.

I came in to retrieve someone in my family was on the wrong road. I know this now, but didn't comprehend my mission until many years after it was accomplished. It was about not giving up on this person. might have been stubborness on my part but since it turned out so well I get to take the credit for setting him right, as indeed it was him that told me I was successful, this through love, unconditional, obes, and C1 behavior. speaking of justice and balance, something like that happened in the heart area of both of us.
since then I've seen all you need to do here is help one person to be assured a safe return to focus 27, the park, where more freedom of expression exists, say than on the lower bst's.

so then I read ACIM which informed me the only thing that matters around here is our relationships..we get on the other side, and right away we're trying to mend what we left undone on the surface of the planet.

thats why I think if we take care of what's in front of us, the people in our lives are the people we've been waiting to meet all our lives, especially uncle jack or that person you thought you married by mistake. none of it is a mistake after you see the overview, it was just what you needed although you thought it wasn't what you wanted.

I think we come in with a set of probable circumstances known as intentions or plans. we can get off track too. I was gonna live a life with drugs and a helper interrupted my plan (thank god) he said it wasn't in my intentions to do that.
Seemed like a miracle at the time that I didn't want drugs anymore after that.

I have strange dreams that in two years I will spy a toothbrush laying on the counter that I will have purchased on sale.
two years later I see the package in a new house that I saw in my dream, the same package the same bathroom and when dreampt, I was in another state, another house with no plans to move to this particular state.

so I can see that a part of me is drawing the future based on known factors of my character and my habits:
1) this part of me knew that I can't resist a good sale.
2) I would move to a part of the united states where the property is so cheap it's almost free.
3) the reason I would move was for financial reasons, so I wouldn't have to work and could write a book
4) some guides in order to make this happen for me told me the price I would have to sell my current property for in order to move and write this book in another state where the property was affordable. so we have helpers, I'm not the only one who has helpers.
5) the toothbrushes would be found in this other state..my higher self knew once I saw the sign "family Dollar stores" my brakes would be squealing...sigh....somebody reads me well...must be me, yet my unconsciousness part of me, the higher self we could call it.

so we might ask about destiny, whether it's real, and how silly to say it was destiny I pick up some toothbrushes 2 years from now. I gave myself this dream I think just to get myself thinking about destiny and how much freedom I really have about that in terms of the way I act and the things I'm in the habit of doing.
I vasilate between feast and famine type balancing thoughts...limit and unlimited thoughts..I think we all do.
I think our lives only change for the better to work on our thoughts and feelings, but not on another person's thoughts and feelings as right or wrong.
then we take what we've learned to the other side where it's less of a struggle to live and be happy, but also less of opportunity to get our characters balanced and strong. basically, unconditionally loving is what I mean.

I went to a mentor for a look at past lives once and related to a few things she said. she said I had lived a life where I had everything I needed, was perhaps spoiled and rich, lots of leisure time, beauty, etc...castle to live in whatever. just didn't cut it for me. came back to focus highly displeased with myself. must have not really helped anybody out that time. came back as a nurse (all this probably not linear time) attending the sick in hospitals..was told many a patient was soothed by the way I wiped their brow as they slept and this helped them deal with their pain, then there must have been a food shortage..she said I starved to death slowly as I was giving my food away to them.

these lives I do relate to as I'm so much into giving everything I own away even today, or I try to sell something like property for $50 below market and my kids rush in and say HEY! THATS OUR INHERITAGE! I get sheepish and concede I need watching!

looking at other lives these days is very enlightening to lead my thoughts somewhere out in the wild blue yonder...some of them were about learning how to die well. I don't think any of us know how to die well. I mean without all the fear around it.

we should not mourn at funerals, we should throw a party.
love, alysia

Berserk wrote:

"And how can the Disk concept be reconciled with the discoveries of Swedenborg, Robert Bruce, and George Ritchiie that we experience memory loss as we progress through the astral territories?  How can it be reconciled with the insights of Robert Bruce and Swedenborg that time still exists in the astral realms in the sense of sequential changes of mental state, though its "rate of pasage" may be compressed?"

I asked my father if during his NDE if he had any recollection of the life that he had just left. His response was that his memory of his former life was not recollected through the tunnel or in the light. He just was.

That's not to say that it isn't eventually recollected, but rather that his experience did not carry him far enough to reach that point.

Interesting thought though. Maybe it's not initially remembered thereby easing the initial transition.

Also, interestingly my father reported that he did have a sense of significant "time" passing as he traveled through the tunnel and into the light... although he said that his return trip back to his body took no time at all.

PUL,
Cosmic_Ambitions

remembering...memory..I'm reminded of a physics show where they showed on the brain itself a tiny line impressed on the tissue each time we learn something new.

aside from my brain which is going to turn into dirt someday I'm an ACIM student and teacher. we are all at the same time students and teachers of what we believe in, no matter the subject whether religion or science or economics, we teach what we need to learn.
the brain is a mere reflection of the mind which is eternal.

After I studied a year the ACIM material I was told to forget the material and go and live it, see if what it said was correct. so far it's been proven correct what it said. for my own experience of course.
one of the things it said is that all of us are in process of remembering who we are.

we always were since the beginning co creators with god. so if you see intuition, hunches, aha moments in this light, that you are remembering who you are it helps to cause you to not believe in separation ideas anymore, instead to feel your intrinsic oneness with god, all that is, and all become your brothers, all become your kin.

In our oneness there is nothing to fear anymore. fear is the opposite of love. we are love operating in a world of fear, in the act remembering that we are love and we are all one. too simple huh? works for me.  thank you for a great well put together post Doc. you should be paid

Hi Juditha I feel much the same way as you do, but I feel like you are needed here with the special gift that you give simply because this world is so lacking in unconditional love and you are learning this so it's difficult as you know and remember love and caring on the other side. I think it's an unconscious knowing and we come here to become conscious, like manifest what we know.
I saw many spirits on the other side once they get home they are saying, oh I see what I was doing now and I didn't do such a bad job after all, and I don't think you are doing badly at all from what I can see here!

keep up the good work. A lot of people respect you here. love, alysia