Great post Juditha, we must have been writing at the same time 

And the debate goes on. Just as it has for the past 2,000 years.  --cat

Invisible History for some perspective

Think of the vast difference between man and mineral!
Yet man is only three stages above the mineral.  Try to conceive of the sublimity of beings who are nine, eight, or even seven stages above man.  These supersensible beings, the highest of the Spiritual Hierarchies, are called the Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones – the First Hierarchy.

It is they who comprise the twelve differentiated groupings which we call the Zodiac, which forms as it were, the womb of our solar system.  As a teacher was once a student and as a mother was once a child, so these exalted divine beings came from an earlier solar system in which they passed through their lower stages, until they were so advanced that their solar system could be transformed into our Zodiac and they could rise to mighty, creative, cosmic deeds and make the great sacrifice which gave birth to our solar system. Beyond them is the Divine Trinity, the Threefold Unity.

From the twelve directions of space, they organised the warmth and laid the foundation for the twelvefold differentiated warmth we bear in our twelve-membered physical body today, from Aries-head to Pisces-feet.

There is no chance or accidental coincidence in the recurrent reflection of the heavenly pattern in earthly life.  We find it in the twelve sons of Jacob, the twelve tribes of Israel, the twelve disciples of Christ Jesus and the twelve Knights of the Round Table.

And with same principle mankind, with Earth at the midway station, is evolving the three spirit principles: the spirit-self, life-spirit and spirit-man. All mankind will evolve them somewhat in the course of their future incarnations, and fully in the future planetary existences, called the Jupiter, Venus and Vulcan Periods, through which the Earth will pass in the future, before the beings of our solar system reach the stage of creativity when they can participate in the birth of a new Zodiac and solar system. For man is becoming the Fourth Hierarchy, named the Spirits of Freedom and Love.  At the end of the Earth Period, love should be part of everything, as wisdom is now.

For an approach to this consciousness, we need an enlarged- a cosmic –concept of the Christ, the sublime Sun Spirit who incarnated in Jesus of Nazareth from the Baptism till the Mystery of Golgotha, when he become the Spirit of the Earth and ‘The Lord of all the heavenly forces upon Earth.’ Christ is the being who in the Sun Period selflessly gave himself up in devotion to the Twelve Voices of the Word of Worlds, which kindled in him such Light that he can say, ‘I am the light of the world.’  He belongs to our cosmos as a whole and spreads life throughout our entire universe.  For those who direct their thought to him during waking life, he becomes their guide through the cosmos during sleep and between death and rebirth.  The Midnight Sun; The Spiritual Sun.

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Hi OOBD How do you know you are right about it all,weres the actual proof that you have got it right and that others have got it wrong,Chumley is the same,thinks he knows it all.

Love and God bless       Love Juditha

Juditha.  Although it has been debated in the past, it is a scientific fact that the ancients who worshipped a mirror-image Jesus character(Horus, Krishna, ect.. theres 15 to choose from!) knew that this person was simply a representation of the sun.  They worshiped the sun, and they knew this.  They chose to personify the sun by creating a character and myths to go along with it.  Modern religions have been taken far to literally, however.  I believe I have the capability to see through this because while you are already on the Christian side of the fence, you have been worshiping the sun, I mean Jesus, for your whole life, I was presented these facts on middle ground, I did not have any strong beliefs for or against religion or Jesus.  It was my unbiased eye that allowed me to see the truth, and it is your biased eye that prevents you from doing the same.  

outofbodydude:

The bible is in our lives the only living arcive of our existence. Putting that all aside, the bible does not teach, or niether does any of the churches teach the true teachings of Jesus that were left out of the Bible as a way to control. By going out of body you can find out these truths if your heart is filled with the love of God. For jesus was the true messhiah, and not many believeed him in his time. In the spirit world you will find that most of the sayings in that bible that jesus said he will tell you himself that he did not say, along with some of the so-called miricales, such as raising Lazzaras from the dead, he was only in a death like condition, and the silver cord had not yet been severed. For once the silver cord is severed, there is no earthly law, or any law in the spirit kingdom of the government that can return a spirit back to the body. Also all of the apostiles will tell you that alot of the books they did not write, only in the recopying and translation, and through the imagination of other writers these books were altered so that enen the originater of said book can not identify with it. And even a scolar of the bible can not discern the truths form the untruths. But these truths are there for those that want to seek them out by talking to these spirits. Although it is diffucult to reach the celesstial heavens, these exalted beings come down to the lower realms to answer any and all questions. The only thing needed is faith and lover in your soul to a degree, that you can see and communicate with these spirits, to learn these truths. As the Bible states: "Seek and ye shall find"


dimensionally yours,

ricktimet

Dude!  I think you just grew by a few years!