dave_a_mbs
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I'm still looking at things as a methodologist. As a socio-cultural problem, it seems that we go forward into what we think we'll get, modified by personal preferences. The same is true of daydreams, so as a methodological problem, we have nothing finite. All statements, from avatars, prophets, or the Gods Themselves (since they are always arguing about the nature of values and truths in their homes on Olympus, Dear Euthyphro), lack any background references against which to judge them. In the end we're stuck with only our own willingness to see it this way or that way.
I personally was struck by the similarities of NDEs, especially when they were unexpected. I really like to see these independent studies publ;ished on someone's site, or put out here in one of the "Miscellaneous" forums. This is great stuff. The statistics from Duke have verified that there is a fraction of variance unexplainable except as ESP. My experiences have been overwhelmingly convincing, both in a positive sense, and occasionally in a highly negative one as well. Because I often practice in Bardo Thodol and related Vajrayana disciplines, I can verify that my experiences are appoximately those traditionally mentioned in Bardo Thjodol and related Buddhist scripture. But I can neither prove their validity, nor suggest that others will have similar experiences. Maybe I simply have vivid dreams.
In fact, I'm still wondering whether we can prove the existence of extended matter over its ideational imagery, since the two are totally covariant, and thus indiscriminable at a superficial level..Thus, I simply choose what to believe because it works for me. If this is true for everyone, then we're back to cultural norms again.
After a lifetime of seeing only black crows, and having the total certainty of their blackness, it opnly takes one white crow to disprove my theory of crows. The same with the spirit world phenomena. This is true even though we can collectively discuss similar experiences in the spiritual realms as we rescue souls, interview the dead, recover prior histories and compare them with facts (eg: George and the Titanic and his possible shipmates) and so on. At some point we move beyond the ability to test and experiment into the world of hearsay and hope.And that means that we might be sampling something far different than it appears. This is also true for the prophets, avatars and so on. Perhaps, in spite of their excellent advice, they too were deluded and their visions of the Infinite no more than what was expected in their culture. Then our dogmatism is a "....Vanity of vanities, saith the Prophet."
I don't mean to dismiss these things, nor argue that in truth they are invalid, but instead, we've gotten into a level in which we can't do much more than gather data and hope that it means something. I'll easily accept anything said after an NDE or OOBE as being totally valid to the actor. That includes Jesus, Swedenborg, Moses or Krishna, just as a start. What is difficult is to say that "this is true", and to establish a dogmatic posture. It isn't epistemically possible. And that fact too was written by an ancient prophet who told us, "Thou shalt not test they God."
So in the season of Solstive festivals of al our sundry faiths, My best wishes for the Season, and Godspeed.
PUL d
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