I notice some here don't have a belief in a God as a whole, at least not the same way others may.
Altough I've been trying to read out of body journeys, I haven't gotten to read some of this other material.
But I just wonder where anyone thinks that are seperate conciousness come from, or whom created this universe this planet that was readily made to sustain life the way that it was.
Who made the flowers smell and who gives spiritual gifts to some.
Where does light come from?
How do you travel out of the body? Did someone make it so?
Who puts you to sleep? Why do you sleep? Who created time? What does the concept of time mean to you?( LOL got that one from Pauls Rushes album)
Who speaks to me in such a deep spiritual way? How does he do that?
Who made fear, love, anger, hope, pain?
Why do the chakras spin in me? Who made that? Can you tell me that because thats not in the bible? Why do they spin? Why do we have auras?
Are we above creation or part of it?
Those are just a few questions I have.

Hi eggshellseas2,

Those are a lot of questions. But I do love them.

I think God is like an artist whose canvas is so broad and so deep that we cannot fathom it.

We are like fish in an ocean. We can swim and swim and never get to the end of it or the bottom of it. Sometimes we see the light, glimmering through the veil that separates us from the atmosphere, and occasionally we may leap into the sparkling rays.

However, what do we really know of the sun? We are but fish, and we must swim.

Who made the flowers smell and who gives spiritual gifts to some?
We are all flowers and we all have God-given gifts.

Where does the light come from?
The light comes from the sun, our source....and the radiant magnificence of being.

How do we travel out of body? Did someone make it so?
We travel out of body by going within. God is the Source, and the beginning of all things.

Who puts me to sleep? You and your weariness.
Why do I sleep? To learn to let go of illusion and how to rest in the spontaneous freedom of being.
Who created time? We did.
What does the concept of time mean? Nothing.

Who speaks to me in such a deep spiritual way? You do.
Why do I do that? Because you must.

Who made fear, love, anger, hope, pain? We did.

Why do the chakras spin in you? Explain them.
They are our colors, our passions. They express who we are and what we need.

Are we above creation or part of it?
We are creation and creators. It is all One.

love, blink

Those are very inlightening answers to me.
At the same time I cannot help but feel as thogh I am a created being.
Having met the one I percieved as my creator. I loved him.
I have no doubt that we are vessels which are used in the created process but even that didn't just happen without intention. Something gives you existance and life here or there. Or anywhere.

Hi I was talking to a preist today about God and he said that a snowdrop in full bloom is the beauty of god and so many of us miss the moment.

I also beleive the planet started with the collision with another planet and then God took over and created the spirit in everything because the earth is solid mass and only God could have given the spirit in everything.

Love and God bless    Love Juditha

The problem with that question is that, at least in my experience, the great majority of those who ask it really mean "Do you believe in the Christian God?" (though not as much on this board).  I emphatically do not.  I don't know that I believe unequivocally in any god...anything you could use as an example of "God" could apply to an extremely advanced alien race, multiple non-physical entities, luck, coincidence...this doesn't mean there isn't one, just no proof.

Then there's the fact that none of the assorted "proofs" are necessarily connected.  God could not exist.  God could exist, created us, then sat back to watch his experiment work, with or without intervention from other non-physical beings, aliens...etc....

I have a strong suspicion that there is more out there than meets the eye, but beyond that, I've never seen anything that even comes close to proof of a specific, describable God.

I Am Dude wrote on Jan 4^th, 2007 at 6:47pm:


I'm thinking this mesage board may not be for me, because I have seen the wicked people in my life confounded by their own actions, and for me I hate evil , I do, and if there is no one to decide what is to become of the souls of those whom destroy what is good whether its in heaven or here. Then that really puts me in a shallow place. What ever name you want to give him. Or not give him, I have felt glory and have seen angels, so d0on't say I'm crazy for saying so escpecially if you believe in aliens. I have seen, and heard the glory of God. There are physical places which goodness reigns, I belive that. This is going to become such a place, in this realm. So if you think that you can leave your body and become whatever it is you think you want to be. Good luck doing it on your own. I am sorry for my sarcasm, if it seems that way, I don't mean to be that way. I will continue my own route, I for one have someone watching over me.
Here is one example:
A girl was planning to marry an ex boyfriend of mine, she is half sister to a politician that you all know of. She refered to him as uncle. She knew about my son, whom was her boyfriends natural son, and even though I never told the guy about my son, she sought vengance, she tried to kill my son a number of times, even tried to toss him off a roller coaster. She even poisend us at one point, you see my cousin was her second cousin, she confessed it all to me. We lived. Then the angel visited me. Then I told things to my former pastor via the phone which he recorded. She became silent friends with this pastors wife which gave her the tape, and world events I spoke about were on that tape! And personel events, and these things happened and continue to happen.
Eventuall the one that did this to me, she stopped talking and eating for a long period of time. I did nothing to cause that. Shes gotten better I suppose, I can't say for how long because she could be back for second row. And because I have faith, I can say bring it on! So who is there to help you?

Mattimo wrote on Jan 4^th, 2007 at 9:14pm:


Michael is watching over someone and his name means "One who is like God"
Where ever you go when you pass this life, I don't think you'll enter inhis Kingdom unless you are his, I just don't think it. I believe the hearts of man can be read, I have seen what can happen if you mess around with one of His. And from what I remember he is male. Very male. So choose to do evil if you wish because you think there will be no accountability for it. And see if He will let you in. Oer you can just believe in aliens and see if they help out.

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Well if you are threatened by new concepts and different ideas than what you are used to, than this may be the best move, for this is something that constantly occurs here.  This is a place where everyone is constantly learning and growing, exploring all possibilities and searching for truth.  Instead of taking subtle shots at me, you could instead consider the possibility that the idea we are presenting you may have some truth to it.  I am sure many members on this board have much more expeirence and knowledge about this, and even if somthing presented is not in tune with what you feel is truth, the least you could do is accept it for what it is instead of making fun of someone for believing in aliens or leaving their body.  The concept of the god you are thinking of is strictly based upon religious standards, and I see it being proven over and over again that relgions are no more than well told fairytales.  I have seen the validity of religions cruble before my eyes.  I dont see what the big deal is anyway... I am very glad that there is no supreme ruler up in heaven sending lightning bolts down at sinners, just waiting for you to slip up so he can send you to a pool of fire and lava upon death.  Arent you happy you are so much in control of your destiny? Arent you glad That the evil in the world can change if it is so desired, instead of fearing that "gods" worst enemy "satan" is in control of all the bad things taking place?  Doesnt it make you feel good, and inspire you, to learn that you have so much power and are such a great being of consciousness, one that you have never even fathomed before?  It should..