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Dec 31st, 2006 at 7:37pm
 
I don't know much about most of your beliefs here still. I am trying to get myself to read journys out of the body, haven't gotten nerve to read it yet, I have it though.
Believe it or not I fear what I can do. Some of you remember my posting before possibly.
I recently was very ill and while I was ill I started having visions of something that happened to me, like a memory. I was with someone else. But I felt like I fluttered like an angel. In this memory. I can't get over it.
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Reply #1 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:25pm
 
Hello---EGGS
I suppose it depends on which religious belief system you get your information from.  When i was a kid, I was told that the angels were created seperately from us and that we cannot become angels.  Then again, Shirley McLane says that WE are the falling angels that the bible describes.  We are the group of angels who followed Lucifer and decided that we wanted more than the heavenly happiness we already had.  We wanted to explore and expand beyond  the heavenly realm that God had created for us. So , we followed old Lucifer to end up here on earth, for better and for worse, until we reach our ultimate goal of the earthly experience. When we die from the physical, we go to another paradise, never again to be angels.
Then again, another belief is that we all are and will always be angels and we asked to come here to earth to become more that we really are.  I know a lot of earth angels. So I think you are correct in your interpertation of your dream.  Hello Angel!!!
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Reply #2 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:37pm
 
Flying lessons are addictive, eggshellseas, aren't they? It sounds like you'd like to try it again sometime....this is a place you can learn how to do it over and over again if you want.

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Reply #3 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:41pm
 
I believe that Angel is a purely religious term, and serves no purpose for our reality, because our reality is not religion, our reality just is.  Many people label those they enounter from the afterlife as "angels", when chances are it could have been my great great grandfather.  It is just a misconception.  If I was going to describe what an Angel is, I would say it was someone from the afterlife who made it their buisness to help either those still on earth, or those in a sticky situation in the afterlife.  However, this does not make this "angel" any more special than any other being in the afterlife, it is good that they are helping but that does not make them any better or worse.  Basically, asking if you think you could have an angel as a member of your disc is the same as asking if you think you could have a ghost as a member.  They are just labels that are often not even used accurately.  I beleive I have many aspects of my higher self that help others.  However, I dont say, I have angels.  Perhaps if I were a character in the bible I would, but that is not the case.  We need to deal with reality and not fiction.
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Reply #4 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 8:48pm
 
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Flying lessons are addictive, eggshellseas, aren't they? It sounds like you'd like to try it again sometime....this is a place you can learn how to do it over and over again if you want.

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Yes they are addictive, for me I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand
he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time.
To the other person that mentioned lucifer. My belief is that lucifer is not a bad angel as the bible depicts. I think lucifer is more like the all seeing eye. That never meant to leave heaven actually. But is an angel of great light, not that "she" is an eye but she has a job. And when he comes to her, one of the things she does is tell truth.
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Reply #5 - Dec 31st, 2006 at 9:14pm
 
I feel that Spirit (as some people prefer to call it) has something important to share with you, and you are being called on a kind of a vision quest. In quiet meditation you may find the answers you are seeking. There are many, many ways to do it, and no one way is correct.  You may try more than one if you wish. And what I have found is, over time, amazing things may manifest in your outer life to clarify in a beautiful way the answers for which you are seeking. There is something important which needs to reveal itself to you...trust it.

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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 12:14am
 
ESS said: I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand
he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time.
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this is happening to me too. care to share any more details? The problem is just getting the glimpses and scratching the rest of the day. I would reccomend writing it down. I have about 40 such glimpses. I now know who he is in the physical world but knowing this doesn't make you feel any less crazy!

please keep us informed. I may need your help! love, alysia
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 1:13am
 
Nice to have you return to us EggShellSea, I probably got the name backwards. I think its spiritual dslexia.

so you said: My belief is that lucifer is not a bad angel as the bible depicts. I think lucifer is more like the all seeing eye. That never meant to leave heaven actually. But is an angel of great light, not that "she" is an eye but she has a job. And when he comes to her, one of the things she does is tell truth.
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my belief is there are two parts to us: an ego and a higher self.

the ego proclaims to always have the answer. not only for you, but for others.
thats the definition of being selfish to certain degrees more or less until you get somebody with no conscious at all (so they say)
a conscious is the good part that says oh oh, you're in deep kaa kaa now bud.

Lucifer is symbolic of the ego which plunders others and covets.
unfortunately, we all have one.
higher self, the part of you connected to god is the part of us that yearns to complete our intentions for coming and return home, hopefully in one piece, with all our self retrievals having been completed.

Lucifer = fear
god = love

where love is, fear is not. fear cannot survive in the presence of love. there you have your duality world we came to subdue all fear from within, not from without.

love is also the what is called the light because it is all encompassing and therefore cannot have an opposite. when encompassed by this love self realized, there is a lack of sense of existing in a duality, or polarized world.

the mind in the grip of love is in process towards a return to the light. in this process doubts recede to a trickle of what they were previously until no doubt is there at all that you are in this process of returning to what you basically are. love. but of a more pureness.
pureness of intention means no distortions or doubts.

doubts belong to the ego and are a subtle form of fear. the ego is lucifer spoken of as a fallen angel because he fell into the physical and was cast from Eden (symbology)
The ego will always claim to be on the right hand side of god, although god throws the party for the prodigal son, not for Lucifer, who is jealous and wants god to honor only himself.
jealousy is simply fear. there are only 2 emotions: fear or love. fear=lucifer, love = god.
A state of non duality, of doubtlessness, is a restful place. We are all headed there with the relinguishment of ego holdings: Jealousy, war, hatred, separation thoughts, gossip, judgment, all these will fall away. We are in the shift in consciousness and all will be affected. We have much to celebrate.
we are all gods and goddesses with an ego which proclaims this is a lie.

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this stuff above is how I remember what A Course In Miracles said to me. then I had to go and live it to see if it were true. then the lessons came and I learned it was true. It says we are all love in our essence. this is true. and we are all equal beings in the sight of god who has no favorites.  As well when a problem comes and doubt enters of your inability to solve it, you say only this: I am one with god, therefore I cannot be separate from my creator and so this too shall pass. then it snowballs as you come to believe you are love and indeed it is impossible to be separated from love, god.
what you believe is what will come to manifest. you can't lose.

I sent away for an internet ministers certificate, guys, let me practice on ya!

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Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 3:59pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1st, 2007 at 12:14am:
ESS said: I just get over learning about something that happened somewhere to me, then on a new set of memories occur. I don't know what to do with it. Its like someone is giving me glimpses of who I am but they don't want to give it all at once. And its who this person is in my memories that is the hardest to understand
he is a living person in the world, but I have known him somewhere else for a long time.
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this is happening to me too. care to share any more details? The problem is just getting the glimpses and scratching the rest of the day. I would reccomend writing it down. I have about 40 such glimpses. I now know who he is in the physical world but knowing this doesn't make you feel any less crazy!

please keep us informed. I may need your help! love, alysia


Its difficult to describe the details because it is so unbelieveable, I find it hard to believe myself. This person is very well known and has been popping into my life since I was twelve years old at least. He is a very powerful man and is in touch with his higher being very strongly. I believe the band he was once in wrote many songs based on Robert Monroes books.
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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 6:17pm
 
I think its higher self to higher self bleed through ESS. thats how I'm dealing with it for now because I know, as you say, we cannot let ourselves fully believe its real. its feels much more comfortable to not even think about it.

same here...this person walks into my dreams, drops some bomb on me and walks out. I'm always affected after each episode in my daily thought system. if I told anybody  these things they'd just say forget it, its a dream. no big deal. but its always like an aha moment about my thought system when it happens, I change or I learn something, mostly about me, not them.

..this one in my dream is too well known to risk revealing his name also. lol...they'd come after me for sure, the little men in white coats.
sometimes I'm thinking, please no more dreams. let me assimilate. could be a disc thing? like all disc members reuniting? thats the best explanation I can up with. This one is related to Yeshua. also you said since you were 12. this affiliation started for me around age 18 and I'm now 60.

as far as spiritual advice since you and I appear in the same boat here, I would say to trust yourself, that we won't be given more information than we can handle, and that the reason we live in linear time is so we have the time to go as slow or as fast as we want into enlightenment.  perhaps an agreement was formed before incarnation?
this happens a lot. we make agreements or we have intentions for incarnating..its not a chaotic universe, its an orderly one is my belief.

thanks for sharing..I feel much better knowing you're going thru the same thing. love, alysia
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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 6:23pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1st, 2007 at 6:17pm:
I think its higher self to higher self bleed through ESS. thats how I'm dealing with it for now because I know, as you say, we cannot let ourselves fully believe its real. its feels much more comfortable to not even think about it.

same here...this person walks into my dreams, drops some bomb on me and walks out. I'm always affected after each episode in my daily thought system. if I told anybody  these things they'd just say forget it, its a dream. no big deal. but its always like an aha moment about my thought system when it happens, I change or I learn something, mostly about me, not them.

..this one in my dream is too well known to risk revealing his name also. lol...they'd come after me for sure, the little men in white coats.
sometimes I'm thinking, please no more dreams. let me assimilate. could be a disc thing? like all disc members reuniting? thats the best explanation I can up with. This one is related to Yeshua. also you said since you were 12. this affiliation started for me around age 18 and I'm now 60.

as far as spiritual advice since you and I appear in the same boat here, I would say to trust yourself, that we won't be given more information than we can handle, and that the reason we live in linear time is so we have the time to go as slow or as fast as we want into enlightenment.  perhaps an agreement was formed before incarnation?
this happens a lot. we make agreements or we have intentions for incarnating..its not a chaotic universe, its an orderly one is my belief.

thanks for sharing..I feel much better knowing you're going thru the same thing. love, alysia



I'll send you a pm about who my mystery man is and you can tell me yours if you wish. Wink
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ok, I'd really like to know who yours is, but don't know if I'll be able to tell u mine! Wink
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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2007 at 10:08pm
 
LaffingRain wrote on Jan 1st, 2007 at 9:35pm:
ok, I'd really like to know who yours is, but don't know if I'll be able to tell u mine! Wink


I wouldn't be suprised if its not the same guy, really.
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haha! nope. Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2007 at 1:40am
 
THE HIGHER SELF CAN BE ANYTHING IT WONTS TO BE, OR THAT YOU NEED IT TO BE. NOW IF YOU NEED IT TO BE AN ANGEL I'M SURE IT CAN MORPH INTO THAT NO PROBLEMS.
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